<form> whitespace problem

[bc9am]

Hi,

I'm having problems with the <form> tag creating some unwanted
whitespace. I did a search on this forum and came across this link:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/extraspace.html

Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.

Has anyone else come across another way to do this that works for
everything?

I was wondering if the <form> element was needed at all? On my page I am
just using a <select> drop-down box to change the contents of a frame on
the page (with javascript, the form never actually 'posts' anything).
Would it be legal to omit the <form> statement in this instance?

Many thanks.

[Lauri Raittila]

In article bc9am wrote:

Hi,

I'm having problems with the <form> tag creating some unwanted
whitespace. I did a search on this forum and came across this link:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/extraspace.html

Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.
Why do you care that?
Has anyone else come across another way to do this that works for
everything?
I don't remember.
I was wondering if the <form> element was needed at all? On my page I am
just using a <select> drop-down box to change the contents of a frame on
the page (with javascript, the form never actually 'posts' anything).
Some browsers, like Opera 5 and 6 don't like that at all. I would think
they are more popular than NN4
Would it be legal to omit the <form> statement in this instance?

No. http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/navmenu.html#alt

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[David Dorward]

bc9am wrote:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/extraspace.html
Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.
Does a small visual variance really matter? Netscape 4.x has a tiny market
share, and the content (which is the most important part of most websites)
is still available.
I was wondering if the <form> element was needed at all? On my page I am
just using a <select> drop-down box to change the contents of a frame on
the page (with javascript, the form never actually 'posts' anything).

Oh dear, on two counts.

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/navmenu.html
http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/
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[Harlan Messinger]

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Hi,

I'm having problems with the <form> tag creating some unwanted
whitespace. I did a search on this forum and came across this link:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/extraspace.html

Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.
Just to give you another way of looking at the problem, there has come or
will come a time where each developer will decide whether it *matters* any
more about the details of a page's appearance in Netscape 4, as long as it
functions.

Has anyone else come across another way to do this that works for
everything?

I was wondering if the <form> element was needed at all? On my page I am
just using a <select> drop-down box to change the contents of a frame on
the page (with javascript, the form never actually 'posts' anything).
Would it be legal to omit the <form> statement in this instance?

Legal, and appropriate, since the purpose of a form element is to post its
data to the server.

[Harlan Messinger]

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"bc9am" <bc***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was wondering if the <form> element was needed at all? On my page I am
just using a <select> drop-down box to change the contents of a frame on
the page (with javascript, the form never actually 'posts' anything).
Would it be legal to omit the <form> statement in this instance?

Legal, and appropriate, since the purpose of a form element is to post its
data to the server.

Let me clarify this. When using a control, whether a SELECT or another kind,
for purely client-side interaction, it's appropriate to use it without a
FORM. However, using a SELECT list for navigation is itself not a good idea.

[bc9am]

Lauri Raittila wrote:

In article bc9am wrote:

Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.
Why do you care that?

I know that quite a few people who view the site use Netscape 4 browsers
(15-20%)
Some browsers, like Opera 5 and 6 don't like that at all. I would think
they are more popular than NN4

Thanks.

[Werner Partner]

bc9am schrieb:

Hi,

I'm having problems with the <form> tag creating some unwanted
whitespace. I did a search on this forum and came across this link:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/extraspace.html

Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.

Has anyone else come across another way to do this that works for
everything?

I was wondering if the <form> element was needed at all? On my page I am
just using a <select> drop-down box to change the contents of a frame on
the page (with javascript, the form never actually 'posts' anything).
Would it be legal to omit the <form> statement in this instance?

I had a similar problem, perhaps "margin:0" helps

Werner
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[Steve Pugh]

Werner Partner <ka****@sonoptikon.de> wrote:

bc9am schrieb:

I'm having problems with the <form> tag creating some unwanted
whitespace. I did a search on this forum and came across this link:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/extraspace.html

Which gives a semi-work around to the problem (uses CSS). This however
does not work in Netscape 4 browsers.

I had a similar problem, perhaps "margin:0" helps

That's the CSS solution which doesn't work in NN4. :-(

Letting NN4 display a bit of extra white space is by far the easiest
solution.

Steve

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