How to insert an horizontal rule without using HR

[Francesco Moi]

Hello

I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.

Does anybody know a good way?

Thank you very much.

[Jukka K. Korpela]

fr**********@europe.com (Francesco Moi) wrote:

I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.

What is a horizontal rule, in terms of document structure markup? The
question is similar to asking 'how do I use Arial font in HTML without
using <font>?'.

We cannot tell what would be the appropriate markup without knowing what
you wish to describe. And the presentational side is external to HTML,
_especially_ if you have ruled out <hr>. Well, theres <img> of course. :-)

In CSS, you can create various lines by setting border properties for
elements. But if a line actually indicates a major division of content,
then <hr> actually comes closest to structural markup for it.

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[Martin Honnen]

Francesco Moi wrote:

Hello

I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.

Does anybody know a good way?

Well, HTML is oldfashioned if you ask the W3C XHTML is the new fashion
where you would use
<hr />

If you don't want to use hr then maybe
<p style="border: 1px inset"></p>
has the same presentation

--

Martin Honnen
http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/

[EightNineThree]

"Francesco Moi" <fr**********@europe.com> wrote in message
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Hello

I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.

Does anybody know a good way?

Thank you very much.

the <hr> element has a structural purpose.
That said, you should use it when it will suit that purpose.
If it does not meet with your aesthetic vision, then you can use CSS to
change its visual presentation.
--
Karl Core

Charles Sweeney says my sig is fine as it is.

[Stan Brown]

In article <5b**************************@posting.google.com > in
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<fr**********@europe.com> wrote:

I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.

And I'd like to fly to Cleveland, but without using an airplane or
helicopter

What specific requirement do you have that makes <hr> not the right
tool for a horizontal rule?

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[Francesco Moi]

Thank you, Martin, for your answer.

I've just searched in Google, and I've found something like yours:

<p style="border-style:solid;border-width:1px;border-color:#eeeeee"></p>

Regards.

Martin Honnen <Ma***********@t-online.de> wrote in message news:<3F**************@t-online.de>...

Francesco Moi wrote:

Hello

I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.

Does anybody know a good way?

Well, HTML is oldfashioned if you ask the W3C XHTML is the new fashion
where you would use
<hr />

If you don't want to use hr then maybe
<p style="border: 1px inset"></p>
has the same presentation

[Sam Hughes]

fr**********@europe.com (Francesco Moi) wrote in
news:5b**************************@posting.google.c om:

Thank you, Martin, for your answer.

I've just searched in Google, and I've found something like yours:

<p
style="border-style:solid;border-width:1px;border-color:#eeeeee"></p>
I have a better idea. Use <hr>. It is not old-fashioned. You are
wrong.

Also, if you are going to do something as ludicrous as what I see above,
you might as well use

<p style="border: 1px solid #EEE"></p>

considering that it does and means the same thing with half the code.

Better yet, how about

<hr style="border: 1px solid #EEE"></hr>
Martin Honnen <Ma***********@t-online.de> wrote in message
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Francesco Moi wrote:

> Hello
>
> I want to insert an horizontal rule into my HTML page, but
> without using <HR> or <HR size=1>, as I consider it oldfashioned.
>
> Does anybody know a good way?

Well, HTML is oldfashioned if you ask the W3C XHTML is the new
fashion where you would use
<hr />

If you don't want to use hr then maybe
<p style="border: 1px inset"></p>
has the same presentation