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Hi,
I've just spent a day writing a page which has expandable menus using layers
and I have come to find that layers overlap if the user has their browser
text-size settings set to a larger than normal size. At the moment
adjusting the text size (in the View menu) with IE will not change the text
so IE never displays overlapping layers, but Netscape does. However, this
is just a temporary fix and not a solution because I do want the user to be
able to view the text as large as they need.

the page is here: http://www.skiwest.com/dev/welcome.htm
ignore the top-left frame and right frame... they are from the old design.
Also, I've been told repeatedly that frames are BAD so I'm thinking of using
server side scripting to add the expandable/collapsable menu to each page.

I get the impression that CSS can help solve my problem with the text size
of the menu. If anyone could give me some direction of what I should be
doing, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Billy
Jul 20 '05 #1
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"Billy" <bi***@jimtown.org> wrote:
I think I took the wrong approach
You certainly did, from the page:
Your browser does not support the JavaScript Language
Yes it does.
so many of the advanced features at this site will be unavailable to you. ie.
Yawn.
shopping cart, navagation frame.
Good riddance.
Please download a newer browser.
Please learn how to code properly.
Your prowser does not support frames
Yes it does.
so the navagation frame will not be available
to you.
Oh bother.
Please download a newer browser.


Take a flying hike, my browser is less than a few months old, bye.

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Jul 20 '05 #2

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The newbie dares to actually answer a question instead of asking them.

In article <10*************@corp.supernews.com>,
Billy <bi***@jimtown.org> wrote:
Hi,
I've just spent a day writing a page which has expandable menus using layers
and I have come to find that layers overlap if the user has their browser
text-size settings set to a larger than normal size.
This is the web. You should never assume such a thing as "normal
size" exists, particularly in relation to fonts.
the page is here: http://www.skiwest.com/dev/welcome.htm Also, I've been told repeatedly that frames are BAD so I'm thinking of using
server side scripting to add the expandable/collapsable menu to each page.
Good, because frames are BAD. 8) If nothing else, a simple
server-side include for a file containing your menu code might solve
your problem.
I get the impression that CSS can help solve my problem with the text size
of the menu. If anyone could give me some direction of what I should be
doing, I'd greatly appreciate it.


From the very brief time I've been here, the first suggestion will
probably be to use relative font sizes (em or % instead of pt). I'd
suggest defining your font sizes, widths, and positions in em instead
of . . . . Hey, you don't have any units on your top or widths! You
can't do that! (Well, you can, but it's not valid.)

Okay, step one (as I forgot yesterday) is validate your CSS
(http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/) and HTML
(http://validator.w3.org). As you'll see, in addition to the above,
"orange" is not part of the CSS standard.

Hope that helps. I'm sure others will chime in if some of my
suggestions are wrong.

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"As I was walking up the stair / I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today / I wish, I wish he'd stay away.
-- Hughes Mearns, _The Psychoed_
Jul 20 '05 #3

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> You certainly did, from the page:
Your browser does not support the JavaScript Language
Please download a newer browser.


Take a flying hike, my browser is less than a few months old, bye.


Which browser and version are you using??? I haven't seen any errors like
this on Netscape 7.1 or IE 6.0
I would like to download what ever you are using because it seems to be
catching things my browsers are not.

Billy
Jul 20 '05 #4

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In article <10*************@corp.supernews.com>, bi***@jimtown.org
enlightened us with...
You certainly did, from the page:
Your browser does not support the JavaScript Language
Please download a newer browser.


Take a flying hike, my browser is less than a few months old, bye.


Which browser and version are you using??? I haven't seen any errors like
this on Netscape 7.1 or IE 6.0
I would like to download what ever you are using because it seems to be
catching things my browsers are not.


I see those messages when I use Opera 7, which supports them all.

Stop using browser detection or whatever you're doing. There are many,
many more browsers out there besides IE and Netscape. Opera, Mozilla,
Konqueror (unix), Safari (mac)...

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Jul 20 '05 #5

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In article <10*************@corp.supernews.com>, bi***@jimtown.org
enlightened us with...
You certainly did, from the page:
Your browser does not support the JavaScript Language
Please download a newer browser.


Take a flying hike, my browser is less than a few months old, bye.


Which browser and version are you using??? I haven't seen any errors like
this on Netscape 7.1 or IE 6.0
I would like to download what ever you are using because it seems to be
catching things my browsers are not.

Billy


Oh, I get that message in NN7.1, too.
Go figure.

IE6 didn't.

Gee, good thing I have IE. Not that I usually USE it.
If I were on a Mac or a unix box, I'd be screwed, eh? *g*

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~kaeli~
A man needs a mistress... just to break the monogamy.
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace

Jul 20 '05 #6

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In article <10*************@corp.supernews.com>, bi***@jimtown.org
enlightened us with...
Hi,
I've just spent a day writing a page which has expandable menus using layers
and I have come to find that layers overlap if the user has their browser
text-size settings set to a larger than normal size. At the moment
adjusting the text size (in the View menu) with IE will not change the text
so IE never displays overlapping layers, but Netscape does. However, this
is just a temporary fix and not a solution because I do want the user to be
able to view the text as large as they need.

the page is here: http://www.skiwest.com/dev/welcome.htm


Where's the menu?
I don't see a menu, even in IE.
Just some text. When I click on the link, it opens a frameset inside the
frameset. I'm sure that wasn't what you wanted.

Your browser must meet the folowing requirements
Netscape Communicator 4.0+ or
Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0+
^^^^^
The mark of someone who hasn't been taught the right way to code
yet...or how to use a spell-checker :)

Why reinvent the wheel?
If you want a nice menu, get one from dynamicdrive.com. They're usually
well-tested over there, too.
I use HVMenu for one of my applications. I like it.

TTFN

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Hey, if you got it flaunt it! If you don't stare at someone
who does. Just don't lick the TV screen, it leaves streaks.
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http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace

Jul 20 '05 #7

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DU
Billy wrote:
Hi,
I've just spent a day writing a page which has expandable menus using layers
and I have come to find that layers overlap if the user has their browser
text-size settings set to a larger than normal size. At the moment
adjusting the text size (in the View menu) with IE will not change the text
so IE never displays overlapping layers, but Netscape does. However, this
is just a temporary fix and not a solution because I do want the user to be
able to view the text as large as they need.

the page is here: http://www.skiwest.com/dev/welcome.htm
ignore the top-left frame and right frame... they are from the old design.
Also, I've been told repeatedly that frames are BAD so I'm thinking of using
server side scripting to add the expandable/collapsable menu to each page.

I get the impression that CSS can help solve my problem with the text size
of the menu. If anyone could give me some direction of what I should be
doing, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Billy


I can't believe this. You've started 3 threads in 2 newsgroups on this.
You've fragmented the discussion and the help on your page in 3
different threads instead of maintaining it in 1 newsgroup and in 1 thread.

You're multi-posting. Man, you really make the task of trying to help
you more difficult. You make others in another newsgroup repeat what
some already told you in another newsgroup.

DU
Jul 20 '05 #8

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