Anyone know where to get a Tool Tips javascript that will pop up a little
box when hovered for words that needs more explanation. I'm using Front Page
BTW.
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Steve Horrillo wrote: Anyone know where to get a Tool Tips javascript that will pop up a little
box when hovered for words that needs more explanation. I'm using Front Page
BTW.
This stuff may be a little over the top, but...
<URL:http://www.walterzorn.com/tooltip/tooltip_e.htm>
There is some good stuff on DHTML (though not specific to tool tips)
at quirksmode:
<URL:http://www.quirksmode.org/js/introdh.html>
--
Rob
"Steve Horrillo" <us****@stephenhorrillo.com> wrote in message
news:ry****************@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Anyone know where to get a Tool Tips javascript that will pop up a little
box when hovered for words that needs more explanation. I'm using Front
Page
BTW.
Have you tried editing the HTML and putting a <span title="Tool tip here">
around each word.
For example:
This is an HTML <span title="A node in an HTML document.">element</span>
with a tool tip.
You could even add color or cursor styles to the <span>.
"Steve Horrillo" <us****@stephenhorrillo.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:ry****************@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Anyone know where to get a Tool Tips javascript that will pop up a
little box when hovered for words that needs more explanation. I'm using
Front Page BTW. http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/
I suggest you to forget FrontPage, too much useless code generated,
leading to overweight pages.
Vic Sowers wrote on 26 jun 2005 in comp.lang.javascript : <span title="A node in an HTML document.">element</span>
or with far more possiblilities:
<http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)
"Steve Horrillo" <us****@stephenhorrillo.com> wrote in message
news:ry****************@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Anyone know where to get a Tool Tips javascript that will pop up a little
box when hovered for words that needs more explanation. I'm using Front
Page BTW.
I recently got just such a thing working at http://home.earthlink.net/~prodcode/...rTooltips.html. The
Javascript functions are in the file "functns.js" in the same directory. At
present, I have IE and FireFox using different subroutines. Although it is
possible to consolidate, there is a problem in that different versions of IE
handle window location differently. Thus, I had to write different lines of
code for IE5 than for IE4 and IE6. If your pages are short enough that
users don't have to scroll, you can get by with the same code for all
versions of IE and thus if you were to get IE and FF working off the same
code on one version of IE, you could be certain that it would work for all
versions.
Note: although my "functns.js" file may at first appear too long to study,
most of it converts variables for the different texts for the different
tooltips. Once you understand that you can ignore these slight variations,
the actual amount of code involved is small.
--
David Hayes
(remove the name of the programming language from email address to make it
usable)
>I suggest you to forget FrontPage, too much useless code >generated,
leading to overweight pages.
I know. I have Macromedia MX but I haven't found the time to get over
the learning curve. Front Page is a "monkey on my back" that I'm looking
foward to getting rid of. :)
Warmest regards,
Steve Horrillo http://stephenhorrillo.com
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David Hayes wrote: "Steve Horrillo" <us****@stephenhorrillo.com> wrote in message
news:ry****************@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Anyone know where to get a Tool Tips javascript that will pop up a little
box when hovered for words that needs more explanation. I'm using Front
Page
BTW.
I recently got just such a thing working at
http://home.earthlink.net/~prodcode/...rTooltips.html. The
Javascript functions are in the file "functns.js" in the same directory. At
present, I have IE and FireFox using different subroutines. Although it is
possible to consolidate, there is a problem in that different versions of IE
handle window location differently. Thus, I had to write different lines of
code for IE5 than for IE4 and IE6. If your pages are short enough that
users don't have to scroll, you can get by with the same code for all
versions of IE and thus if you were to get IE and FF working off the same
code on one version of IE, you could be certain that it would work for all
versions.
Note: although my "functns.js" file may at first appear too long to study,
most of it converts variables for the different texts for the different
tooltips. Once you understand that you can ignore these slight variations,
the actual amount of code involved is small.
Your page does some inadequate browser sniffing, then proceeds to throw
errors in Firefox. You could fix the errors quite easily, but seem to
have chosen to request visitors change to IE instead.
That's fine if you want your pages that way, but don't encourage others
to employ similar broken logic.
The link below to quirksmode provides code to find the position of an
element in the page in a far more efficient manner. It works in a wide
variety of browsers from NN4 onward, exceptions and work-arounds are
noted.
<URL:http://www.quirksmode.org/js/findpos.html>
--
Zif
Stephen Horrillo wrote: I suggest you to forget FrontPage, too much useless code >generated,
leading to overweight pages.
I know. I have Macromedia MX but I haven't found the time to get over
the learning curve. Front Page is a "monkey on my back" that I'm looking
foward to getting rid of. :)
MX is just as bad. Spend the "learning curve" learning HTML/CSS instead.
You will find that it actually makes your life easier than a supposed
WYSIWYG Editor.
--
Randy
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq & newsgroup weekly
"Zif" <zi***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mT******************@news.optus.net.au... David Hayes wrote: I recently got just such a thing working at
http://home.earthlink.net/~prodcode/...rTooltips.html. The [...]
Your page does some inadequate browser sniffing, then proceeds to throw
errors in Firefox. You could fix the errors quite easily, but seem to
have chosen to request visitors change to IE instead.
That's fine if you want your pages that way, but don't encourage others
to employ similar broken logic.
The request to use IE pertains to FF not translating HTML characters (e.g.,
"’" for curved apostrophe, "—" for long dash) into the typographic
characters that I want the viewers to see. However, placement and
appearance of the tooltips in FF works fine. Inasmuch as the person
requesting help merely wanted these things, the error that I cite is
irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
To assist in the matters at hand, I am including a script I adapated in
preparing the page cited above. This works in FF and IE.
<HTML>
<BODY>
<script>
<!--
var a;
var xpos=-200;
var started=0;
var Id=0;
var myx=50;
var mereme="Major Substitution... Yes"
function movemenu1(evnt){
if (a==1){
a=-1;
}
else{
a=1;
}
if(document.layers){document.tooltipz.top=document .marker.top+myx;document.t
ooltipz.visibility='visible';}
if(document.all){document.all.tooltipz.style.top=p arseInt(document.all.marke
r.style.top)+myx;document.all.tooltipz.style.visib ility="visible";}
if(!document.all && document.getElementById){
document.getElementById("tooltipz").style.top=pars eInt(document.getElementBy
Id("marker").style.top)+myx+"px";
document.getElementById("tooltipz").style.visibili ty="visible";
}
if(!Id){movemenu();started=1;}
}
function movemenu(){
if(xpos>4){xpos=0;}
if(xpos<-200){xpos=-200;}
xpos=xpos+200*a;
if(document.layers){
document.tooltipz.left=xpos;
}
if(document.all){
document.all.tooltipz.style.left=xpos;
}
if(!document.all && document.getElementById){
document.getElementById("tooltipz").style.left=xpo s+"px";
document.getElementById("tooltipz").firstChild.nod eValue=mereme;
}
if (xpos<=-200 || xpos>=0){window.clearTimeout(Id);Id=0;}else{Id =
window.setTimeout("movemenu();",100);}
}
// -->
</script>
<div id="tooltipz"
style="position:absolute;top:0;left:150;visibility :hidden;layer-background-c
olor:#FFEEEE;background-color:#FFEEEE">
This is content of my own.
</div>
<div id ="marker"
style="position:absolute;top:112;left:110;backgrou nd-color:white;layer-backg
round-color:white"><a href="javascript :void(0)"
onMouseOver="movemenu1();"><font color=red>Menu</font></a></div>
</body>
</HTML>
Please note that this does not position the tooltip according to where the
mouse is (see my other code for that) and that the tooltip in FF does not
turn off on this code until the mouse returns to the link. (Anyone wanting
this should create a simple "onMouseOut" changing visibility back to
hidden.)
I do contend that the code in this message is a good starting point for
developing customized tooltips and that the brevity of this code makes it
easy to find where to make adaptations.
--
David Hayes
(remove the name of the programming language from email address to make it
usable)
David Hayes wrote:
<--snip--> <a href="javascript:void(0)" onMouseOver="movemenu1();">
<font color=red>Menu</font></a></div> </body></HTML>
Please note that this does not position the tooltip according to where the
mouse is (see my other code for that) and that the tooltip in FF does not
turn off on this code until the mouse returns to the link. (Anyone wanting
this should create a simple "onMouseOut" changing visibility back to
hidden.)
I do contend that the code in this message is a good starting point for
developing customized tooltips and that the brevity of this code makes it
easy to find where to make adaptations.
So, you think that using the javascript : pseudo-protocol and deprecated
font tags is a "good starting point" for anything? Its not.
--
Randy
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq & newsgroup weekly
Stephen Horrillo wrote: I suggest you to forget FrontPage, too much useless code >generated,
leading to overweight pages.
I know. I have Macromedia MX [...]
Without much adjustment, that's just as bad. Get yourself a by-default
decent *source code editor* with syntax highlighting, auto-indenting and,
if possible code completion. I recommend MyEclipse 4.0 [1] for Eclipse
3.1 [2] which has all of that and more; generally Eclipse is a Good Thing
if you don't like only vim [3], Emacs [4], Metapad [5] and Notepad.
[1] <http://myeclipseide.com/>
[2] <http://eclipse.org/>
[3] <http://www.vim.org/>
[4] <http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html>
[5] <http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/>
PointedEars
On 13-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: I suggest you to forget FrontPage, too much useless code >generated,
leading to overweight pages.
I know. I have Macromedia MX [...]
Without much adjustment, that's just as bad. Get yourself a by-default
decent *source code editor* with syntax highlighting, auto-indenting and,
if possible code completion. I recommend MyEclipse 4.0 [1] for Eclipse
3.1 [2] which has all of that and more; generally Eclipse is a Good Thing
if you don't like only vim [3], Emacs [4], Metapad [5] and Notepad.
As horrid as the code is on my sites they're ranked at near the top of the
engines, and being that I'm on other people's computers every day I try to
access my sites and they're all accessible on all sorts of computer and
connections. What are the practical real world benfits of having W3 perfect
error free code?
--
Warmest regards,
Steve Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht. =^..^= http://BrokerAgentTraining.com http://over100percent.com http://HipFSBO.com http://eLOWn.com
Steve Horrillo wrote: As horrid as the code is on my sites they're ranked at near the top of
the engines,
Which proves what?
and being that I'm on other people's computers every day I try to
access my sites and they're all accessible on all sorts of computer
and connections.
I sincerely doubt that.
What are the practical real world benfits of having W3 perfect error free
code?
There are many, including that client-side scripts basically
will work in a UA (provided they support the respective DOM).
If the examples in this group and other newsgroups dealing
with Web authoring are not sufficient for you, try Google:
<http://www.google.de/search?q=why+valid+code>
provides certain insight.
This particular discussion does not belong into this group.
PointedEars
Steve Horrillo wrote: As horrid as the code is on my sites they're ranked at near the top of
the engines,
Which proves what?
and being that I'm on other people's computers every day I try to
access my sites and they're all accessible on all sorts of computer
and connections.
I sincerely doubt that.
What are the practical real world benfits of having W3 perfect error free
code?
There are many, including that client-side scripts basically
will work in a UA (provided they support the respective DOM).
If the examples in this group and other newsgroups dealing
with Web authoring are not sufficient for you, try Google:
<http://google.com/search?q=why+valid+code>
provides certain insight.
This particular discussion does not belong into this group.
PointedEars
On 15-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: As horrid as the code is on my sites they're ranked at near the top of
the engines,
Which proves what?
and being that I'm on other people's computers every day I try to
access my sites and they're all accessible on all sorts of computer
and connections.
I sincerely doubt that.
What are the practical real world benfits of having W3 perfect error
free
code?
There are many, including that client-side scripts basically
will work in a UA (provided they support the respective DOM).
If the examples in this group and other newsgroups dealing
with Web authoring are not sufficient for you, try Google:
<http://www.google.de/search?q=why+valid+code>
That link leads to the REAL reason W3C code is so important. Look at the
prices they charge to correct "bad" code. Make up some BS standard then
charge people to live up to it $ukers!!!
Pricing
Site Size Annual Price (US dollars)
1 - 100 pages or frames </toolbox/faq.htm> $60 per URL
101 - 400 pages or frames </toolbox/faq.htm> $200 per URL
Larger than 400 pages or frames </toolbox/faq.htm> See below
Have custom needs? Click here </toolbox/large_sites.htm>
Need advanced features? HTML Toolbox Advanced – Gold ($499 per URL) for
up to 1000 pages or frames HTML Toolbox Advanced – Platinum ($799) for up
to 5000 pages or frames
--
All the best,
NOYB
With neither quill nor qualm, NOYB quothed <http://www.google.de/search?q=why+valid+code>
That link leads to the REAL reason W3C code is so important. Look at the
prices they charge to correct "bad" code. Make up some BS standard then
charge people to live up to it $ukers!!!
Yes but if you take the time to learn the "bs standard" you won't have
to "pay the piper" later, so to speak.
--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.
On 16-Jul-2005, Neredbojias <ne*********@neredbojias.com> wrote: Yes but if you take the time to learn the "bs standard" you won't have
to "pay the piper" later, so to speak.
Any browser that's designed to be unforgiving will be gone sooner or later.
Not many people are going to shoot themselves in the foot for too long just
because they hate microsoft.
--
All the best,
NOYB
NOYB <reply_to_me@this_newsgroup.com> wrote:
Your sender information is forged which is a violation of Internet standards
(including, but not limited to, domain abuse) and the Terms of Use of your
provider (bellsouth.net [1]) as well as a disregard of Netiquette.
[1] <http://www.bellsouth.com/termsofuse.html> On 16-Jul-2005, Neredbojias <ne*********@neredbojias.com> wrote: Yes but if you take the time to learn the "bs standard" you won't have
to "pay the piper" later, so to speak.
Any browser that's designed to be unforgiving will be gone sooner or
later.
On the contrary, the trend is towards more standards compliant browsers.
Not many people are going to shoot themselves in the foot for too long
Yes, bad Web authors will not prevail in the long run.
just because they hate microsoft.
This is not about Microsoft.
And, BTW, this is not about JavaScript either! Don't crosspost here
if it does not concern the language! Followup-To alt.html.
PointedEars
--
But he had not that supreme gift of the
artist, the knowledge of when to stop.
-- Sherlock Holmes
NOYB said:
On 16-Jul-2005, Neredbojias <ne*********@neredbojias.com> wrote:
Yes but if you take the time to learn the "bs standard" you won't have
to "pay the piper" later, so to speak.
Any browser that's designed to be unforgiving will be gone sooner or later.
Not many people are going to shoot themselves in the foot for too long just
because they hate microsoft.
A system that is "forgiving" is guessing about what you really
want to do, and will be wrong some of the time. The people
who are shooting themselves in the foot are the amateurs who
can't be bothered to learn how to code correctly.
On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: NOYB <reply_to_me@this_newsgroup.com> wrote:
Your sender information is forged which is a violation of Internet
standards
(including, but not limited to, domain abuse) and the Terms of Use of your
provider (bellsouth.net [1]) as well as a disregard of Netiquette.
What do you mean by that? Nothing is forged. Are you saying I have to use my
real name and email address on USENET. That's ridiculous. You're not.
--
All the best,
NOYB
On 17-Jul-2005, Lee <RE**************@cox.net> wrote: A system that is "forgiving" is guessing about what you really
want to do, and will be wrong some of the time. The people
who are shooting themselves in the foot are the amateurs who
can't be bothered to learn how to code correctly.
So you mean until I learn coding I shouldn't be in competition with you.
Yes, I can see why you would take that stand.
--
All the best,
NOYB
NOYB wrote: On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: NOYB <reply_to_me@this_newsgroup.com> wrote:
Your sender information is forged which is a violation of Internet
standards (including, but not limited to, domain abuse) and the Terms of
Use of your provider (bellsouth.net [1]) as well as a disregard of
Netiquette.
What do you mean by that? Nothing is forged.
Yes it is. The sender address has to specify a mailbox. "A mailbox
receives mail." (RFC 2822, address spec.) It does not because the
domain this_newsgroup.com is not registered. And if anyone would
register this_newsgroup.com in the future he would be spammed because
you abused the domain name and allowed a simple harvester to get it.
Are you saying I have to use my real name
No, I'm not. (But then I do not expect people lacking the simple
courtesy to identify themselves to understand the issues that
arise with address and domain abuse.)
and email address on USENET.
Yes, you are obliged to that by the Terms of Use of the ISP that
you accepted. People have the right to send complaint about such
abuse to your ISP if you don't comply. It is up to the ISP how
to treat such cases.
You're not.
Yes I am, it only includes my nickname, and all the headers in my
postings specify mailboxes of which I am the owner. Yours do not.
Ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff.
And you are unnecessarily crossposting (without Followup-To) again.
PointedEars, F'up2 where it belongs
With neither quill nor qualm, NOYB quothed Any browser that's designed to be unforgiving will be gone sooner or later.
I dunno. If you're 1 minute late for work once, should you be fired?
Perhaps that's not the best analogy, but forgiving things are generally
preferable to unforgiving things in my dvd. Of course, the way by which
the "forgiving" is accomplished may be objectionable, but the real rub
and problem is when things don't work the way they should. Now I do *a
lot* of markup and programming that includes css and javascript, and
I've come across several instances wherein IE does css correctly and
Mozilla does not. Neither browser is anywhere near to "working the way
it should," although, admittedly, IE probably has more major faults in
standards-rendering. (I still can't believe they fail to do
"position:fixed" after all these years.)
Not many people are going to shoot themselves in the foot for too long just
because they hate microsoft.
It's probably true that the only people who would shoot themselves
anywhere because they hate anything are those people who hate themselves
so I must consider this bit of pedantic pedephilia irrelevant.
--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.
NOYB said:
On 17-Jul-2005, Lee <RE**************@cox.net> wrote:
A system that is "forgiving" is guessing about what you really
want to do, and will be wrong some of the time. The people
who are shooting themselves in the foot are the amateurs who
can't be bothered to learn how to code correctly.
So you mean until I learn coding I shouldn't be in competition with you.
Yes, I can see why you would take that stand.
Don't fret about it, you're not competition.
On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: Yes it is. The sender address has to specify a mailbox. "A mailbox
receives mail." (RFC 2822, address spec.) It does not because the
domain this_newsgroup.com is not registered. And if anyone would
register this_newsgroup.com in the future he would be spammed because
you abused the domain name and allowed a simple harvester to get it.
What do you suggest I do? Remove the .com?
--
All the best,
NOYB
On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: Yes, you are obliged to that by the Terms of Use of the ISP that
you accepted. People have the right to send complaint about such
abuse to your ISP if you don't comply. It is up to the ISP how
to treat such cases.
You're not.
Yes I am, it only includes my nickname, and all the headers in my
postings specify mailboxes of which I am the owner. Yours do not.
Ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff.
And you are unnecessarily crossposting (without Followup-To) again.
I think you're just a little crybaby who can't have a debate without crying
foul. Get a life.
--
All the best,
NOYB
"NOYB" <reply_to_me@this_newsgroup.com> wrote:
Any browser that's designed to be unforgiving will be gone sooner or later.
Curious thing to say, given that historically browsers (including
Microsoft's) have become more strict about hewing to the standards, not
less. If things continue to evolve in that manner -- and there's no
evidence that they won't -- then it's the forgiving browsers that you
can wave a (long) goodbye to.
--
Joel.
NOYB wrote: On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: Yes it is. The sender address has to specify a mailbox. "A mailbox
receives mail." (RFC 2822, address spec.) It does not because the
domain this_newsgroup.com is not registered. And if anyone would
register this_newsgroup.com in the future he would be spammed because
you abused the domain name and allowed a simple harvester to get it.
What do you suggest I do? Remove the .com?
Of course not, that would not specify a mailbox either, would it?
As already said, ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff. and
<17****************@PointedEars.de> for details.
Please use private e-mail for further questions on the matter,
it is off-topic here and I don't know an appropriate newsgroup
within the Big8.
PointedEars
NOYB wrote: On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: Yes it is. The sender address has to specify a mailbox. "A mailbox
receives mail." (RFC 2822, address spec.) It does not because the
domain this_newsgroup.com is not registered. And if anyone would
register this_newsgroup.com in the future he would be spammed because
you abused the domain name and allowed a simple harvester to get it.
What do you suggest I do? Remove the .com?
Of course not, that would not specify a mailbox either, would it?
As already said, ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff. for
details.
Please use private e-mail for further questions on the matter,
it is off-topic here and I don't know an appropriate newsgroup
within the Big8.
PointedEars, F'up2 poster
On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: Of course not, that would not specify a mailbox either, would it?
As already said, ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff. and
<17****************@PointedEars.de> for details.
Please use private e-mail for further questions on the matter,
it is off-topic here and I don't know an appropriate newsgroup
within the Big8.
I was on topic until you started threatening to report me for abuse. OK I
set up a yahoo account. How's that? I also never crossposted to more than
three newsgroups. I'm allowed six. Anything else you can POSSIBLY complain
about? So now can we can get back to the discussion you were unable to win,
so you changed the subject?
Bellsouth Newsgroup Abuse Policy
In general, newsgroup abuse includes the following:
posting commercial advertisements
posting off-topic
posting to more than 6 newsgroups at a time
posts with a URL advertising a website
flooding: posting excessive numbers of articles to make it difficult to find
legitimate posts
binary bombing: flooding a newsgroup with binaries that does not allow
binary posts
Violations of these policies could result in being banned from newsgroups
and may result in immediate cancellation of service.
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All the best,
Keter Pardes
(reply to me here I don't read my email)
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: NOYB wrote:
On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote:
Yes it is. The sender address has to specify a mailbox. "A mailbox
receives mail." (RFC 2822, address spec.) It does not because the
domain this_newsgroup.com is not registered. And if anyone would
register this_newsgroup.com in the future he would be spammed because
you abused the domain name and allowed a simple harvester to get it.
What do you suggest I do? Remove the .com?
Of course not, that would not specify a mailbox either, would it?
Actually, it would. It just wouldn't specify a mailbox that *you* can
spam with email, thats all and nothing more.
As already said, ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff. for
details.
Please use private e-mail for further questions on the matter,
it is off-topic here and I don't know an appropriate newsgroup
within the Big8.
90% of your posts here in clj are off-topic since you spend more time
talking about irrelevant issues such as an address instead of the
on-topic discussion of J/Javascript.
Ask in Usenet, get replied to in Usenet. What is so hard about that for
you to understad?
--
Randy
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq & newsgroup weekly
Keter Pardes wrote: On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote:
Of course not, that would not specify a mailbox either, would it?
As already said, ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff. and
<17****************@PointedEars.de> for details.
Please use private e-mail for further questions on the matter,
it is off-topic here and I don't know an appropriate newsgroup
within the Big8.
I was on topic until you started threatening to report me for abuse.
Ignore him as he thinks he is some kind of Usenet cop that should run
around enforcing his own ideas/beliefs as the "law". As for my own TOS
for Usenet, they actually *TELL ME* to use an invalid address to cut
down on spam.
Everytime he tells me "you have been warned", he probably spams Comcast
cable wanting them to "act against me" for doing precisely what they
tell me to do.
He needs to grow up, develop some maturity and common sense, emerge from
puberty and come back.
--
Randy
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq & newsgroup weekly
Keter Pardes wrote: On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote: Of course not, that would not specify a mailbox either, would it?
As already said, ref. <17****************@PointedEars.de> ff. and
<17****************@PointedEars.de> for details.
Please use private e-mail for further questions on the matter,
it is off-topic here and I don't know an appropriate newsgroup
within the Big8.
I was on topic until you started threatening to report me for abuse.
1. I posted on-topic, with some additional side note when I noticed that
something with a posting was technically wrong. It was not me who
replied only to that side note, it was you!
2. I did not threaten you, I had you informed! If you felt threatened
by that, you eventually realized that something was wrong with your
postings. Good so. Let's say you have a strange way to show your
thankfulness ...
OK I set up a yahoo account. How's that?
Much better.
I also never crossposted to more than three newsgroups. I'm allowed six.
What you are allowed to and what is reasonable is a different matter.
It is not reasonable to deliberately crosspost to newsgroup where a
discussion would be off-topic other than try to redirect the discussion
using Followup-To while contributing to the discussion. You are allowed
to the mentioned crosspost because there are cases in which it may be
required as the previous poster crossposted wrong and you want to set
Followup-To to the only on-topic group in the list or on the almost
improbable occasion that a posting is indeed on-topic in six newsgroups.
Anything else you can POSSIBLY complain about?
Never to you, and not now.
So now can we can get back to the discussion you were unable to win,
You must be kidding. I merely emphasized the mentioned disadvantages of
not Valid code, there was no argument to win because the statement replied
to was wrong.
so you changed the subject?
No, *I* did not change the subject! You really want to re-read the
discussion.
EOD for me now, I have wasted enough time on you.
PointedEars
JRS: In article <Uu******************@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, dated
Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:52:08, seen in news:comp.lang.javascript, NOYB
<reply_to_me@this_newsgroup.com> posted :
On 17-Jul-2005, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <Po*********@web.de> wrote:
NOYB <reply_to_me@this_newsgroup.com> wrote:
Your sender information is forged which is a violation of Internet
standards
(including, but not limited to, domain abuse) and the Terms of Use of your
provider (bellsouth.net [1]) as well as a disregard of Netiquette.
What do you mean by that? Nothing is forged. Are you saying I have to use my
real name and email address on USENET. That's ridiculous. You're not.
You don't mean that. "You" can only refer to him, and he is ridiculous.
You can use whatever name you like - but those who are ashamed of their
identity or use silly nicknames consequently get diminished respect -
and you are allowed to use any address that you are entitled to use -
one you own, or one you have explicit permission to use for the purpose.
No-one other than a control freak objects to an address used without
permission if that address is such that only a fool or a spam collector
would use.
Moreover, the infant Lahn holds peculiar views on cross-posting. He is
of course entitled to do so; but not to attempt to force them on others,
except in newsgroups where he is a duly appointed polizei-kommissar.
There is in Usenet no obligation to set a single follow-up to a cross-
post; indeed, it is frequently inappropriate to do so.
--
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Web <URL:http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html> -> Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
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