Problems with largeish (9k) stylesheets?

[David Walker]

Hi
Has anyone had any problems with large (this one is 9k) stylesheets not
loading from the webserver? Everything works fine on my development
computer, but when I upload it to the server it will eventually run on the
server is not serving the stylesheet. All links are definately correct
because the smaller stylesheets load. This large stylesheet though if I try
to view it on its own in the browser window comes up blank. Its file size
is still 9k though, as it should be. Is this a know problem? I really
don't want to split it into several css files if I don't need to - are there
any other ways to make it work? The main server (the one that doesn't work)
is running ISS on Win2000, my development server is ISS on WinXP Pro. The
site in question is http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/, and the
stylesheet that isn't loading is
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/cssall.css. I can get settings
changed on the main server if necessary, but not unless it is a known,
guaranteed to work solution and you can describe it fully to me.

Any ideas appreciated though.

David

[David Dorward]

David Walker wrote:

the stylesheet that isn't loading is
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/cssall.css.

I just downloaded it and tried to open it in a text editor. Whatever the
file contains, it isn't text/*. Where its getting trashed I don't know, try
examining the file on the server. That might help you track down if the
problem is caused during the upload or the download.

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[Boyd Pearson]

In article <be**********@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
wb*********@hotmail.com says...

Hi
Has anyone had any problems with large (this one is 9k) stylesheets not
loading from the webserver? Everything works fine on my development
computer, but when I upload it to the server it will eventually run on the
server is not serving the stylesheet. All links are definately correct
because the smaller stylesheets load. This large stylesheet though if I try
to view it on its own in the browser window comes up blank. Its file size
is still 9k though, as it should be. Is this a know problem? I really
don't want to split it into several css files if I don't need to - are there
any other ways to make it work? The main server (the one that doesn't work)
is running ISS on Win2000, my development server is ISS on WinXP Pro. The
site in question is http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/, and the
stylesheet that isn't loading is
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/cssall.css. I can get settings
changed on the main server if necessary, but not unless it is a known,
guaranteed to work solution and you can describe it fully to me.

Any ideas appreciated though.

David

Try fixing the errors in it.

P, UL, OL, LI, DIV {
color: black;
font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font: Verdana; /*??????*/
}

..helpmark {
font-family: Verdana;
color: #FFFFFF;
font-style: normal;
text-decoration : none;
cursor: help ;
font-size: 12pt;
font-weight: bold;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none?, Direction=?, Strength=?) /*??????*/
}

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Dedicated to Clark Ashton Smith
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[David Walker]

> > the stylesheet that isn't loading is

http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/cssall.css.
I just downloaded it and tried to open it in a text editor. Whatever the
file contains, it isn't text/*. Where its getting trashed I don't know,

try examining the file on the server. That might help you track down if the
problem is caused during the upload or the download.

Ah yeah. I downloaded back from the server via FTP, and the file is blank
as it shows when downloaded normally. Its working now, although there does
seem to be something odd somewhere thats causing the uploads to corrupt
because there are other files that have done it too.

Thanks for the pointer though, I do now know what caused it and have fixed
it.

By the way, now its working if anyone would like to test it for me that'd be
great:
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/
All I need to know is if theres any browsers it's particularly broken in.
Hopefully it shouldn't be, but i've ran out of browsers that i've got I can
test it in.
Thanks a lot

David

[PeterMcC]

Jacqui or (maybe) Pete wrote:

In article <be**********@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
wb*********@hotmail.com says...

the stylesheet that isn't loading is
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/cssall.css.

I just downloaded it and tried to open it in a text editor.
Whatever the file contains, it isn't text/*. Where its getting
trashed I don't know, ...

Thanks for the pointer though, I do now know what caused it and have
fixed it.

By the way, now its working if anyone would like to test it for me
that'd be great:
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/subaqua/
All I need to know is if theres any browsers it's particularly
broken in.

...
1024x768/15"LDC/Moz1.5a/XP the left menu slides off the page at narrow
window sizes & can't be retreived with the scroll bar (which is an
effect I haven't seen before!).

Same in Opera 7.2b.

Same in IE6!

Looks good apart from that...

It's the centering by negative margin trick - keeps the page centered by
shifting the left-hand edge of the div, in this case, 406px to the left of
the middle of the window. As the div is 812px wide, the div stays centered -
except when the window is less than 812px. In a 600px window, the left hand
edge is going to be 106px off the left hand side of the window.

Shame, it's a nice trick - margin:auto ought to do it but there are problems
with IE

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[David Walker]

> It's the centering by negative margin trick - keeps the page centered by

shifting the left-hand edge of the div, in this case, 406px to the left of
the middle of the window. As the div is 812px wide, the div stays centered - except when the window is less than 812px. In a 600px window, the left hand edge is going to be 106px off the left hand side of the window.

Shame, it's a nice trick - margin:auto ought to do it but there are problems with IE

Yeah. I'll have a look and see what else I can come up with - either find
an alternative centering method or try to either reduce the effect or fix
that one. I'll see what I can come up with.

David

[Jacqui or (maybe) Pete]

In article <be**********@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
wb*********@hotmail.com says...

It's the centering by negative margin trick - keeps the page centered by
shifting the left-hand edge of the div, in this case, 406px to the left of
the middle of the window. As the div is 812px wide, the div stays

centered -

except when the window is less than 812px. In a 600px window, the left

hand

edge is going to be 106px off the left hand side of the window.

Shame, it's a nice trick - margin:auto ought to do it but there are

problems

with IE

Yeah. I'll have a look and see what else I can come up with - either find
an alternative centering method or try to either reduce the effect or fix
that one. I'll see what I can come up with.

Just use margin:auto. Works fine in modern browsers (IE6+) and nothing
much is lost in old browsers.

If you really care about them then many older browsers have a bug where
they'll center a div if the surrounding div (or <body>) has 'text-
align:center;' Might be worth a try, see:

http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/center1.html

for details.

[David Walker]

> Just use margin:auto. Works fine in modern browsers (IE6+) and nothing

much is lost in old browsers.

Using that, it fixes it in IE6 and IE5, Mozilla is no different to before
(can scroll right, but not left), and Opera won't let me scroll either way
when the window is narrow, which is just odd!

David

[David Walker]

> Using that, it fixes it in IE6 and IE5, Mozilla is no different to before

(can scroll right, but not left), and Opera won't let me scroll either way
when the window is narrow, which is just odd!

Little correction: Opera does work properly, like IE, and its just Mozilla
that won't scroll left.

By the way, this won't show up on the web address I posted yet, so you can't
try it for now.

David

[Kris]

In article <be**********@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
"David Walker" <wb*********@hotmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone had any problems with large (this one is 9k) stylesheets

My stylesheet is bigger than yours. :P

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