conditional compilation is turned off

[Québec]

Hi every body,

What does that mean?
The following script raises the subject alarm.

<p><a href="javascript:void();"
onClick="mailto:sg*****@cyberus.ca?Subject=BRITTAN Y&nbsp;WORKSHOP">

<img align=left src="britany.gif" width="231" height="40" border=0
alt="BRITTANY WORKSHOP with Sylvio Gagnon" style="text-indent: .2em;
background:ffffff; color:bb5500;">
</a></p>

Jean Pierre Daviau

[Lasse Reichstein Nielsen]

"Québec" <jp**@vidn.ca> writes:

What does that mean?
What? (I.e., don't put an essential part of your message in the subject,
it is confuzing to readers).
The following script raises the subject alarm. <p><a href="javascript:void();"
onClick="mailto:sg*****@cyberus.ca?Subject=BRITTAN Y&nbsp;WORKSHOP">

Apart from using javscript:-URLs at all, which is recommended against,
the href is syntactically incorrect Javascript. The "void" operator is
not a function, it needs an expression after it.

The onclick attribute value should contain javascript, but instead
contains a mailto:-URL (also recommended against, at least don't rely on
the user being able to use it).

Conditional compilation is something IE uses with its scripting. I guess
it is the "@" in the onclick attribute value that triggers the alert.

/L
--
Lasse Reichstein Nielsen - lr*@hotpop.com
DHTML Death Colors: <URL:http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/rasterTriangleDOM.html>
'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine.'

[VK]

The interpereter expects a JavaScript code in the onClick handler.
This mailto address looks like a uniline conditional assignement
x=(condition)?y:z
So it tries to process this assignement and eveidently falls miserably,
this is the source of the error message.

The right way is (you don't need any script here at all):
<a href="mailto:sg*****@cyberus.ca?subject=BRITTANY%2 0WORKSHOP">Send
e-mail</a>

It's very important to remember to URLEncode (escape) text for subject
and body.
In the particular all spaces have to be replaced by %20 and all line
breaks by %0D%0A

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

VK wrote:

The right way is (you don't need any script here at all):
<a href="mailto:sg*****@cyberus.ca?subject=BRITTANY%2 0WORKSHOP">Send
e-mail</a>

And it is to be noted that such hyperlinks depend on an e-mail client
configured for the HTTP user agent that *understands* `mailto:' URIs,
which excludes many visitors using only web interfaces for their e-mail.
One should therefore use a feedback form utilizing a server-side formmailer
application where possible. BTW, an easily configurable and (for
non-commercial use) free formmailer that does not require CGI support
for your webspace, can be found at http://formmailer.com/
PointedEars

[VK]

Mailto is an official protocol accepted and documented by 3W years and
years ago.
If some UserAgents still didn't implement it, it's their problem.
~97% did, and it's mighty good for Web.
(Some browsers still cannot handle properly CSS, but it's not a reason
to do not use styles at all).

Yes, mailto has its defaults, the main is that it's easy to grab by
spammers.

Still it gives an opportunity to easy and quickly generate adjusted
e-mail messages without learning server-side scripting, getting access
to this scripting etc.
It's a very helpful tool for beginners.

[Eric Bohlman]

"VK" <sc**********@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:3f***********************@news.freenet.de:

Mailto is an official protocol accepted and documented by 3W years and
years ago.
If some UserAgents still didn't implement it, it's their problem.
~97% did, and it's mighty good for Web.
(Some browsers still cannot handle properly CSS, but it's not a reason
to do not use styles at all).

You've missed the point. The big problem isn't that *browsers* don't
understand it (the majority of them do), but that even if the browser
understands it, it works only if the user's system has a *mail* user agent
configured, which will *not* be the case if

1) The user's email provider works by a purely Web interface rather than
SMTP or

2) The user is running on a shared-access machine such as a library
terminal or a computer in an Internet cafe (there are entire countries
where the latter is how the vast majority of Internet users access the
net).

[HikksNotAtHome]

In article <Xn*******************************@130.133.1.4>, Eric Bohlman
<eb******@earthlink.net> writes:

<-snip->

You've missed the point. The big problem isn't that *browsers* don't
understand it (the majority of them do), but that even if the browser
understands it, it works only if the user's system has a *mail* user agent
configured, which will *not* be the case if

1) The user's email provider works by a purely Web interface rather than
SMTP or

2) The user is running on a shared-access machine such as a library
terminal or a computer in an Internet cafe (there are entire countries
where the latter is how the vast majority of Internet users access the
net).

And a 3rd case:

3) The user has a browser that does not have an email program associated to
handle mailto: Of the 17 or so browsers that I have, only one (the AOL
browser), has an email program associated with it. Any other browser, it
prompts me to install its self-associated email program (which I never do - I
have an email program of choice) so that the authors unreliable mailto: works
for the page.
--
Randy

[Québec]

[preceding]
YES
so I added by pressing this button or by writing to: sg*****@cyberus.ca
================
If I write
alert((a == sg*****@cyberus.ca)?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

I get conditionnal compilation is turned off

If I write without the @
alert((a == sgagnoncyberus.ca)?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

I get sgagnoncyberus.ca is undefined

alert((a == 'sgagnoncyberus.ca' )?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Québec wrote:

[preceding]
YES
?

<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
so I added by pressing this button or by writing to: sg*****@cyberus.ca
?
================
If I write
alert((a == sg*****@cyberus.ca)?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP'); ^[1] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^[2]

[1] What is `a'?

[2] The mail address must be a string literal,
enclose it in single or double quotes.

[3] What should the above code achieve?
I get conditionnal compilation is turned off
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...statements.asp
If I write without the @
The `@' is not the point, the type of the operand of `==' is.
alert((a == sgagnoncyberus.ca)?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

I get sgagnoncyberus.ca is undefined
Of course, see [2].
alert((a == 'sgagnoncyberus.ca' )?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

FWIW, that is at least syntactically correct and you can re-include
the `@' here.

BTW, I doubt that you have fully understood what was written about
the use of `mailto:'.
PointedEars

[Québec]

> Québec wrote:

[preceding]
YES

I say ok to what was written about browsers in the thread.

If I write
alert((a == sg*****@cyberus.ca)?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

I get conditionnal compilation is turned off

If I write without the @
alert((a == sgagnoncyberus.ca)?'subject':'BRITTANY WORKSHOP');

I get sgagnoncyberus.ca is undefined The var a = ""
I know I should have quoted the address.
So. The @ is what turns on the "conditionnal compilation is turned off"
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...-us/jscript7/h

tml/jsconconditionalcompilationstatements.asp
Aren't we on a javascript newsgroup?

I am sure I mixed you up a bit more. It is a bad talent I have to mix up
everybody and especially myself. :-)
Thank you very much.

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Québec wrote:

So. The @ is what turns on the "conditionnal compilation is turned off"

As you can read in the linked documentation, `@' is part of statements for
conditional compilation in JScript, but you need to enable that first. If
you do not and use ´@' *outside* of String/RegExp literals followed by a
alphabetic character anyway, the JScript engine assumes that you are using
such a statement and you get that error message. Tested with IE 6.0 SP-1
on Win2k.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...-us/jscript7/h

tml/jsconconditionalcompilationstatements.asp
Aren't we on a javascript newsgroup?

We are. JavaScript is Netscape's implementation of ECMAScript, and JScript
is Microsoft's implementation of ECMAScript used in Internet Explorer which
has some special features, as you have seen.
PointedEars