Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??

[Gabriel]

Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
visit http://groups.google.com/group/knutDN ,we hope you to enjoy us!

Regrads,
Team Knut.

[Xu, Qian]

Gabriel wrote:

Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
visit http://groups.google.com/group/knutDN ,we hope you to enjoy us!

Regrads,
Team Knut.

great idea ^^)

But, first could you please explain what are weakness of those existing
JSLibraries (JQuery, Prototype, etc.)?

Second would you intend to create a back-end library or a front-end library?

--
Xu, Qian (stanleyxu)

[Gregor Kofler]

Xu, Qian meinte:

Gabriel wrote:

>Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
visit http://groups.google.com/group/knutDN ,we hope you to enjoy us!

Regrads,
Team Knut.

great idea ^^)

Definitely. Since there are so few JS libraries out there...

But, first could you please explain what are weakness of those existing
JSLibraries (JQuery, Prototype, etc.)?

Never read this newsgroup before, right?

Gregor
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[Xu, Qian]

Gregor Kofler wrote:

Definitely. Since there are so few JS libraries out there...

As you described "there are so few /well developed/ libraries out
there...". My question is that:
(a) shall we create a new library/framework with a brand new concept or
(b) just mash up all good features from existing libraries without
shortcomings?
Gregor Kofler wrote:

Xu, Qian meinte:

>But, first could you please explain what are weakness of those
existing JSLibraries (JQuery, Prototype, etc.)?

Never read this newsgroup before, right?

Yes, I just come from Mars. I know nothing about the weakness of those
existing libraries. So could you please figure out something really
valuable, if possible?

--
Xu, Qian (stanleyxu)
http://stanleyxu2005.blogspot.com/

[Joost Diepenmaat]

Gabriel <le*****@gmail.comwrites:

Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
visit http://groups.google.com/group/knutDN ,we hope you to enjoy us!

Regrads,
Team Knut.

Hello Team Knut.

What is your jslibrary going to do? There isn't exactly much more detail
on that site as there is in your message here.

Do you already have some code ready or are you trying to get a whole
bunch of coders together and *then* make them agree on what they want to
do?

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Joost Diepenmaat | blog: http://joost.zeekat.nl/ | work: http://zeekat.nl/

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Xu, Qian <no******@microsoft.comwrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The From header you provided is invalid, there is no such mailbox. That
domain does not belong to you; you are not authorized to use it without
explicit permission from its owner (Microsoft Corporation).

And I think it is also particularly in violation with the User Policy of
your service provider, the computing center of Ilmenau Technical University,
my previous alma mater. You are well-advised to change it.
PointedEars

[Xu, Qian]

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Xu, Qian <no******@microsoft.comwrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The From header you provided is invalid, there is no such mailbox. That
domain does not belong to you; you are not authorized to use it without
explicit permission from its owner (Microsoft Corporation).

And I think it is also particularly in violation with the User Policy of
your service provider, the computing center of Ilmenau Technical University,
my previous alma mater. You are well-advised to change it.
PointedEars

thanks for your friendly remind (again)

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Best regards
Xu, Qian (stanleyxu)
http://stanleyxu2005.blogspot.com/

[dhtml]

On Mar 30, 10:29 pm, Gabriel <[e-mail]:

Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
visithttp://groups.google.com/group/knutDN,we hope you to enjoy us!

I've made one.

http://dhtmlkitchen.com/ape/

Garrett

Regrads,
Team Knut.

[RobG]

On Mar 31, 3:29 pm, Gabriel <[e-mail]:

Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
visithttp://groups.google.com/group/knutDN,we hope you to enjoy us!

Do a search on this group for "code worth recommending".

<URL:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/co...rch+this+group

>

--
Rob

[Jeff North]

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:53:36 +0200, in comp.lang.javascript Gregor
Kofler <us****@gregorkofler.at>
<zN************@nntpserver.swip.netwrote:

>| Xu, Qian meinte:
| Gabriel wrote:
| >Hi anybody intested in developing JSLibrary by yourslef??The project
| >"Knut" has risen up,intend to building a new JSLibrary,more detail
| >visit http://groups.google.com/group/knutDN ,we hope you to enjoy us!
| >>
| >Regrads,
| >Team Knut.
| >
| great idea ^^)
|
| Definitely. Since there are so few JS libraries out there...
|
| But, first could you please explain what are weakness of those existing
| JSLibraries (JQuery, Prototype, etc.)?
|
| Never read this newsgroup before, right?

It's always useful to have other resources :-)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/416891/Jav...brary-Overview

http://google.com/trends?q=prototype...ate=all&sort=0
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[beegee]

On Apr 1, 5:34*am, Jeff North <[e-mail]:

It's always useful to have other resources :-)http://www.scribd.com/doc/416891/Jav...brary-Overview

You know, I hate to add fuel to this old fire but this link is
incredibly specious. For one, it's a powerpoint comparing js
libraries by the author of one of the libraries! Danger, danger! Then
he goes on to make an entire presentation of really nothing more than
subjective claims (even the usage graphs are suspect).

I won't go into details too much but the claim that really got my goat
was: YUI lacks support for DOM querying and DOM manipulation. Having
just had to fix someone else's DOM manipulation through jQuery I can
state absolutely that what jQuery and prototype support is language
obfuscation. It has been an unbelievably nasty experience and I can't
wait to get back to YUI, it's readable libary code and the readable
code I and others create with it.

These libs seem, for the most part, intellectual scams and I find the
biggest supporters of them aren't developers, but managers. I have
slowly come to the conclusion that as cranky as the folks around this
group are, they are correct about third party libraries. You cannot
expect to have well-written, safe libraries in a typeless, dynamic,
and namespace-less language unless they are extremely transparent like
YUI. Even then, issues like download and render speed crop up.
Write it yourself!

Bob

[dhtml]

On Apr 1, 6:46*am, beegee <[e-mail]:

On Apr 1, 5:34*am, Jeff North <[e-mail]:

>
These libs seem, for the most part, intellectual scams and I find the
biggest supporters of them aren't developers, but managers. *I have
slowly come to the conclusion that as cranky as the folks around this
group are, they are correct about third party libraries. *You cannot
expect to have well-written, safe libraries in a typeless, dynamic,
and namespace-less language unless they are extremely transparent like
YUI. *Even then, issues like download and render speed crop up.
Write it yourself!

Transparency - good point. The library should be transparent. Cohesive
objects. Methods that follow their signature. The syntax should be
transparent, too. I never liked libraries that changed the way I write
JavaScript. I use the library -- not the other way around!

Simple methods that have fewer code paths are easier to test, too.

Bob