target="_top" tag problems

[Dave]

Hello,

I have written a website www.pusspaws.net, my problem is in the
gallery section.
I have coded ...

<object type="text/html" data="galleryobj.html" border="0" width="422"
height="325"></object><br>

to make a scrolling window (Or is it a frame with an <object> tab ?),
which seems to work well,

Inside the window I have made every image a clickable link to view a
larger picture. The code I have used is ...

<a href="card1.html"
target="_top"><img src="jpegs/card1.jpeg" alt=
"Diamond wedding invitation card" title=
"Diamond wedding invitation card" align="left" border="0" width=
"200" height="141"></a> <span class="midtext"> ...

Where jpegs/card1.html is the larger image.

MY PROBLEM ...

In windows 98SE it works perfectly. The _top target breaks out of the
<object> tag & displays the image full screen. If I click the browser
back arrow I go back to the main galler page, just as I intended.

In windows XP it apparently (I do not run XP) does not work. The large
image is caught inside the <object> "frame" & you have to use the
scroll bars to see a tiny portion of it. Not what I intended.

Can anyone suggest some coding changes to make it work in XP ?

Many thanks in advance
Dave

[Els]

Dave wrote:

Hello,

I have written a website www.pusspaws.net, my problem is in the
gallery section.
I have coded ...

<object type="text/html" data="galleryobj.html" border="0" width="422"
height="325"></object><br>

to make a scrolling window (Or is it a frame with an <object> tab ?),
which seems to work well,

Inside the window I have made every image a clickable link to view a
larger picture. The code I have used is ...

<a href="card1.html"
target="_top"><img src="jpegs/card1.jpeg" alt=
"Diamond wedding invitation card" title=
"Diamond wedding invitation card" align="left" border="0" width=
"200" height="141"></a> <span class="midtext"> ...

Where jpegs/card1.html is the larger image.

MY PROBLEM ...

In windows 98SE it works perfectly. The _top target breaks out of the
<object> tag & displays the image full screen. If I click the browser
back arrow I go back to the main galler page, just as I intended.

In windows XP it apparently (I do not run XP) does not work. The large
image is caught inside the <object> "frame" & you have to use the
scroll bars to see a tiny portion of it. Not what I intended.

Can anyone suggest some coding changes to make it work in XP ?

It's not XP that's the problem, but IE.
Netscape under XP displays it the way you intended.
I don't know anything about using <object>, so I'll leave
the answering of your question to others ;-)
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Els

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[Jukka K. Korpela]

go****@pusspaws.net (Dave) wrote:

I have coded ...

<object type="text/html" data="galleryobj.html" border="0" width="422"
height="325"></object><br>
Stop doing that. Problem solved.
In windows XP it apparently (I do not run XP) does not work. The large
image is caught inside the <object> "frame" & you have to use the
scroll bars to see a tiny portion of it. Not what I intended.
What made you think the target="_top" attribute should work in some
particular way in this context? An element embedded via <object> is to be
rendered autonomously, just in a canvas embedded into another page's
content, so it's a moot point what "_top" reallt refers to.
Can anyone suggest some coding changes to make it work in XP ?

Stop using frames, and especially stop using fake frames.

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[Graham J]

> <object type="text/html" data="galleryobj.html" border="0" width="422"

height="325"></object><br>
I have only limited experience with <object> used like this but it was
sufficient for me to avoid it. Weird and wonderful things happened when I
tried to use it, especially with IE which in particular behaved very
strangely unless the embedded page was XHTML instead of HTML 4.01.
In windows XP it apparently (I do not run XP) does not work. The large
image is caught inside the <object> "frame" & you have to use the
scroll bars to see a tiny portion of it. Not what I intended.
As has been suggested, this is probably an IE v other browsers problem
though which is the 'correct' behaviour seems a little unclear. It seems to
me that IE's interpretation has a lot going for it. <object> is not a
'frame' after all so treating it like a separate canvas seems to make a lot
of sense.
Can anyone suggest some coding changes to make it work in XP ?

You seem to be using 4.01 Transitional so why not give <iframe> a go. That
is very much a 'frame' so browser behaviour should be consistent.
G.

[Daniel R. Tobias]

Dave wrote:

In windows XP it apparently (I do not run XP) does not work. The large
image is caught inside the <object> "frame" & you have to use the
scroll bars to see a tiny portion of it. Not what I intended.

It works fine for me in Mozilla under Windows XP.

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[Dave]

"Graham J" <in***************@orangebucket.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bk************@ID-203032.news.uni-berlin.de>...

<object type="text/html" data="galleryobj.html" border="0" width="422"
height="325"></object><br>

I have only limited experience with <object> used like this but it was
sufficient for me to avoid it. Weird and wonderful things happened when I
tried to use it, especially with IE which in particular behaved very
strangely unless the embedded page was XHTML instead of HTML 4.01.

In windows XP it apparently (I do not run XP) does not work. The large
image is caught inside the <object> "frame" & you have to use the
scroll bars to see a tiny portion of it. Not what I intended.

As has been suggested, this is probably an IE v other browsers problem
though which is the 'correct' behaviour seems a little unclear. It seems to
me that IE's interpretation has a lot going for it. <object> is not a
'frame' after all so treating it like a separate canvas seems to make a lot
of sense.

Can anyone suggest some coding changes to make it work in XP ?

You seem to be using 4.01 Transitional so why not give <iframe> a go. That
is very much a 'frame' so browser behaviour should be consistent.
G.

Many thanks, I will give <iframe> a go

Dave

[Dave]

Hello,

I have modified <object> to <itable>, can anyone running XP IE look at
www.pusspaws.net & tell me if the gallery works as I had planned ...
ie initial e-mail.

Many thanks
Dave

[Els]

Dave wrote:

Hello,

I have modified <object> to <itable>, can anyone running XP IE look at
www.pusspaws.net & tell me if the gallery works as I had planned ...
ie initial e-mail.

Yep, it's working.
Just a little thing: Once the bigger pic is on the screen,
the only way back is with the back-button of the browser.
I, just speaking for myself, find it easy if I can go back
by clicking on the big picture.
(just a habit ;-) )

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Mente humana é como pára-quedas; funciona melhor aberta.

[Dave]

> Yep, it's working.

Just a little thing: Once the bigger pic is on the screen,
the only way back is with the back-button of the browser.
I, just speaking for myself, find it easy if I can go back
by clicking on the big picture.
(just a habit ;-) )

Tweeked it again, added a link at the bottom,hopefully still works,
Thanks for your input

Dave