Seeking Web Designer

[David]

I am a full-time freelance writer. I am seeking an established,
professional web designer who has designed more than one successful
website for freelance writers.

The individual needs to be able to do the whole job including content,
design, graphics and logo. I may want some input or to supply text to
work with for the content for obvious reasons. They need to be able to
demonstrate that the sites they have done for writers have been
directly responsible for those writers getting a substantial increase
in business.

The sole purpose of the site is to draw a great deal of new business
in the form of project contracts and writing assignments in ALL of the
several types of writing that I do. Instead of asking me what I want,
you need to be able to tell me what I need and convince me that you
are right.

You must be extremely professional. Please, no applications from
designers who do a great design only to misspell a word of content
here or there or who deliver the job as done when there is still some
error somewhere on even so much as one page.

[David]

"Mark" <sp**@dude.spam> wrote in message news:<be**********@fegnews.vip.hr>...

If you're seeking for web designer only, then that person can't guarantee
you that your business will increase.
We are web designers not business managers.
Once again we are web designers not writers, so we will copy your text into
web site, what is in that text that is your business. Web designers don't do
text checking or do they write text.
We take client's (yours) material and make of it web site, what is in that
material that is your business.
If you want from us to check your material then you will have to pay extra
for that work.

"David" <ge*****@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:d1**************************@posting.google.c om...

I am a full-time freelance writer. I am seeking an established,
professional web designer who has designed more than one successful
website for freelance writers.

The individual needs to be able to do the whole job including content,
design, graphics and logo. I may want some input or to supply text to
work with for the content for obvious reasons. They need to be able to
demonstrate that the sites they have done for writers have been
directly responsible for those writers getting a substantial increase
in business.

The sole purpose of the site is to draw a great deal of new business
in the form of project contracts and writing assignments in ALL of the
several types of writing that I do. Instead of asking me what I want,
you need to be able to tell me what I need and convince me that you
are right.

You must be extremely professional. Please, no applications from
designers who do a great design only to misspell a word of content
here or there or who deliver the job as done when there is still some
error somewhere on even so much as one page.

Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?

Corporate-level web designers who easily offer all that I have asked
for are the ones who should respond, since they would have information
that is on target for this request. (For example, a top notch design
company certainly would have statistical data showing that their web
designs are directly responsible for an increase in sales for the
sites in question.)

Others who, like clueless Ricky Ricardo here, are not on target,
should not respond at all, so that no one's time is wasted, especially
mine.

Ah, but that would require logic and intelligence, wouldn't it? And so
I am reminded that there is a world of difference between those who
built the Internet, and still help to build it today, and those who
are only capable of using it.

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Tue, Jul 8, David inscribed on the eternal scroll:

[excess quotage painlessly destroyed]

Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?
I don't know: I don't use message boards, but I'm a long-standing
participant on usenet.

[...] Ah, but that would require logic and intelligence, wouldn't it? And so
I am reminded that there is a world of difference between those who
built the Internet, and still help to build it today, and those who
are only capable of using it.

I was recently reminded that the Ark was built by an amateur,
but professionals built the Titanic.

Anybody for dot-com?

[Darin McGrew]

David <ge*****@alltel.net> wrote:

Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?

Welcome to USENET. It's a discussion forum. People post messages (including
inappropriate messages, like the ad that started this thread), and other
people post responses. Discussion ensues. Some (many? most?) responses will
not be useful to the original poster. Some (many? most?) responses may not
even be on-topic for the newsgroup, or "appropriate to the thread" as you
put it.

You don't have to read everything posted to the newsgroup. Killfiles are
wonderful things.
--
Darin McGrew, mc****@stanfordalumni.org, http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp.com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

"Shin: a device for finding furniture in the dark." - Steven Wright

[Matthias Gutfeldt]

David schrieb:

Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?
I have no idea. Ask the people on those message boards.

Corporate-level web designers who easily offer all that I have asked
for are the ones who should respond,

In that case you got the wrong communication channel. On usenet you
can't choose who responds to your messages. You can only choose what
messages you respond to.
Matthias

[Derek.Moody]

In article <d1**************************@posting.google.com >, David
<URL:mailto:ge*****@alltel.net> wrote:

Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?
Why does a writer post such an unfillable request. Or are we being used to
supply supporting material for the next opus?
Corporate-level web designers who easily offer all that I have asked
Don't exist.
for are the ones who should respond, since they would have information
that is on target for this request. (For example, a top notch design
company certainly would have statistical data showing that their web
designs are directly responsible for an increase in sales for the
sites in question.)
Sure, we almost all have such data but it is held in confidence and I would
advise acquiring an extra long spoon should you sup with one that discloses
it.
Others who, like clueless Ricky Ricardo here, are not on target,
should not respond at all, so that no one's time is wasted, especially
mine.

But our is of no consequence? Figures.

You will find many outfits who will claim to be able to meet your
requirements for a fat fee. They will fail of course. Come back in a
couple of years when you are poorer to the tune of said fat fee but wiser in
what is possible or reasonable. like many here I find -second- websites
much more rewarding to build and maintain. Clients are so pitifully
grateful when they start to return real (but by now unexpected) business.

Cheerio,

--

de*********@clara.net

[Brian]

[nothing is more fun than a pigpile on the rude and stupid]

David wrote:

Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?
I don't know. But since we are posing questions about bothersome
behavior: why do people ride loud dirt bikes in front of my house?
a top notch design company certainly would have statistical data
showing that their web designs are directly responsible for an
increase in sales for the sites in question.)

Then you should call just such a top-notch design company.

--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me

[Darren]

Dave Wrote;

The sole purpose of the site is to draw a great deal of new business
in the form of project contracts and writing assignments in ALL of the
several types of writing that I do. Instead of asking me what I want,
you need to be able to tell me what I need and convince me that you
are right.

You must be extremely professional. Please, no applications from
designers who do a great design only to misspell a word of content
here or there or who deliver the job as done when there is still some
error somewhere on even so much as one page.
1. Even the most professional and experienced web design companies are
capable of a misspeled (yes that was deliberate!) word or broken link.
Just look at take a look at Microsoft's site they're everywhere! These
are the kind of thing that testing and customer liaison iron out.
Which leads me to...

2. There is no such thing as a web designer that can tell you exactly
what you need unless you help. We are full of ideas for websites, but
it's a combined effort with the customer, involving many meetings and
detailed discussion to establish what is required.

3. As for "convincing" you that we are right. This just sounds like
your doubting the ability of the person you are asking to apply.

Dave Wrote;
Why do people comment on message boards with responses other than
those that are useful and appropriate to the thread?

Corporate-level web designers who easily offer all that I have asked
for are the ones who should respond, since they would have information
that is on target for this request. (For example, a top notch design
company certainly would have statistical data showing that their web
designs are directly responsible for an increase in sales for the
sites in question.)

Others who, like clueless Ricky Ricardo here, are not on target,
should not respond at all, so that no one's time is wasted, especially
mine.

4. I too enjoy the freedom of speech that newsgroups provide, to say
that you only want a certain person to reply to your post is naive.

5. Just to waste a little more of your time, an ant just crawled
across my shoe... it's gone now.

Darren Stahlhut (webmaster)
webmaster[no_spam]@basicitsystems.com

[Mark Tranchant]

David wrote:

Darin McGrew <mc****@stanfordalumni.org> wrote in message news:<be**********@blue.rahul.net>...

Killfiles are wonderful things.

Here's a bit of news. I don't know what a kill file is and may never.

When someone describes something as a "wonderful thing", I usually try
to find out what it's all about.

Google works very well (too well?) as an archive, but a news reader is
worth using on USENET. Try one and see.

--
Mark.
http://www.tranchant.freeserve.co.uk/

[steve brown]

"Mark Tranchant" <mt******@ford.com> wrote in message
news:be**********@eccws12.dearborn.ford.com...

When someone describes something as a "wonderful thing", I usually try
to find out what it's all about.

Google works very well (too well?) as an archive, but a news reader is
worth using on USENET. Try one and see.

Google doesn't have options like news reader that is why people use Google
usually for checking old posts.
I'am not sure that "millions" are using Google for every day surfing through
news groups. If they are they must be very foolish to do this. I mean it is
much much easier going through groups using reader, so anyone who uses
Google for daily looking at groups needs check up (and I don't mean computer
check up, doctor would be much better solution).

[Daniel Hansen]

On 8 Jul 2003 12:28:55 -0700, ge*****@alltel.net (David), wrote:

Others who, like clueless Ricky Ricardo here...

Yes, my other persona is Ricky Ricardo. Any you must be, let me see, Fred Mertz? Or perhaps Ethel? If that's you, Ethel, I've always thought you
were SO hot!!

(Anything to waste the time of a useless fiddletwit like little Davie here...)

------------------------------------------------
Dan Hansen
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[Render Web]

"Derek.Moody" <de*********@clara.net> wrote in
news:an**************@half-baked-idea.co.uk:

Corporate-level web designers who easily offer all that I have asked

Don't exist.

They do - their staff are under 24 and have just left UNI.
They know FP2K, Photoshop and DreamWeaver and that is pretty much it :-)

For me, the "gotcha" in his requiremnts included the bit about
the designer not needing to ask about his business.

Given that the field of writing is deep and wide the chance of
someone correctly guessing the target audience and creating
approriate profile models is minimal at best - even with
clear and specific "copy" to aid the process.

If you want (good) professionals to work for you you have
to provide enough details so that they do not have to make
assumptions. You soon learn that the important bit about
assumptions are the first three letters - only an ass makes
assumptions :-)

A good team of professionals will cost you in excess of 1K per man day.
A good team will want you to provide feedback and input.
They will NOT want to waste thier time and your money reworking
models, the design and copy to fit your ever changing requirements.

A bad team will be happy to take your money until it runs out. :-)

Jacqui

p.s.

Try posting your want-ad on freelancers.net - you many find a
couple of CW's interested in the project :-)

[randall]

Good day,
it sounds like you require a consultant first,
and then someone with all the skills you require second.
I can help you with both, by addressing your high visitor issues and professional detail.
let me know if I can be of assistance.