Lost with dates

[ASM]

Hi,

perhaps it is a ThunderBird bug
perhaps it is a self bug

I can't to judge : I'm not very strong with dates.

I take as examples posts from :
- Randy Webb : <Fd********************@telcove.net>
- Me : <45**********************@news.orange.fr>

By here we are : 10/30/06 about 10:32 (local date and hour)

Randy seems to have written : Mon 30 Oct 2006 20:28:22 -0500
on ThunderBird for Windows
My ThunderBird on Mac shows me in Date Col : 10/31/06 2:28

If I look at my last post
it seems to have been written on : Mon 30 Oct 2006 01:37:15 +0100
ThunderBird in dats col shows : 10/30/06 1:37

If I understand correctly and convert right dates in my local time :
Randy : 10/30/06 20:28:22 -0500 +0100 = 10/30/06 16:28:22
ASM : 10/30/06 01:37:15 +0100 = 10/30/06 02:37:15

While ThunderBird stocks messages :
Randy : 10/31/06 2:28 (that is to say : tomorrow )
Me : 10/30/06 1:37

Is my ThunderBird completly mad or me ?

--
ASM

[RobG]

ASM wrote:

Hi,

perhaps it is a ThunderBird bug
perhaps it is a self bug

I can't to judge : I'm not very strong with dates.

I take as examples posts from :
- Randy Webb : <Fd********************@telcove.net>
- Me : <45**********************@news.orange.fr>

By here we are : 10/30/06 about 10:32 (local date and hour)

Wow, Dr J's favourite date format, FFF!! For the uninitiated, that's
"Fred Flinstone Format". :-)

Randy seems to have written : Mon 30 Oct 2006 20:28:22 -0500
on ThunderBird for Windows

Depends on which date you use. Use View -Headers -All and you'll
see that the NNTP-Posting-Date is Sun, 29 Oct 2006 03:24:11 -0600.

The other date (I think) is from Randy's system clock, which appears to
be several hours in advance of that. Thunderbird (for me) sorts on the
NNTP date, but displays the later date. Google groups sorts on the later
date, so Randy has been top-dog for nearly two days.

My ThunderBird on Mac shows me in Date Col : 10/31/06 2:28

But it's in the right position based on NNTP date (at least on my
Mac+Thunderbird). :-)

If I look at my last post
it seems to have been written on : Mon 30 Oct 2006 01:37:15 +0100
ThunderBird in dats col shows : 10/30/06 1:37

Look at it another way, Mike answered Randy's post over a day before it
was asked. Mike's good, but *that* good? Damn!

[...]

>
Is my ThunderBird completly mad or me ?

Neither, blame Randy. ;-p
--
Rob

[Evertjan.]

RobG wrote on 30 okt 2006 in comp.lang.javascript:

Look at it another way, Mike answered Randy's post over a day before it
was asked. Mike's good, but *that* good? Damn!

Topposting revisited.

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

[Randy Webb]

RobG said the following on 10/30/2006 8:55 AM:

ASM wrote:

<snip>

>Is my ThunderBird completly mad or me ?

Neither, blame Randy. ;-p

Makes me wonder how long it's been wrong, I don't ever look at the Date
in the clock. Does this mean I can set it a day behind and be like
Michael and answer posts before they get asked?

--
Randy
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[Dr J R Stockton]

In message <45**********************@news.orange.fr>, Mon, 30 Oct 2006
10:32:23, ASM <st*********************@wanadoo.fr.invalidwrite s

>
Is my ThunderBird completly mad or me ?

Fundamentally, it's the Internet Date Standard - remember where such
things probably originated, and remember the opening of Heinlein's "-
And He Built a Crooked House -".

News articles, and Mail, should in their headers be dated in GMT (or in
integer time_t, seconds from 1970.0 GMT), with in addition the author's
local offset from GMT. Attributions should use GMT too. Reading
software should display a choice of GMT, author's local time, & reader's
local time.
--
(c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 IE 6.
Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/- w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
PAS EXE etc : <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/- see 00index.htm
Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.