I've just given one of my sites ( www.wealdbroadband.co.uk) an overhaul.
Anyone know if there is a way of fixing text at a certain relative
position down a page? I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at
the same place as you go through the pages, but it varies if you alter
the window width and cause a line to wrap/unwrap.
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Nige
Please replace YYYY with the current year
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:50:12 -0400, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fm> wrote: In article <c0********************************@4ax.com> in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Nige <uY***@ntlworld.com> wrote: I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages,
Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
I would have thought that it would add to consistency, in much the
same way that a footer in a Word document appears - get it wrong and
it just looks untidy.
--
Macie
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Macie wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:50:12 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> wrote:
In article <c0********************************@4ax.com> in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Nige <uY***@ntlworld.com> wrote: I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages, Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
I would have thought that it would add to consistency, in much the same way that a footer in a Word document appears -
Word processors are designed to produce their output on a fixed size medium.
get it wrong and it just looks untidy.
the internet is indeed an uncomfortable environment for obsessive 'tidyer
uppers' ;o)
--
William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com
In article <os********************************@4ax.com>,
Macie <me@privacy.net> wrote: I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages,
Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
I would have thought that it would add to consistency, in much the same way that a footer in a Word document appears - get it wrong and it just looks untidy.
web != paper
--
Kris kr*******@xs4all.netherlands (nl)
Kris wrote: In article <os********************************@4ax.com>, Macie <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at >the same place as you go through the pages,
Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
I would have thought that it would add to consistency, in much the same way that a footer in a Word document appears - get it wrong and it just looks untidy.
web != paper
OTOH, we do have @media print.
Thor
-- http://thorweb.anta.net/
Macie schreef: On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:50:12 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> wrote:
In article <c0********************************@4ax.com> in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Nige <uY***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages,
Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
I would have thought that it would add to consistency, in much the same way that a footer in a Word document appears - get it wrong and it just looks untidy.
Macie, unlike many others here, I understand where this is coming from
and I partially agree with you. Wanting a consistent lay out is not by
definition wrong. It gives peace to the eyes of your visitor if s/he can
rely on where the various elements of your pages are throughout the
site. If elements seem to jump vertically or horizontally between pages,
it can be rather anoying.
Please keep in mind, what makes the lay out of your pages consistent and
what (dominant) elements you should consider in this. It might be that
the copyright notice is just too small and insignificant to bother. Your
visitor might not even consider it to be part of the lay out at all.
But if you still want it done, position:fixed; would be nice, but
unfortunately doesn't work well in IE.
Unfortunately I don't _really_ have a solution for your problem. Maybe
try (options just an example):
..copyright
{
display:block;
position:absolute;
top:480px; /* just some distance; keep in mind you
don't know the resolution of the screen
of you visitors! Maybe rely on percentage
here */
margin: 0 auto 2em auto; /* to get it centered */
}
Next to that, with a position:absolute; you get the copyright notice to
be displayed at the same spot in every page, but you cannot predict
exactly at what 'hight' in the screen this will be, neither can you
predict if the positioning will overlap for example your main content.
Tricky.
Maybe add a menu item in the top of your page that refers to the
copyrights and take the notice out of the bottom of the pages? Ever
considered that?
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Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:MP************************@news.odyssey.net: In article <c0********************************@4ax.com> in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Nige <uY***@ntlworld.com> wrote: I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages,
Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
If they do, I think your Web site has much bigger problems.
I think it's an XY problem. My guess is that he wants to make sure that
the copyright notice isn't distracting to readers. Keeping it in a fixed
position is one possible way of doing that, but it's not the only one.
Copyright or trademark notices that stick out too much can subjectively
ruin a site by making the user feel like he's being scolded. For legal
reasons, they need to be present, but they also need to be kept in the
background of the reader's perceptions. Otherwise you wind up with the
Monty Python sketch about Anne Elk and her theory about the brontosaurus,
where the chief impression conveyed by the interview with John Cleese in
drag is that the theory is hers and not anybody else's.
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, William Tasso wrote: Word processors are designed to produce their output on a fixed size medium.
But MS Word can do a pretty good job of "marking up" with logical
styles, and then attaching different style templates to the content
for different purposes.
That also makes a good starting point for conversion to a web format,
as long as you keep well away from any web-conversion software which
comes from the vendor.
cheers
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:23:31 +0100, Macie <me@privacy.net> wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:50:12 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> wrote:
In article <c0********************************@4ax.com> in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Nige <uY***@ntlworld.com> wrote: I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages, Why? Do you seriously expect people to flip from page to page and focus on where the copyright notice is on their screen?
I would have thought that it would add to consistency, in much the same way that a footer in a Word document appears - get it wrong and it just looks untidy.
I think that's a good example. When I read a Word document on the
screen, the footer appears at the bottom of the page. Which might be
anywhere on the screen. Why would you need a web page to do something
different?
--
Stephen Poley http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:54:26 +0200, Barbara de Zoete
<b_********@hotmail.com> wrote: Macie schreef:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:50:12 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> wrote:
In article <c0********************************@4ax.com> in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html, Nige <uY***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
I'd like the "(c) 2003 ..." notice to appear at the same place as you go through the pages,
<<snipped stuff>>
Macie, unlike many others here, I understand where this is coming from and I partially agree with you. Wanting a consistent lay out is not by definition wrong. It gives peace to the eyes of your visitor if s/he can rely on where the various elements of your pages are throughout the site. If elements seem to jump vertically or horizontally between pages, it can be rather anoying.
But if you still want it done, position:fixed; would be nice, but unfortunately doesn't work well in IE.
Unfortunately I don't _really_ have a solution for your problem. Maybe try (options just an example):
.copyright { display:block; position:absolute; top:480px; /* just some distance; keep in mind you don't know the resolution of the screen of you visitors! Maybe rely on percentage here */ margin: 0 auto 2em auto; /* to get it centered */ }
Next to that, with a position:absolute; you get the copyright notice to be displayed at the same spot in every page, but you cannot predict exactly at what 'hight' in the screen this will be, neither can you predict if the positioning will overlap for example your main content. Tricky.
Maybe add a menu item in the top of your page that refers to the copyrights and take the notice out of the bottom of the pages? Ever considered that?
Well, although I wasn't the OP the subject did interest me as I am
weaning myself off WYSIWIG editors trying to learn code mainly by the
'running through glue' method of constantly changing bits of pages to
see what happens.
Positioning on pages is currently my #1 grief at the moment, so I
shall have a play with your suggestions.
Cheers
--
Macie
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