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I have a page that's being dynamically generated.

It has 2 parts, which I want to display on top of each other (not
overlapping, but one after the other). I won't know the height of the
1st part until run time.

Now, to compound the problem, each part has elements inside it that
are absolute positioned inside its box.

I have tried to use <div style="position:absolute">, but I need to
know the top and height of the 1st part in order to place the 2nd part
(which I don't).

Of course using <div> tags without a position:absolute style will
place the parts one after the other, but then the contained elements
are then positioned inside the browser as opposed to the desired
result; positioned inside its containing box.

Any suggestions? Tips?
Jul 20 '05 #1
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Ivo

"Bryce (Work)" <sp******@berzerker-soft.com> wrote in message
news:js********************************@4ax.com...
I have a page that's being dynamically generated.

It has 2 parts, which I want to display on top of each other (not
overlapping, but one after the other). I won't know the height of the
1st part until run time.

Now, to compound the problem, each part has elements inside it that
are absolute positioned inside its box.

I have tried to use <div style="position:absolute">, but I need to
know the top and height of the 1st part in order to place the 2nd part
(which I don't).

Of course using <div> tags without a position:absolute style will
place the parts one after the other, but then the contained elements
are then positioned inside the browser as opposed to the desired
result; positioned inside its containing box.

Any suggestions? Tips?


Wait with layout and positioning until runtime. Users may witness a funny
looking page while loading, but many sites work that way, including some
sections at microsoft.com.
Ivo
Jul 20 '05 #2
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:21:32 +0200, "Ivo" <no@thank.you> wrote:

Wait with layout and positioning until runtime. Users may witness a funny
looking page while loading, but many sites work that way, including some
sections at microsoft.com.
Ivo


yea, I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
their browsers...
Jul 20 '05 #3
Bryce (Work) wrote:

I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
their browsers...


lol perhaps you should rely on something more material than prayer

--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me

Jul 20 '05 #4
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:16:59 -0400, "Bryce (Work)"
<sp******@berzerker-soft.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:21:32 +0200, "Ivo" <no@thank.you> wrote:
Wait with layout and positioning until runtime. Users may witness a funny
looking page while loading, but many sites work that way, including some
sections at microsoft.com.
yea, I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
their browsers...


Estimates of visitors with Javascript off or unavailable range from 10%
to 20%, so you may need to rethink that one.

The absolute minimum you need to do would be a warning to the reader
that the page will display strangely without Javascript. But my view is
that doing a table-based layout is preferable to doing a CSS layout
which breaks without Javascript.

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
Jul 20 '05 #5
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:33:04 +0200, Stephen Poley
<sb******************@xs4all.nl> wrote:
yea, I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
their browsers...


Estimates of visitors with Javascript off or unavailable range from 10%
to 20%, so you may need to rethink that one.

The absolute minimum you need to do would be a warning to the reader
that the page will display strangely without Javascript. But my view is
that doing a table-based layout is preferable to doing a CSS layout
which breaks without Javascript.


I wish I could... Table layout would be best in our situation, but
that would involve a total rewrite as opposed to a quick solution...
Thank god we are replacing this app with something better...
Jul 20 '05 #6
I V
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:42:55 -0400, Bryce (Work) wrote:
I have tried to use <div style="position:absolute">, but I need to
know the top and height of the 1st part in order to place the 2nd part
(which I don't).

Of course using <div> tags without a position:absolute style will
place the parts one after the other, but then the contained elements
are then positioned inside the browser as opposed to the desired
result; positioned inside its containing box.


position: relative also creates a new containing box. I often find that
positioning the main content div relatively, and any additional divs
absolutely allows me to get the layout I want without knowing the height
of the divs involved.

--
"Okay, this time I'm Poison Ivy, you're Harley Quinn, and we're pulling a
daring heist of an adult novelty goods store."
http://www.huh.34sp.com/

Jul 20 '05 #7

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