ECMAScript V4.0

[Tom]

Is there any more work being done on this - I scoured the ECMA site
but there appears to be no work being done on it.
Or is it just my searching technique...

[Martin Honnen]

Tom wrote:

Is there any more work being done on this - I scoured the ECMA site
but there appears to be no work being done on it.

I can't tell for sure, you would need to ask a member of the ECMA
working group, but clearly I see two things preventing progress, one
being that AOL gave up on Netscape meaning that probably those working
at Netscape on ECMAScript edition 4 and JavaScript 2.0 were fired, and
the other being that MS went ahead and developed and implemented
JScript.NET without there being a standard so taking those two together
there might be no people left at Netscape and MS working on a standard.

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Martin Honnen
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[Tom Potts]

Pity - it would be brilliant to see some of the proposed features
(Classes!!) actually implemented.
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[Richard Cornford]

Tom Potts wrote:

Pity - it would be brilliant to see some of the proposed
features (Classes!!) actually implemented.

The best part of 4 years after the publication of the final version of
ECMA 262 3rd edition we are just getting to the point where the last of
the 2nd edition browsers are dropping out of use and it might be
reasonable to start using features introduced in the 3rd edition on
public web sites. If a new version was published tomorrow it would
probably be another 4 years before it was safe to use it on the
Internet.

Personally I don't see the point in most of the proposed changes for
version 4. There are already plenty of class-based languages (and plenty
of people familiar with their use) for all of the application writing
that is needed. And any pattern form a class-based language can already
be implemented in javascript for the effort of writing the code.

Richard.

[Tom Potts]

There are some fantastic languages about but not running in the browser!
I am working on several projects to provide the 'office' in the browser
(with a lite-server backend) and while JavaScript can achieve the end
result it just needs a little tidy up.
I already manage my e-mail,calander, databases and documentation thru
the browser - if I could do all my development as well......
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[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Martin Honnen wrote:

Tom wrote:

Is there any more work being done on this - I scoured the ECMA site
but there appears to be no work being done on it.

I can't tell for sure, you would need to ask a member of the ECMA
working group, but clearly I see two things preventing progress, one
being that AOL gave up on Netscape meaning that probably those working
at Netscape on ECMAScript edition 4 and JavaScript 2.0 were fired, and
the other being that MS went ahead and developed and implemented
JScript.NET without there being a standard so taking those two together
there might be no people left at Netscape and MS working on a standard.

However, there is still a chance that mozilla.org people will/can push the
issue as the Mozilla Organization has recently become an ECMA member after
Netscape (had to?) quit. There should be a bug in Bugzilla to vote for,
if there is not, a new bug could be filed against this issue.
PointedEars
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[Tom]

I've sent a request to ECMA for some clarification. I'll let you know what happens.
I'll also see if I can find out from mozilla if theres anything going on there.
Tom