html page from different server

[demiourgos]

Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

[pcx99]

de********@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...cts/iframe.asp

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[Toby Inkster]

demiourgos wrote:

Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

PHP's include() function, or similar function in almost any other
server-side scripting language.

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[Evertjan.]

wrote on 04 dec 2006 in comp.lang.javascript:

Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

This is off topic, isn't it?

But yes, you could use any other program language available,
like VBS in IE, or any serverside language, ASP-VBS, PHP.

Even serverside JS can do that, but you stipulated against that.

Please ask in a relevant NG.

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[Evertjan.]

Evertjan. wrote on 05 dec 2006 in comp.lang.javascript:

wrote on 04 dec 2006 in comp.lang.javascript:

>Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

This is off topic, isn't it?

But yes, you could use any other program language available,
like VBS in IE, or any serverside language, ASP-VBS, PHP.

Even serverside JS can do that, but you stipulated against that.

Please ask in a relevant NG.

Oh yes, you can use <iframe>.

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[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

In alt.html, de********@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

Nobody asked the question.

Are they both your pages?

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[Andy Dingley]

de********@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to embed html page from different server into another
html page without using javascript ?

Frame or <iframe- client-side only.

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.

You _could_ cache a copy on the server, then use server-side
techniques, but if you knew how to do that, you'd be telling us how to
do it instead.

All of these can be legally dubious if you're doing it to someone
else's content.

[Toby Inkster]

Andy Dingley wrote:

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.

Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

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[Philip Ronan]

In article <rn************@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby Inkster <us**********@tobyinkster.co.ukwrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.

Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

Not a very good idea though.

From <http://www.google.com/intl/en/terms_of_service.html>:

>You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat and
display them, or mirror the Google home page or results pages on
your Web site.

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[Jonathan N. Little]

Philip Ronan wrote:

In article <rn************@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby Inkster <us**********@tobyinkster.co.ukwrote:

>Andy Dingley wrote:

>>Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.

Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

Not a very good idea though.

From <http://www.google.com/intl/en/terms_of_service.html>:

>>You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat and
display them, or mirror the Google home page or results pages on
your Web site.

Sure, but Toby was just show that it *can* be done not whether or not it
*should* be done. It has been mentioned in this thread grabbing content
without permission was a bad idea. With permission it is not a problem.

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[Olli Mäntyranta]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Philip Ronan wrote:

>In article <rn************@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby Inkster <us**********@tobyinkster.co.ukwrote:

>>Andy Dingley wrote:

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.
Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

Not a very good idea though.

From <http://www.google.com/intl/en/terms_of_service.html>:

>>>You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat and
display them, or mirror the Google home page or results pages on
your Web site.

Sure, but Toby was just show that it *can* be done not whether or not it
*should* be done. It has been mentioned in this thread grabbing content
without permission was a bad idea. With permission it is not a problem.

I think it's a problem as well, that the page source looks like this:

<html><head><title>blaa blaa-page</title></head><body>
<h1>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet</h1>
<p>bit of blaa blaa blaa</p>
<html><head><title>Google</title>
<!-- lots of blaablaa here -->
</head><body>
<!-- more blaablaa here -->
</body></html>
<p>and yet some blaa blaa</p>
</body></html>

Or is it not?

Olli

[BootNic]

Olli Mäntyranta <ol*****@gmail.comwrote:

news: Av**************@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi
Jonathan N. Little wrote:

>Philip Ronan wrote:

>>In article <rn************@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby Inkster <us**********@tobyinkster.co.ukwrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.
Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

Not a very good idea though.

[snip]

I think it's a problem as well, that the page source looks like this:

<html><head><title>blaa blaa-page</title></head><body>
<h1>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet</h1>
<p>bit of blaa blaa blaa</p>
<html><head><title>Google</title>
<!-- lots of blaablaa here -->
</head><body>
<!-- more blaablaa here -->
</body></html>
<p>and yet some blaa blaa</p>
</body></html>

Or is it not?

It does not need to be a problem.
<?
/* Get the body content of a page */
$page=file_get_contents('http://www.google.com/');
$bodycontent=preg_split("/([<]body[^>]*>|<\/body>)/", $page);
print $bodycontent[1];
?>

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[Andy Dingley]

Toby Inkster wrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.

Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

For unusably small values of "nicely".

This technique is crap, don't ever use it on a live site. It's
symptomatic of PHP's worst feature, the attitude that if it can be
bodged on, it ought to be. Then the horde of clueless script kiddies
that represent the majority of PHP developers see the feature and use
it blindly.

Firstly, there's the rights issue (big deal).

Secondly, most of the things served by HTTP URLs are HTML pages -- i.e.
Whole pages, with <headetc, not just the small fragment you want to
embed.

Thirdly it's unreliable. What happens if the source server for this
include is down (or just slow)? The whole page dies, because there's no
caching mechanism.

Fouthly it's as slow as a dog because it involves extra round tripping
between servers.

Most importantly though, it's as unsafe and insecure as a Macclesfield
knocking shop with a MySpace website. PHP doesn't include HTML by this
route, it includes _PHP_scripts_. That's right - slurp up a random
fragment of PHP from feck knows where, then go and execute the damned
thing! Maybe you expect to just be pulling in some plain old HTML by
this route, but if someone sticks nasty-intentioned PHP into there,
you're already bending right over, lubed and ready.

_REALLY_ don't ever even think about using this total abomination. It's
crap like this that is the reason I won't give PHP house room.

[Toby Inkster]

Andy Dingley wrote:

For unusably small values of "nicely".

OK, so it's unlikely you'd want to do exactly what I posted as an example.
More likely, you'd have PHP download a copy of the file, cache it, and
probably parse and reformat it. That however, doesn't work so nicely in a
three-line post.

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[Andy Dingley]

Toby Inkster wrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:

For unusably small values of "nicely".

OK, so it's unlikely you'd want to do exactly what I posted as an example.

I wouldn't ever want to do anything that involved PHP's include() and a
URL

More likely, you'd have PHP download a copy of the file, cache it, and
probably parse and reformat it.

Yes, that's the level of trouble you'd have to go to. It wouldn't use
include() anywhere.

For almost all rational purposes involving content aggregation across
servers, then RSS is the sensible way to go.

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Olli Mäntyranta wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

>Philip Ronan wrote:

>>In article <rn************@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby Inkster <us**********@tobyinkster.co.ukwrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:

Can't use server-side stuff or SSI if it's on a different server.
Can!

include("http://www.google.com/");

works nicely in PHP.

[...]

[...]

I think it's a problem as well, that the page source looks like this:

<html><head><title>blaa blaa-page</title></head><body>
<h1>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet</h1>
<p>bit of blaa blaa blaa</p>
<html><head><title>Google</title>
<!-- lots of blaablaa here -->
</head><body>
<!-- more blaablaa here -->
</body></html>
<p>and yet some blaa blaa</p>
</body></html>

Or is it not?

You can (use Regular Expressions to) filter out the body element's content
of the included document.
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