pop-up status bar/Firefox

[Frances Del Rio]

on pop-up, which I have scripted to not show status bar, status bar
still shows up in Firefox. Any way to get Firefox to open pop-ups w/o
status bar at the bottom? thank you.. Frances

[kaeli]

In article <42**********@x-privat.org>, fd***@yahoo.com enlightened us
with...

on pop-up, which I have scripted to not show status bar, status bar
still shows up in Firefox. Any way to get Firefox to open pop-ups w/o
status bar at the bottom? thank you.. Frances

Sure. You already did.
Firefox just lets us specify that we don't want you to do such a thing.
If you want to allow it in YOUR browser:

Tools -> Options -> Web Features
Advanced (button)
Allow scripts to:
(uncheck) hide status bar

You can't force it in MY browser.

/ thank you firefox!

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[Frances Del Rio]

kaeli wrote:

In article <42**********@x-privat.org>, fd***@yahoo.com enlightened us
with...

on pop-up, which I have scripted to not show status bar, status bar
still shows up in Firefox. Any way to get Firefox to open pop-ups w/o
status bar at the bottom? thank you.. Frances

Sure. You already did.
Firefox just lets us specify that we don't want you to do such a thing.
If you want to allow it in YOUR browser:

Tools -> Options -> Web Features
Advanced (button)
Allow scripts to:
(uncheck) hide status bar

You can't force it in MY browser.

/ thank you firefox!

thank you kaeli!

I know pop-ups have become "politically incorrect" in this
newsgroup...;) however, this is not for me personally, but at work, for
our very demanding corporate clients (for whom we do webcasts, which are
seen/heard mostly internally by their employees..)

thanks again.. Frances

[kaeli]

In article <42**********@newsgate.x-privat.org>, fd***@yahoo.com enlightened
us with...

thank you kaeli!

Welcome!
I know pop-ups have become "politically incorrect" in this
newsgroup...;) however, this is not for me personally, but at work, for
our very demanding corporate clients (for whom we do webcasts, which are
seen/heard mostly internally by their employees..)

Always remember to specify on these groups if your stuff is for an intranet
application.
There is more leeway for putzing with things on an intranet, since you
usually know a lot more about your clients than on the WWW.

The comments I posted stand, however -- you still can't force it in Firefox.
Make your clients use MSIE like everyone else. LOL
(or just put a notice about it on your stuff and let them enable status
hiding if they don't want to see the status bar)

If they're REALLY dumb and can't figure these things out, use a div that
mimics a window instead of an actual window object.

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[Frances Del Rio]

kaeli wrote:

In article <42**********@newsgate.x-privat.org>, fd***@yahoo.com enlightened
us with...

thank you kaeli!

Welcome!

I know pop-ups have become "politically incorrect" in this
newsgroup...;) however, this is not for me personally, but at work, for
our very demanding corporate clients (for whom we do webcasts, which are
seen/heard mostly internally by their employees..)

Always remember to specify on these groups if your stuff is for an intranet
application.
There is more leeway for putzing with things on an intranet, since you
usually know a lot more about your clients than on the WWW.

The comments I posted stand, however -- you still can't force it in Firefox.
Make your clients use MSIE like everyone else. LOL
(or just put a notice about it on your stuff and let them enable status
hiding if they don't want to see the status bar)

If they're REALLY dumb and can't figure these things out, use a div that
mimics a window instead of an actual window object.

thank you again, kaeli.. technically they're not really intranets..
some of them are watched (or listened to, if they're audio-only) by
people from a bunch of countries simultaneously.. until recently we
were supporting only IE, but we just started supporting Netscape,
Mozilla and FF, so have been busy re-coding a lot of stuff.. this
window.status thing is a pain, you know, b/c I'm sure you know when you
mouse over a link it puts code for link in status bar and well, it shows
long string of javascript code and stuff... so: more coding I guess...
(onmouseover="window.status=..." etc..) thanks again..

Frances

[kaeli]

In article <42**********@newsgate.x-privat.org>, fd***@yahoo.com enlightened
us with...

but we just started supporting Netscape,
Mozilla and FF, so have been busy re-coding a lot of stuff.. this
window.status thing is a pain, you know, b/c I'm sure you know when you
mouse over a link it puts code for link in status bar and well, it shows
long string of javascript code and stuff... so: more coding I guess...
(onmouseover="window.status=..." etc..) thanks again..

LOL
Yeah, just don't forget that firefox can turn that off, too. ;)
I have changing status text disabled because some sites use it to obfuscate
where links are actually going.

To fix this, stop coding javascript in href in links (don't fix a problem by
adding yet more problems with mouseovers)! That's not what href should be
used for, anyway.

<a href="somenoscriptpage.html" onClick="theScriptStuff();return false;">link
</a>

There, now your script won't show up in the status bar.

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[Martin Bialasinski]

Frances Del Rio <fd***@yahoo.com> wrote:

you know when you mouse over a link it puts code for link in status
bar and well, it shows long string of javascript code and
stuff... so:

Yes. So what? Does it do any harm? Is this really worth your time?

Bye,
Martin

[Frances Del Rio]

Martin Bialasinski wrote:

Frances Del Rio <fd***@yahoo.com> wrote:

you know when you mouse over a link it puts code for link in status
bar and well, it shows long string of javascript code and
stuff... so:

Yes. So what? Does it do any harm? Is this really worth your time?

Bye,
Martin

does it matter why I want to do what I want to do? it just looks messy,
when a long string of code that means nothing to user shows up down
there, is all...

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Frances Del Rio wrote:

Martin Bialasinski wrote:

Frances Del Rio <fd***@yahoo.com> wrote:

you know when you mouse over a link it puts code for link in status
bar and well, it shows long string of javascript code and
stuff... so: Yes. So what? Does it do any harm? Is this really worth your time?

And, more important: Is it really worth our time?
does it matter why I want to do what I want to do? [...]

Yes, of course it does. Stupid question.
PointedEars
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Im Anfang war das Wort. Und das Wort war Content-Type: text/plain.

[RobG]

Frances Del Rio wrote:

Martin Bialasinski wrote:

Frances Del Rio <fd***@yahoo.com> wrote:

you know when you mouse over a link it puts code for link in status
bar and well, it shows long string of javascript code and
stuff... so:

Yes. So what? Does it do any harm? Is this really worth your time?

Bye,
Martin

does it matter why I want to do what I want to do? it just looks messy,
when a long string of code that means nothing to user shows up down
there, is all...

But it does mean something to many users. I like to be told that a
click will open a link in a new window (as Safari tells me) or that a
link will run some JavaScript (as many browsers tell me).

The real issues are: is it practical to remove such functionality
from all users for all browsers in all cases, and whether doing so
(if it is possible) actually provides a benefit to the users.

I would think the answer to both is 'no', but you may do (or attempt
to do) whatever you wish.
--
Rob

[Grant Wagner]

"Frances Del Rio" <fd***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42**********@newsgate.x-privat.org...

kaeli wrote:

The comments I posted stand, however -- you still can't force it in
Firefox. Make your clients use MSIE like everyone else. LOL
... until recently we were supporting only IE ...

I suppose someone should point out that IE as configured in Windows XP
Service Pack 2 also creates new windows with the status bar on by
default and the user has to explicitly find and disable this feature
(Tools > Internet Options > Security tab > choose zone > Custom Level... Miscellaneous > Allow script-initiated windows without size or

position constraints). As you can see, the manner in which you disable
this is neither easy to find, nor particularly intuitive considering
that including a status bar doesn't seem to be either a "size" or a
"position" constraint.

So even if all you ever supported was Internet Explorer, you would still
have this "problem". In short, a Web browser you have no control over is
not exactly the best place to host an application you want to have a
feature-rich UI. If you want to host your application in a Web browser
you have no control over, you will have to learn to live with the
limitations it introduces.

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