disabling modern browsers "remember the stuff you entered on this form?" popups

[Hal Robertson]

I have created a rather complicated series of html forms for a data
entry wizard

In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered. How
do I, in HTML, tell Mozilla and other browsers with this feature to
not offer that option?

thanks

Hal

[Andrew Thompson]

"Hal Robertson" ...

I have created a rather complicated series of html forms for a data
entry wizard

In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered. How
do I, in HTML, tell Mozilla and other browsers with this feature to
not offer that option?

You have it the wrong way around.

_You_ the user can configure _your_ Mozilla
to not do autocomplete, if that is _your_ wish.

_Your_ HTML cannot configure _my_ Mozilla
to any extent. If it could, then..
a) _I_ would stop using Mozilla, and..
b) _I_ would not visit _your_ site.

Leave the users browser alone, but link
to a page that explains to your user how
they can configure their _own_ browser to
behave the way _they_ want it to.

I mean, if they really _want_ to 'struggle'
through your forms with autocomplete on
(I do not quite understand why you think it
is detrimental) it is their choice.

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[Neal]

On 25 Feb 2004 17:17:13 -0800, Hal Robertson <ha***********@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I have created a rather complicated series of html forms for a data
entry wizard

In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered. How
do I, in HTML, tell Mozilla and other browsers with this feature to
not offer that option?

thanks

Hal

You don't.

You do NOT tell the user agent what to do with the user's data. Your data
is a guest on the user's computer.

[Jukka K. Korpela]

ha***********@yahoo.com (Hal Robertson) wrote:

I have created a rather complicated series of html forms for a data
entry wizard
This would be easier to analyze if you had given a URL.
In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered.

My guess is that that the forms now have fields named the same way but
not sufficiently related to make autocomplete meaningful.

Then the answer would be to generate the forms so that the names
differ. This requires changes to form handlers, but you could e.g.
generate names like "foo-48417", "bar-48417" etc. where 48417 is some
number that depends on the form, and the form handler would just mask
the tail (hyphen and number) away before proceding. (It could also
check that the tails match, just as an extra data integrity check.)

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[JP. Baker]

In article <a8**************************@posting.google.com >,
Hal Robertson <ha***********@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have created a rather complicated series of html forms for a data
entry wizard

In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered. How
do I, in HTML, tell Mozilla and other browsers with this feature to
not offer that option?

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element - I know it
is proprietary but I think Mozilla supports it as well. And seeing that
you appear to be writing an intranet application...

nhoJ
--
John P Baker

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Thu, 25 Feb 2004, Hal Robertson wrote:

I have created a rather complicated series of html forms for a data
entry wizard

*That's* your problem, right there. Work on solving the problem
you've created - don't try to add extra problems to it by trying to
tinker with your users' browsers.

[kchayka]

JP. Baker wrote:

In article <a8**************************@posting.google.com >,
Hal Robertson <ha***********@yahoo.com> wrote:

In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered. How
do I, in HTML, tell Mozilla and other browsers with this feature to
not offer that option?

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element - I know it
is proprietary but I think Mozilla supports it as well.

mozilla does support this - it was added as the request of Wells Fargo
bank. They, and some other sites dealing with sensitive data, wouldn't
support gecko-based browsers without it.

It shouldn't be used at the whim of the author, though.

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[Hal Robertson]

thanks for this. Of course the form data is sensitive!

kchayka <us****@c-net.us> wrote in message news:<c1*************@ID-224809.news.uni-berlin.de>...

JP. Baker wrote:

In article <a8**************************@posting.google.com >,
Hal Robertson <ha***********@yahoo.com> wrote:

In my mozilla browser, every time I submit each form along the
process, it asks me if I want to remember the values I entered. How
do I, in HTML, tell Mozilla and other browsers with this feature to
not offer that option?

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element - I know it
is proprietary but I think Mozilla supports it as well.

mozilla does support this - it was added as the request of Wells Fargo
bank. They, and some other sites dealing with sensitive data, wouldn't
support gecko-based browsers without it.

It shouldn't be used at the whim of the author, though.

[Brian]

kchayka wrote:

JP. Baker wrote:

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element - I
know it is proprietary but I think Mozilla supports it as well.

mozilla does support this - it was added as the request of Wells
Fargo bank. They, and some other sites dealing with sensitive data,
wouldn't support gecko-based browsers without it.

Quite obnoxious on the part of Wells Fargo. I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.

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[Randy Webb]

Brian wrote:

kchayka wrote:

JP. Baker wrote:

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element - I
know it is proprietary but I think Mozilla supports it as well.

mozilla does support this - it was added as the request of Wells
Fargo bank. They, and some other sites dealing with sensitive data,
wouldn't support gecko-based browsers without it.

Quite obnoxious on the part of Wells Fargo. I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.

So, you want to be able to go to an Internet Cafe and have it remember
all your data? Login names/passwords? I prefer the autocomplete="off"
myself.

--
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[Neal]

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:54:03 -0500, Randy Webb <hi************@aol.com>
wrote:

Brian wrote:

Quite obnoxious on the part of Wells Fargo. I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.

So, you want to be able to go to an Internet Cafe and have it remember
all your data? Login names/passwords? I prefer the autocomplete="off"
myself.

The Internet cafe can turn off these features on their browsers. In fact,
I'd imagine that if they did not, and never told you, it might be
actionable in court.

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Randy Webb wrote:

Quite obnoxious on the part of Wells Fargo. I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.
So, you want to be able to go to an Internet Cafe and have it remember
all your data?

Now you're just being silly. Why would you want that decision to be
dependent on some markup *added* by the information provider?
I prefer the autocomplete="off" myself.

Then verify that your browser options are set accordingly. Don't
leave it to some proprietary optional extra in the markup.

[Brian]

Randy Webb wrote:

you want to be able to go to an Internet Cafe and have it remember
all your data?
No. I want my browser, on my computer, in my apartment, to "remember" my
data.
Login names/passwords?
Yes, those too.
I prefer the autocomplete="off" myself.

My browser, Mozilla, does not force anyone to store data. It is -- as it
should be -- up to the user. Pity certain sites take away that choice.

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[Harlan Messinger]

Randy Webb <hi************@aol.com> wrote:

Brian wrote:

kchayka wrote:

JP. Baker wrote:

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element - I
know it is proprietary but I think Mozilla supports it as well.
mozilla does support this - it was added as the request of Wells
Fargo bank. They, and some other sites dealing with sensitive data,
wouldn't support gecko-based browsers without it.

Quite obnoxious on the part of Wells Fargo. I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.

So, you want to be able to go to an Internet Cafe and have it remember
all your data? Login names/passwords? I prefer the autocomplete="off"
myself.

If you don't want a browser at an Internet cafe to save your inputs,
then you'd better not be relying on the *pages* you visit to tell the
browser to discard them. You'd better make sure the *browser* is set
not to remember them.

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[kchayka]

Brian wrote:

kchayka wrote:

JP. Baker wrote:

You could try adding AUTOCOMPLETE="OFF" to the form element
mozilla does support this - it was added as the request of Wells
Fargo bank.

Quite obnoxious on the part of Wells Fargo.

I don't see it that way, but no matter.
I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.

And you can with mozilla. Type about:config in the browser location bar
and search for "autocomplete". The particular pref shouldn't be too
hard to pick out. Double-click on it in the config list to change the
setting.

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[Neal]

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:03:44 -0600, kchayka <us****@c-net.us> wrote:

Brian wrote:

I wish I could override
their wishes on this matter. Well, not Wells Fargo, but any site that
blocks auto-fill.

And you can with mozilla. Type about:config in the browser location bar
and search for "autocomplete". The particular pref shouldn't be too
hard to pick out. Double-click on it in the config list to change the
setting.

This in the documentation? If so, then they DO give a solution, and the
point has become moot.