Re: AJAX logging tools?

[Phil]

David Mark wrote:

For a random page, use Firebug, Visual Studio, Opera's console, etc.
Obfuscation doesn't really enter into it.

I don't have access to VS (can you say "cheapskate"?), and neither
Firebug nor Opera give me enough info to know what's going on - or maybe
I'm just lousy at using them. Got anything else?

Before stealing (er studying) the code, you might want to consider the
source. Do you really want to mimic their design?

Absolutely not! I want to improve upon it (á la Greasemonkey, or maybe
an XPI) - but first I have to understand it.

What if the author is a lunatic?

Based on what I've seen so far, I'm already convinced that he is. ;-)

[David Mark]

On Aug 1, 5:33 pm, Phil <.@.wrote:

David Mark wrote:

For a random page, use Firebug, Visual Studio, Opera's console, etc.
Obfuscation doesn't really enter into it.

I don't have access to VS (can you say "cheapskate"?), and neither
Firebug nor Opera give me enough info to know what's going on - or maybe
I'm just lousy at using them. Got anything else?

It sounds like you are lousy at using them.

>

Before stealing (er studying) the code, you might want to consider the
source. Do you really want to mimic their design?

Absolutely not! I want to improve upon it (á la Greasemonkey, or maybe
an XPI) - but first I have to understand it.

Do you have to understand how their design works?

>

What if the author is a lunatic?

Based on what I've seen so far, I'm already convinced that he is. ;-)

All the more reason to ignore whatever he did.

[Christoph Boget]

>I don't have access to VS (can you say "cheapskate"?), and neither

>Firebug nor Opera give me enough info to know what's going on - or maybe
I'm just lousy at using them. Got anything else?

It sounds like you are lousy at using them.

Except that Firebug doesn't provide backtrace functionality, which is what
it sounds like the OP is looking for. It would be a even more of a godsend
if it did, though. :)

thnx,
Christoph

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Christoph Boget wrote:

>>I don't have access to VS (can you say "cheapskate"?), and neither
Firebug nor Opera give me enough info to know what's going on - or
maybe I'm just lousy at using them. Got anything else?

It sounds like you are lousy at using them.

Except that Firebug doesn't provide backtrace functionality,

If you mean the synonym of stack trace: Yes, it does. Actually, JavaScript
provides this feature all by itself already, with the `stack' string
property of Error objects. But Firebug allows you to click the item in the
displayed stack trace and jump to the corresponding function.

which is what it sounds like the OP is looking for. It would be a even
more of a godsend if it did, though. :)

It is :)
PointedEars
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