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Re: Making Site Opaque -- This Strategy Feasible?


Yeah, but that requires installing the Flash plug-in.

If it's otherwise possible -- which it seems to be -- CSS/JavaScript
is more powerful than I'd thought!
Anyway, it's a technical question, not an "artistic" one....

On Apr 26, 3:35 pm, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@central.netwrote:
>

This kind of nonsense is for Flash...

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIOhttp://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Jun 27 '08 #1
12 1378
Prisoner at War wrote:
Yeah, but that requires installing the Flash plug-in.

If it's otherwise possible -- which it seems to be -- CSS/JavaScript
is more powerful than I'd thought!
Anyway, it's a technical question, not an "artistic" one....
What you want is old MS's proprietary fade transitions filter. When
DHTML was the current "Web2.0" it was sort of popular. It would require
JavaScript and be very messy to get it to work on more that one browser.
... More work that I would be willing to invest. Again, this "effect" is
more in Flash's domain.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Jun 27 '08 #2
VK
On Apr 26, 11:40 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yeah, but that requires installing the Flash plug-in.

If it's otherwise possible -- which it seems to be -- CSS/JavaScript
is more powerful than I'd thought!

Anyway, it's a technical question, not an "artistic" one....
Technically it is perfectly cross-browser possible: but to write a
stay alone working sample would require an hour of coding and cross-
browser testing. I just don't have this spare time in my hand - though
other may do or someone may have a working snippet ready. You may just
take subModal script and re-adjust it for your needs if you can:
http://www.subimage.com/dhtml/subModal/
Jun 27 '08 #3
On Apr 26, 3:53 pm, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@central.netwrote:
>

What you want is old MS's proprietary fade transitions filter. When
DHTML was the current "Web2.0" it was sort of popular. It would require
JavaScript and be very messy to get it to work on more that one browser.
.. More work that I would be willing to invest. Again, this "effect" is
more in Flash's domain.
Yeah, but Flash requires a plug-in...besides, I'm still struggling
with CSS/JavaScript! ^_^

I know these effects sound silly, but I've got a legitimate use for
them. And, mostly, it's an educational thing: even if I didn't have a
good use for them it's nice to know what's possible. Part of my
problem right now is that I don't even know the "scope" and "depth" of
what's possible between CSS and JavaScript...I've come across sites
that demonstrate neat tricks, but none really teach -- at best, they
provide a brief outline for an already knowledgeable reader....

I've bought the book "DOM Scripting"...I hope that will answer many
questions....
--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIOhttp://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Jun 27 '08 #4
On Apr 26, 5:14 pm, VK <schools_r...@yahoo.comwrote:
>

Technically it is perfectly cross-browser possible: but to write a
stay alone working sample would require an hour of coding and cross-
browser testing. I just don't have this spare time in my hand - though
other may do or someone may have a working snippet ready. You may just
take subModal script and re-adjust it for your needs if you can:http://www.subimage.com/dhtml/subModal/

Hey, cool!! I have **no idea what it is** but it looks fun! 8-)

Thanks, I hope I can understand all this stuff soon...can you tell me,
how did you (how did all of you people) learn this stuff??? I mean,
I'm reading many different books and trying to integrate different
concepts, but so far I've yet to come up with any original scripts of
my own...what I'm somewhat successful at is "hacking" others' scripts
to my own uses...but I'd like to be able to conceive of something and
know how to go about making it so, without having to research others'
similar implementations!

So how did you all learn this stuff?? Is it just a matter of time??
Ack, I'm spending so much time dealing with site "mechanics" I've
stopped creating actual content altogether! =(

But at least this diversion is quite fun! =) Even if often in a very
frustrating way, like a hard-to-get woman! =\
Jun 27 '08 #5
Playing around : tested in Safari, Opera and FireFox. Simplified
version that behaves more properly when/if the window is resized.

<html>
<head>
<title>Demo</title>
<style type="text/css">
html {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
padding: 0px 0px;
background-color: #DCDCDC;
}

body {
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 0.5em 2em;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left: thin solid black;
border-right: thin solid black;
}

p {
font: 1em Georgia, serif;
line-height: 1.4;
}

div#cover {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
background-color: black;
opacity: 0.6;
z-index: 1001;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

div#popup {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
z-index: 1002;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
border: medium double black;
padding: 10px 10px;
background-color: white;
}

div#popup p {
font: normal 0.8em Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
text-align: center;
}
</style>

<script>

function $ (p) {
return document.getElementById(p);
};
function lockScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'visible';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'visible';
return false;
};
function releaseScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'hidden';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'hidden';
};

</script>

</head>
<body>
<div id="cover"></div>
<div id="popup">
<p>Lorem Ipsum rulez!</p>
<p><button type="button" onclick="releaseScreen()">Close</button>
</div>
<a href="noscript.html" onclick="return lockScreen()">Apply settings</
a>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quisque eu est. Morbi laoreet, diam at interdum pharetra,
tellus pede posuere massa, fermentum scelerisque enim elit
in felis. Donec auctor, libero non rhoncus mattis, dui sapien
faucibus quam, ut pulvinar elit est ac tortor. Quisque molestie.
Donec eu lorem. Integer semper suscipit ipsum. Phasellus et
justo sed dolor blandit lobortis. Morbi a urna eu dolor bibendum
fermentum. Phasellus adipiscing blandit nisi. Aenean urna est,
adipiscing eu, pellentesque eget, egestas sit amet, nibh.
Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices
posuere cubilia Curae; Curabitur id mauris non elit consectetuer
semper. Nam nec nunc. Nulla facilisi. Suspendisse nec nibh.
Cras vitae felis.</p>
<script>
//Center the popup when/if the window is resized.
window.onresize = window.onload = function () {
var e = $('popup'), d = document.documentElement;
e.style.left = ((d.clientWidth - e.offsetWidth)/2) + 'px';
e.style.top = ((d.clientHeight - e.offsetHeight)/2) + 'px';
};
</script>
</body>
</html>
Jun 27 '08 #6
<html>
<head>
<title>Demo</title>
<style type="text/css">
html {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
padding: 0px 0px;
background-color: #DCDCDC;
}

body {
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 0.5em 2em;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left: thin solid black;
border-right: thin solid black;
}

p {
font: 1em Georgia, serif;
line-height: 1.4;
}

div#cover {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
background-color: black;
opacity: 0.6;
z-index: 1001;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

div#popup {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
z-index: 1002;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
border: medium double black;
padding: 10px 10px;
background-color: white;
}

div#popup p {
font: normal 0.8em Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
text-align: center;
}
</style>

<script>
//Playing around : tested in Safari, Opera and FireFox.
//Simplified version that behaves better when/if the window is
resized.

function $ (p) {
return document.getElementById(p);
};
function lockScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'visible';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'visible';
return false;
};
function releaseScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'hidden';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'hidden';
};

//Center the popup when/if the window is resized.
window.onresize = window.onload = function () {
var e = $('popup'), d = document.documentElement;
e.style.left = ((d.clientWidth - e.offsetWidth)/2) + 'px';
e.style.top = ((d.clientHeight - e.offsetHeight)/2) + 'px';
};

</script>

</head>
<body>
<div id="cover"></div>
<div id="popup">
<p>Lorem Ipsum rulez!</p>
<p><button type="button" onclick="releaseScreen()">Close</button>
</div>
<a href="noscript.html" onclick="return lockScreen()">Click to do it !
</a>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quisque eu est. Morbi laoreet, diam at interdum pharetra,
tellus pede posuere massa, fermentum scelerisque enim elit
in felis. Donec auctor, libero non rhoncus mattis, dui sapien
faucibus quam, ut pulvinar elit est ac tortor. Quisque molestie.
Donec eu lorem. Integer semper suscipit ipsum. Phasellus et
justo sed dolor blandit lobortis. Morbi a urna eu dolor bibendum
fermentum. Phasellus adipiscing blandit nisi. Aenean urna est,
adipiscing eu, pellentesque eget, egestas sit amet, nibh.
Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices
posuere cubilia Curae; Curabitur id mauris non elit consectetuer
semper. Nam nec nunc. Nulla facilisi. Suspendisse nec nibh.
Cras vitae felis.</p>
</body>
</html>
Jun 27 '08 #7
Version 2 fades in/out... :-)
Not for IE. Oh My !
Safari, FireFox & Opera, ok.

@Prisoner at War : a friendly advice :
if you aren't doing so already :
Use FireFox *2* + FireBug for debugging.
It's handy as a learning tool, as well.
<html>
<head>
<title>untitled</title>
<meta name="generator" content="TextMate http://macromates.com/">
<meta name="author" content="Jorge Chamorro Bieling">
<!-- Date: 2008-05-02 -->

<title>Demo</title>

<style type="text/css">
html {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
padding: 0px 0px;
background-color: #DCDCDC;
}

body {
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 0.5em 2em;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left: thin solid black;
border-right: thin solid black;
}

p {
font: 1em Georgia, serif;
line-height: 1.4;
}

div#cover {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
background-color: black;
opacity: 0.6;
z-index: 1001;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

div#popup {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
z-index: 1002;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
border: medium double black;
padding: 10px 10px;
background-color: white;
}

div#popup p {
font: normal 0.8em Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
text-align: center;
}
</style>

<script>

function $ (p) {
return document.getElementById(p);
};

function show (pID, pVisible, pTargetOpacity) {
var kFaderSteps = 15,
kFadermS = 500/kFaderSteps, //Half a second
e = $(pID),
step;

if (pVisible) {
if (e.style.visibility === 'visible') { return; }
e.style.opacity = 0;
e.style.visibility = 'visible';
step = pTargetOpacity/kFaderSteps;
(e.fader=function () {
if (e.fader !== arguments.callee) { return; }
var currentOpacity = +e.style.opacity;
if (( currentOpacity += step ) >= pTargetOpacity ) {
currentOpacity = pTargetOpacity;
e.fader = undefined;
} else { setTimeout(e.fader, kFadermS); }
e.style.opacity = currentOpacity;
})();
} else {
//Will always fade to opacity=0.0;
if (e.style.visibility === 'hidden') { return; }
step = e.style.opacity/kFaderSteps;
(e.fader=function () {
if (e.fader !== arguments.callee) { return; }
var currentOpacity = +e.style.opacity;
if (( currentOpacity -= step ) <= 0.0 ) {
currentOpacity = 0.0;
e.style.visibility = 'hidden';
e.fader = undefined;
} else { setTimeout(e.fader, kFadermS); }
e.style.opacity = currentOpacity;
})();
}
};

function lockScreen() {
show('cover', true, 0.6);
show('popup', true, 1.0);
return false;
};

function releaseScreen() {
show('cover', false);
show('popup', false);
};

//Center the popup when/if the window is resized.
window.onresize = window.onload = function () {
var e = $('popup'), d = document.documentElement;
e.style.left = ((d.clientWidth - e.offsetWidth)/2) + 'px';
e.style.top = ((d.clientHeight - e.offsetHeight)/2) + 'px';
};

</script>

</head>
<body>
<div id="cover"></div>
<div id="popup">
<p>Lorem Ipsum rulez!</p>
<p><button type="button" onclick="releaseScreen()">Close</button>
</div>
<a href="noscript.html" onclick="return lockScreen()">Click to do it !
</a>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quisque eu est. Morbi laoreet, diam at interdum pharetra,
tellus pede posuere massa, fermentum scelerisque enim elit
in felis. Donec auctor, libero non rhoncus mattis, dui sapien
faucibus quam, ut pulvinar elit est ac tortor. Quisque molestie.
Donec eu lorem. Integer semper suscipit ipsum. Phasellus et
justo sed dolor blandit lobortis. Morbi a urna eu dolor bibendum
fermentum. Phasellus adipiscing blandit nisi. Aenean urna est,
adipiscing eu, pellentesque eget, egestas sit amet, nibh.
Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices
posuere cubilia Curae; Curabitur id mauris non elit consectetuer
semper. Nam nec nunc. Nulla facilisi. Suspendisse nec nibh.
Cras vitae felis.</p>
</body>
</html>
Jun 27 '08 #8
<html>
<head>
<title>Demo</title>
<style type="text/css">
html {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
padding: 0px 0px;
background-color: #DCDCDC;
}

body {
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 0.5em 2em;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left: thin solid black;
border-right: thin solid black;
}

p {
font: 1em Georgia, serif;
line-height: 1.4;
}

div#cover {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
background-color: black;
opacity: 0.6;
z-index: 1001;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

div#popup {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
z-index: 1002;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
border: medium double black;
padding: 10px 10px;
background-color: white;
}

div#popup p {
font: normal 0.8em Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
text-align: center;
}

</style>
<script>
/*
Playing around : tested in Safari, Opera and FireFox.
Simplified version that behaves better when/if the window is
resized.
*/
function $ (p) {
return document.getElementById(p);
};

function lockScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'visible';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'visible';
return false;
};

function releaseScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'hidden';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'hidden';
};

//Center the popup when/if the window is resized.
window.onresize = window.onload = function () {
var e = $('popup'), d = document.documentElement;
e.style.left = ((d.clientWidth - e.offsetWidth)/2) + 'px';
e.style.top = ((d.clientHeight - e.offsetHeight)/2) + 'px';
};
</script>
</head>
<body>
<div id="cover"></div>
<div id="popup">
<p>Lorem Ipsum rulez!</p>
<p><button type="button" onclick="releaseScreen()">Close</
button>
</div>
<a href="noscript.html" onclick="return lockScreen()">Click to do
it !
</a>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quisque eu est. Morbi laoreet, diam at interdum pharetra,
tellus pede posuere massa, fermentum scelerisque enim elit
in felis. Donec auctor, libero non rhoncus mattis, dui sapien
faucibus quam, ut pulvinar elit est ac tortor. Quisque molestie.
Donec eu lorem. Integer semper suscipit ipsum. Phasellus et
justo sed dolor blandit lobortis. Morbi a urna eu dolor bibendum
fermentum. Phasellus adipiscing blandit nisi. Aenean urna est,
adipiscing eu, pellentesque eget, egestas sit amet, nibh.
Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices
posuere cubilia Curae; Curabitur id mauris non elit consectetuer
semper. Nam nec nunc. Nulla facilisi. Suspendisse nec nibh.
Cras vitae felis.</p>
</body>
</html>
Jun 27 '08 #9

/*
Playing around : tested in Safari, Opera and FireFox.
Simplified version that behaves better when/if the window is
resized.
*/
<html>
<head>
<title>Demo</title>
<style type="text/css">
html {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
padding: 0px 0px;
background-color: #DCDCDC;
}

body {
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 0.5em 2em;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left: thin solid black;
border-right: thin solid black;
}

p {
font: 1em Georgia, serif;
line-height: 1.4;
}

div#cover {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
background-color: black;
opacity: 0.6;
z-index: 1001;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

div#popup {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
z-index: 1002;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
border: medium double black;
padding: 10px 10px;
background-color: white;
}

div#popup p {
font: normal 0.8em Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
text-align: center;
}

</style>
<script>

function $ (p) {
return document.getElementById(p);
};

function lockScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'visible';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'visible';
return false;
};

function releaseScreen() {
$('cover').style.visibility = 'hidden';
$('popup').style.visibility = 'hidden';
};

//Center the popup when/if the window is resized.
window.onresize = window.onload = function () {
var e = $('popup'), d = document.documentElement;
e.style.left = ((d.clientWidth - e.offsetWidth)/2) + 'px';
e.style.top = ((d.clientHeight - e.offsetHeight)/2) + 'px';
};
</script>
</head>
<body>
<div id="cover"></div>
<div id="popup">
<p>Lorem Ipsum rulez!</p>
<p><button type="button" onclick="releaseScreen()">Close</
button>
</div>
<a href="noscript.html" onclick="return lockScreen()">Click to do
it !
</a>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quisque eu est. Morbi laoreet, diam at interdum pharetra,
tellus pede posuere massa, fermentum scelerisque enim elit
in felis. Donec auctor, libero non rhoncus mattis, dui sapien
faucibus quam, ut pulvinar elit est ac tortor. Quisque molestie.
Donec eu lorem. Integer semper suscipit ipsum. Phasellus et
justo sed dolor blandit lobortis. Morbi a urna eu dolor bibendum
fermentum. Phasellus adipiscing blandit nisi. Aenean urna est,
adipiscing eu, pellentesque eget, egestas sit amet, nibh.
Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices
posuere cubilia Curae; Curabitur id mauris non elit consectetuer
semper. Nam nec nunc. Nulla facilisi. Suspendisse nec nibh.
Cras vitae felis.</p>
</body>
</html>
Jun 27 '08 #10
Version 2 fades in/out... :-)
Not for IE. Oh My !
Safari, FireFox & Opera, ok.

@Prisoner at War : a friendly advice :
if you aren't doing so already :
Use FireFox *2* + FireBug for debugging.
It's handy as a learning tool, as well.

<html>
<head>
<title>untitled</title>
<meta name="generator" content="TextMate http://macromates.com/">
<meta name="author" content="Jorge Chamorro Bieling">
<!-- Date: 2008-05-02 -->

<title>Demo</title>

<style type="text/css">
html {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
padding: 0px 0px;
background-color: #DCDCDC;
}

body {
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 0.5em 2em;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left: thin solid black;
border-right: thin solid black;
}

p {
font: 1em Georgia, serif;
line-height: 1.4;
}

div#cover {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
background-color: black;
opacity: 0.6;
z-index: 1001;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

div#popup {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
z-index: 1002;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
border: medium double black;
padding: 10px 10px;
background-color: white;
}

div#popup p {
font: normal 0.8em Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
text-align: center;
}
</style>

<script>

function $ (p) {
return document.getElementById(p);
};

function lockScreen() {
show('cover', true, 0.6);
show('popup', true, 1.0);
return false;
};

function releaseScreen() {
show('cover', false);
show('popup', false);
};

/*
Center the popup when/if the window is resized
*/
window.onresize = window.onload = function () {
var e = $('popup'), d = document.documentElement;
e.style.left = ((d.clientWidth - e.offsetWidth)/2) + 'px';
e.style.top = ((d.clientHeight - e.offsetHeight)/2) + 'px';
};

function show (pID, pVisible, pTargetOpacity) {
var kFaderSteps = 20,
kFadermS = 500/kFaderSteps, //Half a second
e = $(pID),
step;

if (pVisible) {
if (e.style.visibility === 'visible') { return; }
e.style.opacity = 0;
e.style.visibility = 'visible';
step = pTargetOpacity/kFaderSteps;
(e.fader=function () {
if (e.fader !== arguments.callee) { return; }
var currentOpacity = +e.style.opacity;
if (( currentOpacity += step ) >= pTargetOpacity ) {
currentOpacity = pTargetOpacity;
e.fader = undefined;
} else { setTimeout(e.fader, kFadermS); }
e.style.opacity = currentOpacity;
})();
} else {
//Will always fade to opacity=0.0;
if (e.style.visibility === 'hidden') { return; }
step = e.style.opacity/kFaderSteps;
(e.fader=function () {
if (e.fader !== arguments.callee) { return; }
var currentOpacity = +e.style.opacity;
if (( currentOpacity -= step ) <= 0.0 ) {
currentOpacity = 0.0;
e.style.visibility = 'hidden';
e.fader = undefined;
} else { setTimeout(e.fader, kFadermS); }
e.style.opacity = currentOpacity;
})();
}
};

</script>

</head>
<body>
<div id="cover"></div>
<div id="popup">
<p>Lorem Ipsum rulez!</p>
<p><button type="button" onclick="releaseScreen()">Close</button>
</div>
<a href="noscript.html" onclick="return lockScreen()">Click to do it !
</a>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quisque eu est. Morbi laoreet, diam at interdum pharetra,
tellus pede posuere massa, fermentum scelerisque enim elit
in felis. Donec auctor, libero non rhoncus mattis, dui sapien
faucibus quam, ut pulvinar elit est ac tortor. Quisque molestie.
Donec eu lorem. Integer semper suscipit ipsum. Phasellus et
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Jun 27 '08 #11
VK
On May 2, 6:41 pm, Jorge <jo...@jorgechamorro.comwrote:
Version 2 fades in/out... :-)
Not for IE. Oh My !
Safari, FireFox & Opera, ok.
Cool. I just would like to keep it as a learner's code as well, not
just a library - though it will be fully usable as it is.

This way I'd like to avoid "squeeze-script" to keep the algorithm
steps as obvious as possible. So without (wherever doable) anonymous
function expressions, nested functions, closures and stuff.

The final result - if reached - will also be free under the MIT
Licence.

Are you OK with it? I'll take a look around what can universally do
with the scrolling issues.
Jun 27 '08 #12
On May 2, 8:50*pm, VK <schools_r...@yahoo.comwrote:
Are you OK with it? I'll take a look around what can universally do
with *the scrolling issues.
Oh, my... yes, scrolling happens as well... !

Who writes a handler ? ...and posts it ? :-)

--Jorge.
Jun 27 '08 #13

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