'Dreamweaver' alternative for linux? (RedHet8)

[ljw]

I have just made the historic move from 'EVIL' to linux and just when I
thought I had all my bases covered, and was formatting wind*** from my
life, I realised that I didn't know of any html authoring software to use
under Linux.

The only editor remotely displaying WYSIWYG qualities is the 'Composer'
program bundled with Mozilla - and its a poor substitute. I'd actually
prefer to go back to hand-coding if that were all there was. (hehe-not
bloody likely!!)

Please, please, can anyone tell me some linux alternatives to dreamweaver.
I have come this far and I really don't want to go back to closed-source
for this.

trying to keep the penguin master of my domain
ljw

[ljw]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:28:15 +1100, ljw wrote:

Please, please, can anyone tell me some linux alternatives to dreamweaver.
I have come this far and I really don't want to go back to closed-source
for this.

I have combed the net and found - thanks to google - what seems to be the
answer to my problem.

http://www.nvu.com/

this program - according to the site - seems to be the open source rival
of frontpage and dreamweaver (except a whole lot better i'd imagine)

If anyone has any experience with NVU please let me know.

[ljw]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:28:15 +1100, ljw wrote:

Please, please, can anyone tell me some linux alternatives to dreamweaver.
I have come this far and I really don't want to go back to closed-source
for this.

NVU hasn't been released yet, but this could be good in the meantime
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/

for anyone who is interested

[Spartanicus]

ljw wrote:

http://www.nvu.com/

this program - according to the site - seems to be the open source rival
of frontpage and dreamweaver (except a whole lot better i'd imagine)

If anyone has any experience with NVU please let me know.

A look at the source of their index page says it all, horrible code.

--
Spartanicus

[Spartanicus]

ljw wrote:

NVU hasn't been released yet, but this could be good in the meantime
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/

Have you actually tried it? (you'll probably feel differently once you
have).

--
Spartanicus

[Anne van Kesteren]

Spartanicus wrote:

A look at the source of their index page says it all, horrible code.

It is composer, which was originally in Mozilla. See Glazblog:
<http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/danielglazman/weblog/newarchive/2003_12_14_glazblogarc.html#s107172501192483185>
--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://www.annevankesteren.nl/>

[ljw]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:36:07 +0000, Spartanicus wrote:

Have you actually tried it? (you'll probably feel differently once you
have).

well, i just don't know. is there ANYthing i can use?

[Spartanicus]

ljw wrote:

Have you actually tried it? (you'll probably feel differently once you
have).

well, i just don't know. is there ANYthing i can use?

Afaik no, your abhorrence with regard to using an editor suggests to me
that you are not yet ready for Linux.

--
Spartanicus

[Nick Kew]

In article <pa****************************@bigpond.com>, one of infinite monkeys
at the keyboard of "ljw" <lj***@bigpond.com> wrote:

I have just made the historic move from 'EVIL' to linux and just when I
thought I had all my bases covered, and was formatting wind*** from my
life, I realised that I didn't know of any html authoring software to use
under Linux.

If you installed Linux from a proper "distro" CDROM, you've probably got
a few HTML authoring packages included. There are some that are regularly
recommended in reply to your question, though I couldn't name them (I have
no use for such a thing). Try looking for it in your package manager.

Hmmm, your subject line says deadrat - yes, they're sure to include some.

--
Nick Kew

[Allen]

Nick Kew wrote:

In article <pa****************************@bigpond.com>, one of infinite
monkeys at the keyboard of "ljw" <lj***@bigpond.com> wrote:

I have just made the historic move from 'EVIL' to linux and just when I
thought I had all my bases covered, and was formatting wind*** from my
life, I realised that I didn't know of any html authoring software to use
under Linux.

If you installed Linux from a proper "distro" CDROM, you've probably got
a few HTML authoring packages included. There are some that are regularly
recommended in reply to your question, though I couldn't name them (I have
no use for such a thing). Try looking for it in your package manager.

Hmmm, your subject line says deadrat - yes, they're sure to include some.

Use Quanta Plus. It is a KDE app.

[Larry Fletcher]

ljw <lj***@bigpond.com> wrote:

I have just made the historic move from 'EVIL' to linux and just when I
thought I had all my bases covered, and was formatting wind*** from my
life, I realised that I didn't know of any html authoring software to use
under Linux. The only editor remotely displaying WYSIWYG qualities is the 'Composer'
program bundled with Mozilla - and its a poor substitute. I'd actually
prefer to go back to hand-coding if that were all there was. (hehe-not
bloody likely!!) Please, please, can anyone tell me some linux alternatives to dreamweaver.
I have come this far and I really don't want to go back to closed-source
for this.

OpenOffice has an HTML editor and I imagine StarOffice has
one too. I don't know if they are any good, because I'm
just learning HTML. But the OpenOffice code looks a lot
better than Composer to me.

[Henri Sivonen]

In article <bs**********@localhost.lafn.org>,
Larry Fletcher <de***@extra.lafn.org> wrote:

OpenOffice has an HTML editor and I imagine StarOffice has
one too. I don't know if they are any good, because I'm
just learning HTML. But the OpenOffice code looks a lot
better than Composer to me.

OpenOffice.org does produce cleaner HTML than Composer unless you try to
load a CSS style sheet into OOo. However, I wouldn't describe OOo as a
Dreamweaver alternative.

--
Henri Sivonen
hs******@iki.fi
http://iki.fi/hsivonen/
Mozilla Web Author FAQ: http://mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html

[saysalot]

Afaik no, your abhorrence with regard to using an editor suggests to me
that you are not yet ready for Linux.

--
Spartanicus

This is a sad and far too common attitude taken up by sad people who think that they have more intelligence than the next, and therefore qualifies them to use linux.

Let me think. If I was a 3d animator, would I not be ready for linux if I prefer blender to hand coding POV files?

If I was an accountant, would I be not ready for linux if I wanted to use open office over some hand coded csv and scripts?

Let me imagine I was an artist, would I suffer ascii art in VI over Krita?

Hrm! You lemon!

I tell you, that Linux is not ready for this user, not the other way around. Of course, I jest. Linux, the kernel, or a desktop of choice have little to say in the matter of web editors.

The fact is NVU sucks, but there needs to be another project to productize composer as firefox was productized out of the main suite.

With enough momentum (and I don't want to see that behind NVU, because they released a 1.0 which should have been 0.1) it will take off, and gather more developers.

Hint: NVU: Make your open source open, have a public fskin cvs!

That is all. :rolleyes: