Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
18  4100 
mistral said the following on 3/22/2007 2:34 PM:
Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar,
You are assuming, incorrectly, that you can even change the text in the
status bar in any browser under 5 years old, you can't unless the user
explicitly allows it.
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mistral wrote :
Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from
setting the status bar text. So, all of the effects you're referring to
do not work in browsers.
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - version 9.65 - 2007-03-04
4.35 I have window.status="Moomin"; why doesn't the statusbar change? http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_35
Ge'rard
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On 22 mar, 23:24, Ge'rard Talbot <newsblahgr...@gtalbot.orgwrote:
mistral wrote :
Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
---
Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from
setting the status bar text. So, all of the effects you're referring to
do not work in browsers.
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - version 9.65 - 2007-03-04
4.35 I have window.status="Moomin"; why doesn't the statusbar change?http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_35
Ge'rard
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Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from setting the status bar text?
Why??? Such elementary thing as status bar scroller must work
flawlessly on most existing browsers. It is absolutely necessary to
show some info on status bar. Blocking of javascipts causes loss of
visualization, and loss of many useful functions.
Blocking flash would make much more sense than blocking javascript. I
tried scroller on ugly and trashy MS IE7.0 browser(the most rubbish
browser I have ever seen), and it does not work there. What is
workaround to show scroller on all browsers?(most of them). Using
dhtml? Other? Need workaround.
regards
mistral said the following on 3/22/2007 6:04 PM:
On 22 mar, 23:24, Ge'rard Talbot <newsblahgr...@gtalbot.orgwrote:
>mistral wrote :
Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
---
>Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from
setting the status bar text. So, all of the effects you're referring to
do not work in browsers.
>comp.lang.javascript FAQ - version 9.65 - 2007-03-04
4.35 I have window.status="Moomin"; why doesn't the statusbar change?http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_35
Ge'rard
--
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>Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from setting the status bar text?
Why???
Because the status bar servers a very specific purpose and most browser
producers have realized that it was ignorant to allow scripting of it in
the first place.
Such elementary thing as status bar scroller must work
flawlessly on most existing browsers.
Ummm, yeah right.
It is absolutely necessary to show some info on status bar.
Really? Well, the browser does. Mouse over a link and let me know what
showed in the status bar.
Blocking of javascipts causes loss of visualization, and loss of many useful functions.
Javascript isn't what was blocked. What was blocked was the ability to
hijack a basic functionality of the status bar. Have you tried opening a
new window in FF or IE7 without a tool-bar?
Blocking flash would make much more sense than blocking javascript.
Nobody said anything about blocking javascript.
I tried scroller on ugly and trashy MS IE7.0 browser(the most rubbish
browser I have ever seen), and it does not work there.
Good. But, if it is so "rubbish" then why do you use it?
What is workaround to show scroller on all browsers?(most of them).
Find another way to display the information in the page. Have you heard
of position:fixed?
Using dhtml? Other? Need workaround.
Use a div element to scroll your message. You can't script the status
bar in a decent browser.
--
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Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
mistral wrote:
On 22 mar, 23:24, Ge'rard Talbot <newsblahgr...@gtalbot.orgwrote:
>Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from setting the status bar text?
Why???
Because it constitutes a very dangerous security breach, which has been
put to effective use by countless criminals. Most browsers have removed
this facility, or at least given an option to disallow it, for a good
many years, now.
--
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"You can, if you wish, class all science-fiction together; but it is
about as perceptive as classing the works of Ballantyne, Conrad and W.
W. Jacobs together as the 'sea-story' and then criticizing _that_."
-- C. S. Lewis. "An Experiment in Criticism"
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On Mar 22, 5:04 pm, "mistral" <polych...@softhome.netwrote:
On 22 mar, 23:24, Ge'rard Talbot <newsblahgr...@gtalbot.orgwrote:
mistral wrote :
Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
---
Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from
setting the status bar text. So, all of the effects you're referring to
do not work in browsers.
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - version 9.65 - 2007-03-04
4.35 I have window.status="Moomin"; why doesn't the statusbar change?http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_35
Ge'rard
--
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-------
Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from setting the status bar text?
Why??? Such elementary thing as status bar scroller must work
flawlessly on most existing browsers. It is absolutely necessary to
show some info on status bar. Blocking of javascipts causes loss of
visualization, and loss of many useful functions.
Blocking flash would make much more sense than blocking javascript. I
tried scroller on ugly and trashy MS IE7.0 browser(the most rubbish
browser I have ever seen), and it does not work there. What is
workaround to show scroller on all browsers?(most of them). Using
dhtml? Other? Need workaround.
It's not really that horrible because the status bar is not the best
way to show a message. Creating a floating div or even a tooltip to
communicate to a user is better. Personally, I don't spend most of my
browsing time watching the status bar; I only use it when I want to
see the how the page is loading or see where a link points too.
JavaScript shouldn't interfere with that.
>
regards
On 23 mar, 00:53, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH...@aol.comwrote:
mistral said the following on 3/22/2007 6:04 PM:
On 22 mar, 23:24, Ge'rard Talbot <newsblahgr...@gtalbot.orgwrote:
mistral wrote :
Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
-----
>Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from
setting the status bar text. So, all of the effects you're referring to
do not work in browsers.
>comp.lang.javascript FAQ - version 9.65 - 2007-03-04
4.35 I have window.status="Moomin"; why doesn't the statusbar change?http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_35
>Ge'rard
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>
>Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from setting the status bar text?
Why???
Because the status bar servers a very specific purpose and most browser
producers have realized that it was ignorant to allow scripting of it in
the first place.
Such elementary thing as status bar scroller must work
flawlessly on most existing browsers.
Ummm, yeah right.
>It is absolutely necessary to show some info on status bar.
Really? Well, the browser does. Mouse over a link and let me know what
showed in the status bar.
Blocking of javascipts causes loss of visualization, and loss of many useful functions.
Javascript isn't what was blocked. What was blocked was the ability to
hijack a basic functionality of the status bar. Have you tried opening a
new window in FF or IE7 without a tool-bar?
>Blocking flash would make much more sense than blocking javascript.
Nobody said anything about blocking javascript.
I tried scroller on ugly and trashy MS IE7.0 browser(the most rubbish
browser I have ever seen), and it does not work there.
Good. But, if it is so "rubbish" then why do you use it?
What is workaround to show scroller on all browsers?(most of them).
Find another way to display the information in the page. Have you heard
of position:fixed?
Using dhtml? Other? Need workaround.
Use a div element to scroll your message. You can't script the status
bar in a decent browser.
--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javascript FAQ -http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices -http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/-
-------------
I use IE 6.0, not IE 7.0 - I just tested scroller on IE7.0 On IE 6.0
scroller works, though I have all latest updates installed. So IE6.0
have not removed this facility. Where is this so called "securiry"?
Is there samples using a div element to scroll message in the required
place?
Mistral
mistral said the following on 3/23/2007 6:05 AM:
<snip>
I use IE 6.0, not IE 7.0 - I just tested scroller on IE7.0
And it didn't work as IE7 doesn't allow you, by default, to script the
status bar.
On IE 6.0 scroller works, though I have all latest updates installed.
Update the 7 year old browser....
So IE6.0 have not removed this facility. Where is this so called "securiry"?
Search the archives.
Is there samples using a div element to scroll message in the required
place?
<marquee>Your message here</marquee>
At its simplest.
<URL: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=javascript+scroller>
Want you text to be typed?
<URL: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/hikksnotathome/typingText.html>
None of which use the status bar.
--
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Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
On 23 mar, 14:51, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH...@aol.comwrote:
mistral said the following on 3/23/2007 6:05 AM:
<snip>
I use IE 6.0, not IE 7.0 - I just tested scroller on IE7.0
And it didn't work as IE7 doesn't allow you, by default, to script the
status bar.
On IE 6.0 scroller works, though I have all latest updates installed.
Update the 7 year old browser....
So IE6.0 have not removed this facility. Where is this so called "securiry"?
Search the archives.
Is there samples using a div element to scroll message in the required
place?
<marquee>Your message here</marquee>
At its simplest.
<URL:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=javascript+scroller>
Want you text to be typed?
<URL:http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/hikksnotathome/typingText.html>
None of which use the status bar.
--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javascript FAQ -http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices -http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
---------------------
Just can confirm that IE7.0 is extremelly inconvenient and ugly
browser. http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/hikksno...ypingText.html
- such simple effect requires a whole bunch of code?? There is
nothing extra, just elementary effect. Something wrong there,
definitely.
Mistral
mistral said the following on 3/23/2007 9:57 AM:
<snip>
Just can confirm that IE7.0 is extremelly inconvenient and ugly
browser.
"inconvenient and ugly"? How so? http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/hikksno...ypingText.html
- such simple effect requires a whole bunch of code?? There is
nothing extra, just elementary effect. Something wrong there,
definitely.
It was written a very long time ago and was written when IE5.5 was still
around even though it behaves *exactly* the same in IE7 as it did in
IE5.5. As far as "a whole bunch of code", that code is free to you to
use, where is *your* code to do it simpler? (Although I know for a fact
it could be done simpler).
--
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Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
In comp.lang.javascript message <13*************@corp.supernews.com>,
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:24:17, Ge'rard Talbot <ne***********@gtalbot.org>
posted:
>mistral wrote :
>Is there some other (more advanced) effects for status bar, other than
standard Scroller Bar, TypeWriter Scroller, Flashing Bar, Decrypter,
Ticker, World Clock?
Most browsers are configured, by default, to disallow scripts from
setting the status bar text. So, all of the effects you're referring to
do not work in browsers.
Both my IE6 & my IE7 allow javascript to write to the status bar by
assigning to window.status and to increment it with window.status++ - I
don't recall enabling that (and have not found where to do so).
And window.status can be read too, so it can be restored. It's a nice
easy way of showing a progress count, and those who don't see it can do
without.
In comp.lang.javascript message <pa********************@giganews.com>,
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:53:14, Randy Webb <Hi************@aol.composted:
Have you tried opening a new window in FF or IE7 without a tool-bar?
Perhaps you mean without using a tool-bar? Shift-click on an existing
link does it for me, or Ctrl-N. Granted, that does not open Home.
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Dr J R Stockton said the following on 3/23/2007 2:19 PM:
<snip>
In comp.lang.javascript message <pa********************@giganews.com>,
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:53:14, Randy Webb <Hi************@aol.composted:
>Have you tried opening a new window in FF or IE7 without a tool-bar?
Perhaps you mean without using a tool-bar? Shift-click on an existing
link does it for me, or Ctrl-N. Granted, that does not open Home.
I was referring to the third parameter of window.open and opening a
window without the tool-bar. The location bar will always be present (as
will the status bar) in IE7. IE6, IIRC, allows no status or location bar.
--
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Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
Dr J R Stockton wrote :
Both my IE6 & my IE7 allow javascript to write to the status bar by
assigning to window.status and to increment it with window.status++ - I
don't recall enabling that (and have not found where to do so).
In MSIE 7:
Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Internet Zone/Custom level...
button/Scripting category/Allow status bar updates via script/Disable
and Enable radio buttons.
Gérard
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Randy Webb wrote :
I was referring to the third parameter of window.open and opening a
window without the tool-bar. The location bar will always be present (as
will the status bar) in IE7. IE6, IIRC, allows no status or location bar.
In MSIE 6 SP2, the status bar should always be present in
script-initiated secondary windows (windows created with window.open()).
DOM:window.open http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs...s_bar_presence
In MSIE 6 for XP SP2: For windows opened using window.open():
"For windows opened using window.open():
Expect the status bar to be present, and code for it. The status
bar will be on by default and is 20-25 pixels in height. (...)"
quote from Fine-Tune Your Web Site for Windows XP Service Pack 2,
Browser Window Restrictions in XP SP2 http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/p...sp#xpsp_topic5
"(...) windows that are created using the window.open() method can
be called by scripts and used to spoof a user interface or desktop or to
hide malicious information or activity by sizing the window so that the
status bar is not visible.
Internet Explorer windows provide visible security information to
the user to help them ascertain the source of the Web page and the
security of the communication with that page. When these elements are
not in view, the user might think they are on a more trusted page or
interacting with a system process when they are actually interacting
with a malicious host. (...)
Script-initiated windows will be displayed fully, with the Internet
Explorer title bar and status bar. (...)
Script management of Internet Explorer status bar
Detailed description
Internet Explorer has been modified to not turn off the status bar
for any windows. The status bar is always visible for all Internet
Explorer windows. (...) Without this change, windows that are created
using the window.open() method can be called by scripts and spoof a user
interface or desktop or hide malicious information or activity by hiding
important elements of the user interface from the user.
The status bar is a security feature of Internet Explorer windows
that provides Internet Explorer security zone information to the user.
This zone cannot be spoofed (...)"
quote from Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2, Internet Explorer Window Restrictions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...rows.mspx#ECAA
Gérard
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In comp.lang.javascript message <13*************@corp.supernews.com>,
Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:28:59, Gérard Talbot <ne***********@gtalbot.org>
posted:
>Dr J R Stockton wrote :
>Both my IE6 & my IE7 allow javascript to write to the status bar by
assigning to window.status and to increment it with window.status++ - I
don't recall enabling that (and have not found where to do so).
In MSIE 7:
Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Internet Zone/Custom level...
button/Scripting category/Allow status bar updates via script/Disable
and Enable radio buttons.
Thanks. I'm fairly sure that those retain their default values on my
machines.
The default values depend on the Zone and Browser.
In IE6, reading from the local disc, I can update the status bar.
In IE6, reading from the Web site, I can update the status bar.
In IE7, reading from the local disc, I can update the status bar.
In IE7, reading from the Web site, I cannot update the status bar.
That means that an author can write to the status bar, the user can
decide whether to allow it, and the programmer cannot rely on the user
seeing it.
Is there an always-available way to display a progress count as it goes
without resorting to setTimeout or similar?
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In comp.lang.javascript message <13*************@corp.supernews.com>,
Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:34:10, Gérard Talbot <ne***********@gtalbot.org>
posted:
>Randy Webb wrote :
>I was referring to the third parameter of window.open and opening a
window without the tool-bar. The location bar will always be present
(as will the status bar) in IE7. IE6, IIRC, allows no status or
location bar.
In MSIE 6 SP2, the status bar should always be present in script-
initiated secondary windows (windows created with window.open()).
So they say, I suppose.
In XP sp2 IE6, <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-quick.htm>, press
the button NewW - I get a window with only a title bar
about :blank - Microsoft Internet explorer 3 buttons
and a thumbless vertical scrollbar.
I get the same in IE7, though with different words.
The button's onClick calls
function NewWin_(St) {
with (window.open("", "X"+new Date().getTime(),
"resizable,scrollbars")) { eval(St) ; document.close() } }
Perhaps eval should be remoteEval_
OT: I don't know how to make the "?" button work.
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Dr J R Stockton said the following on 3/24/2007 6:00 PM:
<snip>
Is there an always-available way to display a progress count as it goes
without resorting to setTimeout or similar?
Not reliable. If you try to do it in the page itself then you know about
the display update issue and the only other option is trying the status
bar which you also know is unreliable.
Is there a problem with a setTimeout approach though while updating a
div element?
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In comp.lang.javascript message <J7********************@giganews.com>,
Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:12:11, Randy Webb <Hi************@aol.composted:
>Dr J R Stockton said the following on 3/24/2007 6:00 PM:
<snip>
>Is there an always-available way to display a progress count as it goes
without resorting to setTimeout or similar?
Not reliable. If you try to do it in the page itself then you know
about the display update issue and the only other option is trying the
status bar which you also know is unreliable.
Is there a problem with a setTimeout approach though while updating a
div element?
I do it, in some cases. But it requires more programming, and wastes
run time. Writing to status is efficient and effective - and some of my
pages are viewed rather often during authoring.
However, if someone provides an all-browser immediate-display function,
I'd probably use it - function WriteNow(ID, Str) { /* ?? */ } ; .
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suppose the i have to...
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by: Hystou |
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There are some requirements for setting up RAID:
1. The motherboard and BIOS support RAID configuration.
2. The motherboard has 2 or more available SATA protocol SSD/HDD slots (including MSATA, M.2...
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by: Oralloy |
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Hello folks,
I am unable to find appropriate documentation on the type promotion of bit-fields when using the generalised comparison operator "<=>".
The problem is that using the GNU compilers,...
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