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hi,

I have just released a javascript framework. It is at tin-tags.org. I am
greateful for any comments.

Thanks in advance.
Aug 19 '07 #1
10 1431
Hi Thomas,
It is at tin-tags.org.
while accessing tin-tags.org my browser always tries to download a
xhtml file. Maybe this is not a feature? ;)

greetings,

Kay
Aug 20 '07 #2
rf
"Kay-Uve Höhns" <kh*****@googlemail.comwrote in message
news:11**********************@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
Hi Thomas,
>It is at tin-tags.org.
while accessing tin-tags.org my browser always tries to download a
xhtml file. Maybe this is not a feature? ;)
The page is being served as application/xhtml+xml which everyone (except Mr
Farrelly) knows is incompatible with IE. IE simply does not do XHTML and
will invite you to download the page.

--
Richard.
Aug 20 '07 #3
On 20 Aug, 07:14, "rf" <r...@invalid.comwrote:
"Kay-Uve Höhns" <khoe...@googlemail.comwrote in message

news:11**********************@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
Hi Thomas,
It is at tin-tags.org.
while accessing tin-tags.org my browser always tries to download a
xhtml file. Maybe this is not a feature? ;)

The page is being served as application/xhtml+xml which everyone (except Mr
Farrelly) knows is incompatible with IE. IE simply does not do XHTML and
will invite you to download the page.

--
Richard.
Tin-tags is beta software. It only works with recent versions of
FireFox. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Aug 20 '07 #4
th****@metatools.org said the following on 8/20/2007 10:33 AM:
On 20 Aug, 07:14, "rf" <r...@invalid.comwrote:
>"Kay-Uve Höhns" <khoe...@googlemail.comwrote in message

news:11**********************@50g2000hsm.googlegr oups.com...
>>Hi Thomas,
It is at tin-tags.org.
while accessing tin-tags.org my browser always tries to download a
xhtml file. Maybe this is not a feature? ;)
The page is being served as application/xhtml+xml which everyone (except Mr
Farrelly) knows is incompatible with IE. IE simply does not do XHTML and
will invite you to download the page.
Tin-tags is beta software. It only works with recent versions of
FireFox. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Now there is a new one. A Firefox only site. Switch to HTML and your
problems with IE go away and you have a site that 90%+ of the web can view.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
Aug 21 '07 #5
rf

<th****@metatools.orgwrote in message
news:11*********************@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
On 20 Aug, 07:14, "rf" <r...@invalid.comwrote:
>Tin-tags is beta software. It only works with recent versions of
FireFox. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
So it's pretty useless in the context of the web then :-)

--
Richard.
Aug 21 '07 #6
On Aug 19, 1:17 pm, "Thomas M. Farrelly" <tho...@metatools.orgwrote:
hi,

I have just released a javascript framework. It is at tin-tags.org. I am
greateful for any comments.

Thanks in advance.
As others have mentioned XHTML is not ready for production use in
general. Those in the know use HTML. Search google for "don't use
XHTML" or similar. You may not care but HTML pages with invalid tags
will, well, not validate...(http://validator.w3.org/) If validation
matters and a person authors in HTML, and wants the page to work on IE
then I think tin-tags would not be usable as is.

On your site the drop down menu is very difficult to use and takes
many tries and some luck.

Peter

Aug 21 '07 #7
On Aug 20, 7:33 am, tho...@metatools.org wrote:
Tin-tags is beta software. It only works with recent versions of
FireFox. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
I appreciate the effort you're making here, and in fact you've got
some interesting ideas in your framework. I see you're running Linux
and are experimenting with browser-as-UI platform, both good things.
However, saying "I don't know anything about browser compatibility
issues" indicates you should probably put some effort in here first
before aspiring to make anything as amibitious as a client-side
framework. Learn some solid cross-browser HTML 4 and CSS *first*,
then take on client-side JavaScript.

Aug 21 '07 #8
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:52:02 +0000, David Golightly wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:33 am, tho...@metatools.org wrote:
>Tin-tags is beta software. It only works with recent versions of
FireFox. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

I appreciate the effort you're making here, and in fact you've got
some interesting ideas in your framework. I see you're running Linux
and are experimenting with browser-as-UI platform, both good things.
However, saying "I don't know anything about browser compatibility
issues" indicates you should probably put some effort in here first
before aspiring to make anything as amibitious as a client-side
framework. Learn some solid cross-browser HTML 4 and CSS *first*,
then take on client-side JavaScript.
My focus and priorities are different then yours.

I am very happy about tin-tags. It does what it is supposed to do at this
point. It does this in approx 300 lines of well written javascript code
(tin/init.js).

When it comes to compatibility, that is something that I am looking into.
IMHO functionality and compatibility issues are separate. I also
emphasize that this is beta software.
Aug 21 '07 #9
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:31:06 +0000, Peter Michaux wrote:
On Aug 19, 1:17 pm, "Thomas M. Farrelly" <tho...@metatools.orgwrote:
>hi,

I have just released a javascript framework. It is at tin-tags.org. I am
greateful for any comments.

Thanks in advance.
[...]
If validation
matters and a person authors in HTML, and wants the page to work on IE
then I think tin-tags would not be usable as is.
True.
On your site the drop down menu is very difficult to use and takes
many tries and some luck.

Peter
I know. I just fixed so that the pulldown disappears once an item is
selected.

When selecting outside the anchor tag, text-selection is started. That is
annoying. Is anyone familiar with that problem, and know a way to fix it?
Aug 21 '07 #10
On Aug 21, 1:16 am, "Thomas M. Farrelly" <tho...@metatools.orgwrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:52:02 +0000, David Golightly wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:33 am, tho...@metatools.org wrote:
Tin-tags is beta software. It only works with recent versions of
FireFox. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
I appreciate the effort you're making here, and in fact you've got
some interesting ideas in your framework. I see you're running Linux
and are experimenting with browser-as-UI platform, both good things.
However, saying "I don't know anything about browser compatibility
issues" indicates you should probably put some effort in here first
before aspiring to make anything as amibitious as a client-side
framework. Learn some solid cross-browser HTML 4 and CSS *first*,
then take on client-side JavaScript.

My focus and priorities are different then yours.

I am very happy about tin-tags. It does what it is supposed to do at this
point. It does this in approx 300 lines of well written javascript code
(tin/init.js).

When it comes to compatibility, that is something that I am looking into.
IMHO functionality and compatibility issues are separate. I also
emphasize that this is beta software.
I realize that. For what they are, your tin-tags are a decent proof-
of-concept. However, you solicited opinions, so I gave you mine: it's
got a long way to go before you'll get any real-world adoption, and
that's your next step to tackle.

Aug 21 '07 #11

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