CSS1 vs. CSS2

[Neil Zanella]

Hello,

I would like to know what the major enhancements of CSS2 over CSS1 are and
whether CSS2 support is any better these days than it was a few years ago.
In particular, do most browsers fully support CSS1 nowadays? What about
CSS2? I like the idea of CSS, and prefer XHTML syntax to HTML 4.01
because I can use the class attribute to define style, instead
of having a bunch of markup junk everywhere. Now I want to
get the most of out of available style.

Bye,

Neil

[Bertilo Wennergren]

Neil Zanella:

I like the idea of CSS, and prefer XHTML syntax to HTML 4.01
because I can use the class attribute to define style, instead
of having a bunch of markup junk everywhere.

You can use the class attribute to define style in HTML 4.01 as well. And
you can use markup junk to do it in XHTML too. These things actually work
exactly the same in HTML 4 and XHTML 1.0.

--
Bertil Wennergren <be******@gmx.net> <http://www.bertilow.com>

[Steve Pugh]

Neil Zanella <nz******@cs.mun.ca> wrote:

I would like to know what the major enhancements of CSS2 over CSS1 are
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/changes.html
In particular, do most browsers fully support CSS1 nowadays?
Define most browsers....

IE5.5 (and IE6 if your doctype puts it into quirks mode) still gets
major parts of CSS1 wrong. And let's not even mention Netscape 4.
What about CSS2?
Ditto. Only more so.

No browser _fully_ supports CSS2 - a browser that fully supported all
the visual styles and all the aural styles would be truly amazing
compared with today's browsers.
I like the idea of CSS, and prefer XHTML syntax to HTML 4.01
because I can use the class attribute to define style, instead
of having a bunch of markup junk everywhere.

Sorry, I don't understand your point.
You can use the class attribute with HTML 4.01. In practical terms
there is nothing that XHTML 1.0 offers that HTML 4.01 does not. It's
quite possible to write HTML 4, or even HTML 3.2 that uses no 'markup
junk' but which uses just CSS.

Indeed, many people see class selectors as hack to deal with browsers
(like IE) that don't support the more powerful contextual selectors.

Steve

--
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I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>

[Jim Dabell]

Neil Zanella wrote:

I would like to know what the major enhancements of CSS2 over CSS1 are
TFM includes an appendix on this:

<URL:http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/changes.html>

and whether CSS2 support is any better these days than it was a few years
ago.
Yes, quite a lot better, since most people have written off Netscape 4.x
now.

In particular, do most browsers fully support CSS1 nowadays?
You aren't likely to run into many problems with CSS 1 today, but this is
different to "most browsers fully supporting CSS 1" - I believe Internet
Explorer still gets a few things wrong, but the features are implemented,
it's mostly just corner-case stuff.

What about CSS2?
There are still widespread problems, with large sections of the
specification not being implemented by many people (and thus taken out of
CSS 2.1). Internet Explorer is the runt of the litter, falling down all
over the place.

CSS 2 is still useful, just make sure you test in Internet Explorer if you
care about that browser at all, and make sure you are aware of its various
shortcomings before writing a lot of code.

I like the idea of CSS, and prefer XHTML syntax to HTML 4.01
because I can use the class attribute to define style, instead
of having a bunch of markup junk everywhere.

XHTML 1.0 is equivelant to HTML 4.01 in this regard.
--
Jim Dabell

[GuruJ]

Neil Zanella wrote:

Hello,

I would like to know what the major enhancements of CSS2 over CSS1 are and
whether CSS2 support is any better these days than it was a few years ago.
In particular, do most browsers fully support CSS1 nowadays? What about
CSS2?

<snip>

The RichInStyle site (http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/) gives you an
idea of just how many inconsistencies there are between the various
browsers, although the table is now quite out of date.

The site also promises a dynamically-generated test suite
(http://www.richinstyle.com/test/) but this is currently completely
buggy, and I don't know if the site is currently being maintained or not.

An alternative resource you might find useful is at the excellent
Blooberry Index DOT CSS site:

http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/cs...key/syntax.htm

-- GuruJ.