Is MySQL what I need?

[Brett]

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

[news]

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

I have been doing some stuff on the web with mysql & perl . I have some
programming background and I found it fairly easy to use.

Jay

[bobb]

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

[Brett]

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

[bobb]

I first got turned onto python about 5 years ago... needless to say, I still
suck at it (IMO :) )
If you google groups on python, there's lots of debate on this topic.

What turns me on about it is it's object oriented, logical (for me), and
probably has the strongest programming community period. The gang on the
Zope list and the python list are extremely helpful... They also use tough
love when necessary. ;) (RTFM, for example)

examples of what specifically turned me on are.

1) Get windows wmi information w/ one line of code.
2) start a simple http server (for checking file system stuff) with one line
of code.
3) interfaces to mysql already built... easy to use.
4) zope is built on top of it... modules already exist for what I need...
Interfaces to rdbm's, mail servers, indexing, etc.
5) VERY GOOD error messaging (tracebacks) that point to code and line
problems specifically. no bogus errors(like vb)
6) cross platform (I dev on windows, run prod on solaris and linux and
OSX!!! )
7) Open source (no way am I buying ANOTHER Windows server license).. the MS
stuff is out of the question for me.
(Even though I have an MCSE, in which I got in 10 business days on a $1 bet
:) )
Hope that helps.

bobb

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

[bobb]

I first got turned onto python about 5 years ago... needless to say, I still
suck at it (IMO :) )
If you google groups on python, there's lots of debate on this topic.

What turns me on about it is it's object oriented, logical (for me), and
probably has the strongest programming community period. The gang on the
Zope list and the python list are extremely helpful... They also use tough
love when necessary. ;) (RTFM, for example)

examples of what specifically turned me on are.

1) Get windows wmi information w/ one line of code.
2) start a simple http server (for checking file system stuff) with one line
of code.
3) interfaces to mysql already built... easy to use.
4) zope is built on top of it... modules already exist for what I need...
Interfaces to rdbm's, mail servers, indexing, etc.
5) VERY GOOD error messaging (tracebacks) that point to code and line
problems specifically. no bogus errors(like vb)
6) cross platform (I dev on windows, run prod on solaris and linux and
OSX!!! )
7) Open source (no way am I buying ANOTHER Windows server license).. the MS
stuff is out of the question for me.
(Even though I have an MCSE, in which I got in 10 business days on a $1 bet
:) )
Hope that helps.

bobb

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

[bobb]

Sorry Brett... I replied to myself :)
"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3m***************@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

I first got turned onto python about 5 years ago... needless to say, I still suck at it (IMO :) )
If you google groups on python, there's lots of debate on this topic.

What turns me on about it is it's object oriented, logical (for me), and
probably has the strongest programming community period. The gang on the
Zope list and the python list are extremely helpful... They also use tough
love when necessary. ;) (RTFM, for example)

examples of what specifically turned me on are.

1) Get windows wmi information w/ one line of code.
2) start a simple http server (for checking file system stuff) with one line of code.
3) interfaces to mysql already built... easy to use.
4) zope is built on top of it... modules already exist for what I need...
Interfaces to rdbm's, mail servers, indexing, etc.
5) VERY GOOD error messaging (tracebacks) that point to code and line
problems specifically. no bogus errors(like vb)
6) cross platform (I dev on windows, run prod on solaris and linux and
OSX!!! )
7) Open source (no way am I buying ANOTHER Windows server license).. the MS stuff is out of the question for me.
(Even though I have an MCSE, in which I got in 10 business days on a $1 bet :) )
Hope that helps.

bobb

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...
> I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service. >
> MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> you like it? What are you using for a front end?
>
> I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL, > PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them > for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> SQL Server?
>
> BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?
>
> Thanks,
> Brett

[bobb]

Sorry Brett... I replied to myself :)
"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3m***************@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

I first got turned onto python about 5 years ago... needless to say, I still suck at it (IMO :) )
If you google groups on python, there's lots of debate on this topic.

What turns me on about it is it's object oriented, logical (for me), and
probably has the strongest programming community period. The gang on the
Zope list and the python list are extremely helpful... They also use tough
love when necessary. ;) (RTFM, for example)

examples of what specifically turned me on are.

1) Get windows wmi information w/ one line of code.
2) start a simple http server (for checking file system stuff) with one line of code.
3) interfaces to mysql already built... easy to use.
4) zope is built on top of it... modules already exist for what I need...
Interfaces to rdbm's, mail servers, indexing, etc.
5) VERY GOOD error messaging (tracebacks) that point to code and line
problems specifically. no bogus errors(like vb)
6) cross platform (I dev on windows, run prod on solaris and linux and
OSX!!! )
7) Open source (no way am I buying ANOTHER Windows server license).. the MS stuff is out of the question for me.
(Even though I have an MCSE, in which I got in 10 business days on a $1 bet :) )
Hope that helps.

bobb

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...
> I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service. >
> MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> you like it? What are you using for a front end?
>
> I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL, > PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them > for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> SQL Server?
>
> BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?
>
> Thanks,
> Brett

[bobb]

I first got turned onto python about 5 years ago... needless to say, I still
suck at it (IMO :) )
If you google groups on python, there's lots of debate on this topic.

What turns me on about it is it's object oriented, logical (for me), and
probably has the strongest programming community period. The gang on the
Zope list and the python list are extremely helpful... They also use tough
love when necessary. ;) (RTFM, for example)

examples of what specifically turned me on are.

1) Get windows wmi information w/ one line of code.
2) start a simple http server (for checking file system stuff) with one line
of code.
3) interfaces to mysql already built... easy to use.
4) zope is built on top of it... modules already exist for what I need...
Interfaces to rdbm's, mail servers, indexing, etc.
5) VERY GOOD error messaging (tracebacks) that point to code and line
problems specifically. no bogus errors(like vb)
6) cross platform (I dev on windows, run prod on solaris and linux and
OSX!!! )
7) Open source (no way am I buying ANOTHER Windows server license).. the MS
stuff is out of the question for me.
(Even though I have an MCSE, in which I got in 10 business days on a $1 bet
:) )
Hope that helps.

bobb

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?

Thanks,
Brett

[bobb]

Sorry Brett... I replied to myself :)
"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3m***************@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

I first got turned onto python about 5 years ago... needless to say, I still suck at it (IMO :) )
If you google groups on python, there's lots of debate on this topic.

What turns me on about it is it's object oriented, logical (for me), and
probably has the strongest programming community period. The gang on the
Zope list and the python list are extremely helpful... They also use tough
love when necessary. ;) (RTFM, for example)

examples of what specifically turned me on are.

1) Get windows wmi information w/ one line of code.
2) start a simple http server (for checking file system stuff) with one line of code.
3) interfaces to mysql already built... easy to use.
4) zope is built on top of it... modules already exist for what I need...
Interfaces to rdbm's, mail servers, indexing, etc.
5) VERY GOOD error messaging (tracebacks) that point to code and line
problems specifically. no bogus errors(like vb)
6) cross platform (I dev on windows, run prod on solaris and linux and
OSX!!! )
7) Open source (no way am I buying ANOTHER Windows server license).. the MS stuff is out of the question for me.
(Even though I have an MCSE, in which I got in 10 business days on a $1 bet :) )
Hope that helps.

bobb

"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...

Bobb,

I'm checking out the zope.org and python.org sites. Why use Python
rather than Perl, PHP, C++, ASP (ASP.NET), C# or some similar
scripting language?

Thanks,
Brett

"bobb" <ra*****@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<4N******************@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>.. .

I'm doing zope (zope.org) , python and mysql.
Getting rid of our MS /access/coldfusion/asp stuff eventually.
(hopefully sooner)

bobb
"Brett" <ac*****@cygen.com> wrote in message
news:c0**************************@posting.google.c om...
> I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service. >
> MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> you like it? What are you using for a front end?
>
> I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL, > PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them > for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> SQL Server?
>
> BTW, is this the only programming newsgroup for MySQL?
>
> Thanks,
> Brett