how to get back the target

[john woo]

Hi

I'm stuck on setting a target for current page. say, the following
function is called

function Call_OnClick(index, nValue, PageID, TargetFrameID)
{
document.InputForm.PAGEID.value = PageID;
if ( TargetFrameID != null )
document.InputForm.target = '_new';
document.InputForm.submit();
}

to open another broswer. after this, the parent GUI doesn't display all
the component, few of bottons are gone. without exacuting the above
function, all are fine. I think it's the target setting problem (all
pages are governed by controller in this project).

Can anyone tell about this issue?

--
Thanks
John
Toronto

[Jc]

john woo wrote:

Hi

I'm stuck on setting a target for current page. say, the following
function is called

function Call_OnClick(index, nValue, PageID, TargetFrameID)
{
document.InputForm.PAGEID.value = PageID;
if ( TargetFrameID != null )
document.InputForm.target = '_new';
document.InputForm.submit();
}

to open another broswer. after this, the parent GUI doesn't display all
the component, few of bottons are gone. without exacuting the above
function, all are fine. I think it's the target setting problem (all
pages are governed by controller in this project).

Can anyone tell about this issue?

--
Thanks
John
Toronto

How is the "parent GUI" being displayed? Is a frameset being used?
There's not enough information given for me determine why your parent
GUI isn't showing up in the new page (I think that is what you are
expecting), but if it isn't, it is because whatever URL you are
submitting to isn't returning what you expect (if your page is
generated server-side), or whatever code you are expecting to run to
generate your "parent GUI" isn't being executed on this new page.

Do you mean to use "_blank" instead of "_new"? AFAIK, "_new" doesn't
have any special meaning, and will simply open up a new window named
"_new", unless a window with a name of "_new" already exists, in which
case it will be used as the form target.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ies/target.asp

[David Dorward]

Jc wrote:

Do you mean to use "_blank" instead of "_new"? AFAIK, "_new" doesn't
have any special meaning

_new isn't allowed as a target name and causes browsers to perform error
recovery. Some may treat it as _blank, some may treat it as a name with no
special features.

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[john woo]

It's embeded inside a JSP. a controller handles all the URL. the parent
GUI built in a basic template, which provides a buttons bar. the above
function

document.InputForm.target = '_new';
document.InputForm.submit();

let the controler knows a new page requested and the
controler(server-side,servlet server engine) pops up another JSP
(DHTML, with java-code,HTML and javascript).

after this pop up, it seemed the controler lose some info about the
parent GUI, didn't sent back the buttons on the bar.

without executing the above function, all are fine

[Jc]

john woo wrote:

It's embeded inside a JSP. a controller handles all the URL. the parent
GUI built in a basic template, which provides a buttons bar. the above
function

document.InputForm.target = '_new';
document.InputForm.submit();

let the controler knows a new page requested and the
controler(server-side,servlet server engine) pops up another JSP
(DHTML, with java-code,HTML and javascript).

after this pop up, it seemed the controler lose some info about the
parent GUI, didn't sent back the buttons on the bar.

without executing the above function, all are fine

It sounds like your form needs to send some more info back to your
controller, perhaps there is some state info it needs that isn't being
posted back? Some URL parameters perhaps? You can add hidden inputs to
include this information in the popup request to the server. Also,
don't forget to change '_new' to '_blank', which may or may not be part
of the problem.

[john woo]

Thanks.

but what's the info I need?
and how to send back to the control (I just know how to forward tothe
next page by submitting, this NEXT page is controller/configured by
main frame controller)?

I've tried replace '_new' with '_blank', but the controller couldn't
regconize it. Plus, this GUI is a small part in the whole GUI, I don't
even the whole architect.

[Jc]

john woo wrote:

but what's the info I need?
and how to send back to the control (I just know how to forward tothe
next page by submitting, this NEXT page is controller/configured by
main frame controller)?

I have no idea what the controller needs to display the GUI properly,
I'm just guessing that maybe it needs additional parameters or state
info passed to it. You could get an idea by looking at the URL
parameters (if any) on the main page that is spawning the popup.

As I mentioned in my last post, one way to send additional get/post
parameters is to use a hidden input, refer to your favorite HTML
documentation.

I'm not familiar with jsp, perhaps you should ask this question in a
java related group, as it is not really a javascript question/problem.

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

David Dorward wrote:

Jc wrote:

Do you mean to use "_blank" instead of "_new"? AFAIK, "_new" doesn't
have any special meaning
_new isn't allowed as a target name

Pardon?
and causes browsers to perform error recovery.
Which browser is that badly b0rken that it does not allow for any target
name?
Some may treat it as _blank,
Again, which browsers are you talking about?
some may treat it as a name with no special features.

Which is correct, and I can see no harm in that. What's your point, anyway?
PointedEars

[David Dorward]

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

David Dorward wrote:

Jc wrote:

Do you mean to use "_blank" instead of "_new"? AFAIK, "_new" doesn't
have any special meaning

_new isn't allowed as a target name

Pardon?

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.16

and causes browsers to perform error recovery.

Which browser is that badly b0rken that it does not allow for any target
name?

How can a browser be broken if it can't cope with a document including
something expressly forbidden? And which bit of "error recovery" did you
miss anyway?

some may treat it as a name with no special features.

Which is correct

No it isn't, the browser is supposed to ignore it altogether.

--
David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

David Dorward wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

David Dorward wrote:

Jc wrote:
Do you mean to use "_blank" instead of "_new"? AFAIK, "_new" doesn't
have any special meaning
_new isn't allowed as a target name

Pardon?

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.16

Hmmm, yes, you're right. However, the HTML 4.01 Transitional DTD says

| <!ENTITY % FrameTarget "CDATA" -- render in this frame -->
| [...]
| target %FrameTarget; #IMPLIED -- render in this frame --

It appears that many (most?) UA vendors never read or took heed of that
part of the specification, only of the DTD. Unfortunately , "_new" is
perfectly valid CDATA and so straightforward markup validation does not
show it as an error. What a junk! -- Why did they not specify

<!ENTITY % SpecialTarget "_blank|_self|_parent|_top" -- special targets -->
<!ENTITY % FrameTarget "%SpecialTarget; | NAME" -- render in this frame -->

in the first place? :-(

and causes browsers to perform error recovery.

Which browser is that badly b0rken that it does not allow for any target
name?

How can a browser be broken if it can't cope with a document including
something expressly forbidden? And which bit of "error recovery" did you
miss anyway?

ACK, ACK. Although switched from "_new" to "_blank" (and then often from
"_blank" to no `target' attribute) long ago, apparently I missed that part
all the years, too. Thank you very much for pointing out!

some may treat it as a name with no special features.

Which is correct

No it isn't, the browser is supposed to ignore it altogether.

ACK, ACK. However, many (most?) do not. But I agree that we should not
depend on that.
PointedEars
--
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[David Dorward]

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.16
Hmmm, yes, you're right. However, the HTML 4.01 Transitional DTD says

DTDs can only express certain constraints, you have to read the prose for
any specification.
<!ENTITY % SpecialTarget "_blank|_self|_parent|_top" -- special targets
--> <!ENTITY % FrameTarget "%SpecialTarget; | NAME" -- render in this
frame -->

So "_blank", "_self", "_parent", "_top" OR a NAME token ... which would
include "_new"? :)

--
David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

David Dorward wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.16 Hmmm, yes, you're right. However, the HTML 4.01 Transitional DTD says

DTDs can only express certain constraints, you have to read the prose for
any specification.

I already knew that, you should at least bother to try to read and
understand what I wrote.

<!ENTITY % SpecialTarget "_blank|_self|_parent|_top" -- special targets
--> <!ENTITY % FrameTarget "%SpecialTarget; | NAME" -- render in this
frame -->

So "_blank", "_self", "_parent", "_top" OR a NAME token ...

Yes.
which would include "_new"? :)

No. NAME tokens, in contrast to CDATA tokens, must begin with a
letter which in combination with the other values would both apply
to the specification's prose and allow for markup validation against
forbidden values, in contrast to the current DTD. For consistency,
the `name' attribute of `frame' elements should then be of type NAME,
too.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.2>
PointedEars