Other scripting languages?

[jim]

I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,
IE and Opera or are there others?

The scripting that I am refering to is scripting that will show in the
user's browser when you "view source" - not scripting languages that run on
the server.

Thanks!

jim

[VK]

On Mar 30, 1:39 pm, "jim" <[e-mail]:

I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,
IE and Opera or are there others?

Yes, it is the only client-side scripting language that is supported
by default (unless explicetly disabled) by all modern browsers.

Internet Explorer also supports VBScript but no other browser does.

[VK]

On Mar 30, 2:12 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <[e-mail]>
wrote:

VK wrote:

On Mar 30, 1:39 pm, "jim" <[e-mail]:

I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,
IE and Opera or are there others?

Yes, it is the only client-side scripting language that is supported
by default [...]

Nonsense. There is no such language

So don't program then - at least on a non-existing language, let other
do it. And stop scaring all newcomers: with you posting style the
least anyone wants ever do is to ask anything again in this
newsgroup.
Also if you do not agree with the terms used in this group FAQ then
it should be handled by the specified procedure, such as
1) Reading
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.html#FAQ2_1
2) Do not agree with used terms
3) Argumenting your point of view as specified at
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.html#FAQ5

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

VK wrote:

On Mar 30, 2:12 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>VK wrote:

>>On Mar 30, 1:39 pm, "jim" <[e-mail]:
I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>>IE and Opera or are there others?
Yes, it is the only client-side scripting language that is supported

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>by default [...]

Nonsense. There is no such language

So don't program then - at least on a non-existing language, let other
do it. And stop scaring all newcomers: with you posting style the
least anyone wants ever do is to ask anything again in this
newsgroup. [...]

Your destroying the context of my statement again, and all your other
pointless rambling aside:

Your statement that there is a single programming language called
"javascript" that is supported by all (modern) user agents is simply
utterly wrong.
PointedEars
--
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_function.js:16

[Tom de Neef]

"jim" <ji*@home.netwrote

I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like
Firefox, IE and Opera or are there others?

The scripting that I am refering to is scripting that will show in the
user's browser when you "view source" - not scripting languages that run
on the server.

What you need is script that will be accepted by browsers when it appears in
the <script type=txt/javascriptelement. For all practical purposes we call
that 'javascript'.
I have just completed my first serious project of a few thousand lines.
You will need an editor and a test environment. Any editor will do. Some
will color-code the text and 'understand' the language structure. I failed
to get those to work properly. I bought Antechinus and that is a fiasco. It
stalls so often during debugging that I don't use it for that any longer.
For testing I use Firebug. Compared to what you can get for old-fashioned
languages like Delphi this is still primitive but it is a great help.

Success!
Tom

www.qolor.nl/spelling

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

VK wrote:

[...]
First of all comp.lang.javascript is a Big 8 newsgroup with a publicly
voted group charter and group description. Both of them are stating
that this group is/was/will about "Netscape Communications Corp.'s
JavaScript language." That means that "JavaScript" as an accepted name
is always allowed here.

Although that charter is somewhat outdated, considering the number of
different ECMAScript implementations that are currently discussed here:

Yes, "JavaScript" is an accepted name and allowed here. You miss the point.
PointedEars
--
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_function.js:16

[MikeB]

"Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <Po*********@web.dewrote in message
news:47**************@PointedEars.de...

VK wrote:

>[...]
First of all comp.lang.javascript is a Big 8 newsgroup with a publicly
voted group charter and group description. Both of them are stating
that this group is/was/will about "Netscape Communications Corp.'s
JavaScript language." That means that "JavaScript" as an accepted name
is always allowed here.

Although that charter is somewhat outdated, considering the number of
different ECMAScript implementations that are currently discussed here:

Yes, "JavaScript" is an accepted name and allowed here. You miss the point.

Oh, because the language is Case Sensitive... Do I win anything?

>
PointedEars
--
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_function.js:16

[MikeB]

"Tom de Neef" <td*****@qolor.nlwrote in message
news:47***********************@news.xs4all.nl...

"jim" <ji*@home.netwrote

>I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,
IE and Opera or are there others?

The scripting that I am refering to is scripting that will show in the
user's browser when you "view source" - not scripting languages that run on
the server.

What you need is script that will be accepted by browsers when it appears in
the <script type=txt/javascriptelement. For all practical purposes we call
that 'javascript'.
I have just completed my first serious project of a few thousand lines.
You will need an editor and a test environment. Any editor will do. Some will
color-code the text and 'understand' the language structure. I failed to get
those to work properly. I bought Antechinus and that is a fiasco. It stalls
so often during debugging that I don't use it for that any longer. For
testing I use Firebug. Compared to what you can get for old-fashioned
languages like Delphi this is still primitive but it is a great help.

Tom,
I use PrimalScript for editor and actually use the Script Debugger in VS,
since it works with both VBScript and J(ava)Script. PrimalScript does contain
a debugger, but I rarely use it, largely because I'd gotten used to the MS one
as it is similar to the Debugger that pops up JIT on the Server.

Success!
Tom

www.qolor.nl/spelling

[Stevo]

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

jim wrote:

>I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,
IE and Opera or are there others?

Please understand that there is no "javascript"
PointedEars

There's still a Santa Claus though, right ?

Thomas, you're being too pedantic. It's not a good look for you. Chill
out, let's all run naked and free and call javascript a language.

[VK]

Please understand that there is no "javascript"

PointedEars

There's still a Santa Claus though, right ?

[With my deep respect to Mr. Francis P. Church]

Yes, Virginia, there is a Javascript. He exists as certainly as
Internet and Web and HTML exist, and you know that they abound and
give to your surfing experience its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how
dreary would be the Web if there were no Javascript! It would be as
dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no rich web
applications then, no hope to fight with Microsoft Office, no friendly
interfaces to make tolerable this existence. We should have no
enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The external light with which
childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

:-)

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

VK wrote:

>>Please understand that there is no "javascript"
PointedEars

There's still a Santa Claus though, right ?

[With my deep respect to Mr. Francis P. Church]

Yes, Virginia, there is a Javascript. He exists as certainly as
Internet and Web and HTML exist, and you know that they abound and
give to your surfing experience its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how
dreary would be the Web if there were no Javascript! It would be as
dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no rich web
applications then, no hope to fight with Microsoft Office, no friendly
interfaces to make tolerable this existence. We should have no
enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The external light with which
childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

:-)

You should become a professional fairytale-teller instead as it turns out to
be your true calling.
PointedEars
--
realism: HTML 4.01 Strict
evangelism: XHTML 1.0 Strict
madness: XHTML 1.1 as application/xhtml+xml
-- Bjoern Hoehrmann

[Logos]

Maybe it would be a good idea for you (PointedEars) to start a
comp.lang.ECMAScript Newsgroup. The advantage for the rest of us being
that we could use comp.lang.javascript to learn and discuss javascript
without putting up with your aggressive rudeness and your pedantic and
factually correct but useless posts.

Steve.

I'll second that! PointedEars is amazingly hostile and unhelpful in
many of the posts I've read, and quite often fails to address the
question of the poster altogether, instead spinning off into
legalistic wrangling. It would be fine if 1, he was polite about it
and 2, went on to actually address the poster's concerns, but
frequently he does neither.

Tyler

[Logos]

On Mar 30, 2:39 am, "jim" <[e-mail]:

I am new to web programming with javascript and I was wondering if
javascript is the only scripting language that run in browsers like Firefox,
IE and Opera or are there others?

The scripting that I am refering to is scripting that will show in the
user's browser when you "view source" - not scripting languages that run on
the server.

Thanks!

jim

Hey Jim. Javascript is your only option, unless you are working on a
controlled corporate intranet and can be certain all your users will
have IE with vbscript enabled on the client side.

Tyler