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EMBED-command - HTML 4.01 Transitional alternative?

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There isn't a command that exists that can serve as an alternative to EMBED in
HTML 4.01 Transitional coding, is there?

I've historically used this command to play MIDI files in the background of my
webpages, and I'm finding out now it's kind of obsolete, even though most
browsers still accept it.

Thanks,

Michael Triggs
mt********@aol.com

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Jul 20 '05 #1
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MTriggs886 wrote:
There isn't a command that exists that can serve as an alternative to
EMBED in HTML 4.01 Transitional coding, is there?


There aren't any commands in HTML. There is the <object> element though.
http://w3.org/TR/html4/
I've historically used this command to play MIDI files in the background

of my webpages,


When it comes to webpages, there is no background as far as the speakers are
concerned. Only the foreground, and 99% of the time - its intrusive.

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Jul 20 '05 #2

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In article <20***************************@mb-m04.aol.com>,
mt********@aol.com (MTriggs886) wrote:
There isn't a command that exists that can serve as an alternative to EMBED in
HTML 4.01 Transitional coding, is there?
OBJECT.
I've historically used this command
Element.
to play MIDI files in the background of my
webpages, and I'm finding out now it's kind of obsolete, even though most
browsers still accept it.


Bugging visitors with automatically playing MIDI files is even more
obsolete.

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Kris
<kr*******@xs4all.netherlands> (nl)
Jul 20 '05 #3

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mt********@aol.com (MTriggs886) wrote:
There isn't a command that exists that can serve as an alternative to EMBED in
HTML 4.01 Transitional coding, is there?

I've historically used this command to play MIDI files in the background of my
webpages, and I'm finding out now it's kind of obsolete, even though most
browsers still accept it.


When I'm browsing in my cubicle at work or with the radio or TV on at
home, or even while I'm listening to music through my PC that *I* have
chosen to hear, and I come to a web site published by somebody who
assumes I want my coworkers disturbed, or that I want his choice of
music to drown out or end playback of the music *I* had chosen to
listen to, I leave that site immediately.

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Jul 20 '05 #4

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Harlan Messinger wrote:
mt********@aol.com (MTriggs886) wrote:
I've historically used this command to play MIDI files in the background of my
webpages, and I'm finding out now it's kind of obsolete, even though most
browsers still accept it.

When I'm browsing in my cubicle at work or with the radio or TV on at
home, or even while I'm listening to music through my PC that *I* have
chosen to hear, and I come to a web site published by somebody who
assumes I want my coworkers disturbed, or that I want his choice of
music to drown out or end playback of the music *I* had chosen to
listen to, I leave that site immediately.


Not that I advocate embedded music, but if you don't want to hear the
music on web sites, then uninstall or disable your audio plug-in. If
you want to listen to the music on a certain site, then you can open it
in a helper applications. Not exactly rocket science, and better than
complaining.

Jul 20 '05 #5

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Keith Bowes wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
mt********@aol.com (MTriggs886) wrote:
I've historically used this command to play MIDI files in the background of my
webpages, and I'm finding out now it's kind of obsolete, even though most
browsers still accept it.

When I'm browsing in my cubicle at work or with the radio or TV on at
home, or even while I'm listening to music through my PC that *I* have
chosen to hear, and I come to a web site published by somebody who
assumes I want my coworkers disturbed, or that I want his choice of
music to drown out or end playback of the music *I* had chosen to
listen to, I leave that site immediately.

Not that I advocate embedded music, but if you don't want to hear the
music on web sites, then uninstall or disable your audio plug-in. If
you want to listen to the music on a certain site, then you can open it
in a helper applications. Not exactly rocket science, and better than
complaining.


Don't you have a power button on the speakers? I have, and normaly I
have the speakers off so I don't here anything (mostly don't even know
if a site have background music).

But sometimes I like to listen to a CD on my computer when I'm
surfing, and thoose times I get realy pissed off if I come to a site
where the background music mess with the CD I'm listening to!

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/Arne
Jul 20 '05 #6

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Tim
Keith Bowes wrote:
Not that I advocate embedded music, but if you don't want to hear the
music on web sites, then uninstall or disable your audio plug-in. If
you want to listen to the music on a certain site, then you can open it
in a helper applications. Not exactly rocket science, and better than
complaining.

Not easy to do for some people, and some software.
Arne <ar********@telia.com> posted:
Don't you have a power button on the speakers? I have, and normaly I
have the speakers off so I don't here anything (mostly don't even know
if a site have background music).
Though that still doesn't help some people, who don't need yet another task
(their sound system playing music) running at the same time. I've got one
crappy system, here, that just loves to crash whenever the sound card is
used. It's built-in, and not disableable. On both Windows and Linux it
behaves that way, so the last thing I'd want is for it to start playing
music unrequested.
But sometimes I like to listen to a CD on my computer when I'm
surfing, and thoose times I get realy pissed off if I come to a site
where the background music mess with the CD I'm listening to!


I rather like my peace and quiet, though I usually have the sound running
so I can hear notifications from some applications that talk to me in that
way. I'm yet to come across a website playing music that didn't annoy the
hell out of me.

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Jul 20 '05 #7

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Ian
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:49:43 -0400, Keith Bowes <do****@spam.me>
wrote:
Not that I advocate embedded music, but if you don't want to hear the
music on web sites, then uninstall or disable your audio plug-in.


That's what I do, as a user. On my sites I never install music,
though, since not all my users would do that. The oddest thing is
all these official websites for rock bands that play music in the
background, despite the fact that many of the people visiting the
site are probably playing that band's music on their media player!

Ian
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"Ian" <bl***@blank.com> a écrit dans le message de
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The oddest thing is
all these official websites for rock bands that play music in the
background, despite the fact that many of the people visiting the
site are probably playing that band's music on their media player!


Well, you can't really blame them if they provide a "stop music" button. But
very few does...

Jul 20 '05 #9

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Arne <ar********@telia.com> wrote:
But sometimes I like to listen to a CD on my computer when I'm
surfing, and thoose times I get realy pissed off if I come to a site
where the background music mess with the CD I'm listening to!


agree on this one...specially since most of those midi's have really
short loop, and get really annoying after just a couple of seconds,
even when no other (real) music to mess with...

sound effects to certain actions(onMouseOvers, or when show/hide
layers for example) can be cool from time to time, but background
music almost always makes me hit back button instantly...and that's
hardly the intended reaction for a visitor :)
Jul 20 '05 #10

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