css for 2 columns in the same <div>?

[Geoff Cox]

Hello,

At the moment I am using 2 <divsto list 2 columns of links.

I would like to list these links in 2 columns within the same <div>.

What css will allow me to do this?!

Cheers

Geoff

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Geoff Cox wrote:

Otherwise the vertical list of 8 tyhumbnail images is too long. I
would prefer to have 2 columns of them.

Would you care to have a flexible page of thumbnail images? Where the
number of columns varies with the width of the browser window?

Perhaps this example will give you some ideas:
http://k75s.home.att.net/thumbnails.html

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Vista

[Geoff Cox]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:12:42 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.*********@example.invalidwrote:

>Geoff Cox wrote:

>Otherwise the vertical list of 8 tyhumbnail images is too long. I
would prefer to have 2 columns of them.

Would you care to have a flexible page of thumbnail images? Where the
number of columns varies with the width of the browser window?

Perhaps this example will give you some ideas:
http://k75s.home.att.net/thumbnails.html

Thanks - will take a look.

Cheers

Geoff

[Jukka K. Korpela]

Scripsit Geoff Cox:

>Please keep using the same forged From field until you have a clue.
Thank you in advance.

- -

Charming!

No it isn't. You quoted my advice but didn't follow it, and now we need
to re-plonk you.

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:45 +0000, /Geoff Cox/:

I was trying to avoid having my email address available,
concerned re spam. Which is the best way ro avoid the spam possibiity?

You may use the ".invalid" top level domain [1], like:

ge*******@example.invalid

Then you may include information in your signature about what domain
one should replace "invalid" with to contact you, like:

Replace "invalid" with "net" to reply.

[1] <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2606.html>,
<http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-useage-01.txt>

--
Stanimir

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:45:28 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jk******@cs.tut.fiwrote:

>Scripsit Geoff Cox:

>>Please keep using the same forged From field until you have a clue.
Thank you in advance.

- -

>Charming!

No it isn't. You quoted my advice but didn't follow it, and now we need
to re-plonk you.

you're still talking in riddles ....

Geoff

[Geoff Cox]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:55:11 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jk******@cs.tut.fiwrote:

>Hello,

My newreader didn't automatically generate an attribution, apparently
because the sender information (From field) is grossly malformed. Does
this suggest anything to you?

Jukka,

I have got myself into a real muddle re how to add an email address
with the .invalid part. Do you know how to do this in Agent v4.2?

I cannot see how to add the "change nospam to gcox and invalid to com"
if I use no****@freeuk.invalid ...

Cheers

Geoff

[Jukka K. Korpela]

Scripsit Geoff Cox:

Jukka,

We are not on a first-name basis.

I have got myself into a real muddle re how to add an email address
with the .invalid part.

I specifically asked you not to change your forged From field until you
have a clue. Having a clue means that you learn how to post to Usenet
and do that learning outside this group, which is devoted to HTML.

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

[Geoff Cox]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:18:50 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jk******@cs.tut.fiwrote:

>Scripsit Geoff Cox:

>Jukka,

We are not on a first-name basis.

I thought I was being polite. My mistake.

>I have got myself into a real muddle re how to add an email address
with the .invalid part.

I specifically asked you not to change your forged From field until you
have a clue. Having a clue means that you learn how to post to Usenet
and do that learning outside this group, which is devoted to HTML.

I can see that but you being the first person to raise this matter I
thought you might like to help me. Again, my mistake.

I think our ability to communicate in a pleasant manner no longer
exists so please do not feel that you have to reply.

Cheers

Geoff

[rf]

"Geoff Cox" <no****@freeuk.invalidwrote in message
news:op********************************@4ax.com...

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:18:50 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jk******@cs.tut.fiwrote:

I think our ability to communicate in a pleasant manner no longer
exists so please do not feel that you have to reply.

You have to be *much* ruder to Korpela. Then he will put you in his killfile
and you won't have to worry about him any more.

[Geoff Cox]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:58:08 GMT, "rf" <[e-mail]:

>
"Geoff Cox" <no****@freeuk.invalidwrote in message
news:op********************************@4ax.com.. .

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:18:50 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jk******@cs.tut.fiwrote:

>I think our ability to communicate in a pleasant manner no longer
exists so please do not feel that you have to reply.

You have to be *much* ruder to Korpela. Then he will put you in his killfile
and you won't have to worry about him any more.

OK!

Cheers

Geoff

[Michael Fesser]

..oO(Jukka K. Korpela)

>Scripsit Geoff Cox:

>Jukka,

We are not on a first-name basis.

Jukka, this is Usenet.

Micha

[David E. Ross]

On 2/26/2008 12:07 AM, Geoff Cox wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:55:11 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jk******@cs.tut.fiwrote:

>>Hello,

My newreader didn't automatically generate an attribution, apparently
because the sender information (From field) is grossly malformed. Does
this suggest anything to you?

Jukka,

I have got myself into a real muddle re how to add an email address
with the .invalid part. Do you know how to do this in Agent v4.2?

I cannot see how to add the "change nospam to gcox and invalid to com"
if I use no****@freeuk.invalid ...

Cheers

Geoff

Munge your E-mail address in the format of a valid address. Leave out
any comments.

Put your instructions to correct the munging in your signature area.
Just be sure your signature has "-- " (dash-dash-space without the
quotes) in the first line above the text; the space is important and
should not be omitted.

I use an alternative. I put my actual E-mail address in the
Organization header of my messages. Also, you can get my E-mail address
if you navigate my Web site, the address of which is in my signature.

Ignore Jukka when he is rude and insulting. Many of us do.

--
David Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Have you been using Netscape and now feel abandoned by AOL?
Then use SeaMonkey. Go to <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>.

[Stan Brown]

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:45 +0000 from <Geoff Cox <<>>>:

I guess so! I was trying to avoid having my email address available,
concerned re spam. Which is the best way ro avoid the spam possibiity?

Get decent filtering. Jukka, and I, and many others still preserve
the basic courtesy of providing correct email addresses.

Sure, spam is an annoyance., But when you pervert Usenet protocols
you collaborate with spammers in worsening Usenet just a little bit
more.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you

[Geoff Cox]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:35 -0800, "David E. Ross"
<no****@nowhere.notwrote:

>Munge your E-mail address in the format of a valid address. Leave out
any comments.

Put your instructions to correct the munging in your signature area.
Just be sure your signature has "-- " (dash-dash-space without the
quotes) in the first line above the text; the space is important and
should not be omitted.

I use an alternative. I put my actual E-mail address in the
Organization header of my messages. Also, you can get my E-mail address
if you navigate my Web site, the address of which is in my signature.

Thanks for these ideas David. Will give it som emore thought.

Cheers

Geoff

[Geoff Cox]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:34 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fmwrote:

>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:45 +0000 from <Geoff Cox <<>>>:

>I guess so! I was trying to avoid having my email address available,
concerned re spam. Which is the best way ro avoid the spam possibiity?

Get decent filtering. Jukka, and I, and many others still preserve
the basic courtesy of providing correct email addresses.

Sure, spam is an annoyance., But when you pervert Usenet protocols
you collaborate with spammers in worsening Usenet just a little bit
more.

Stan,

I can see what you mean.

Cheers

Geoff

[Geoff Cox]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:35 -0800, "David E. Ross"
<no****@nowhere.notwrote:

>Munge your E-mail address in the format of a valid address. Leave out
any comments.

Put your instructions to correct the munging in your signature area.
Just be sure your signature has "-- " (dash-dash-space without the
quotes) in the first line above the text; the space is important and
should not be omitted.

David,

Why the space? If I enter a space the instruction does not appear when
I respond via email to a message which I have posted.

Cheers

Geoff

>
I use an alternative. I put my actual E-mail address in the
Organization header of my messages. Also, you can get my E-mail address
if you navigate my Web site, the address of which is in my signature.

Ignore Jukka when he is rude and insulting. Many of us do.

[Blinky the Shark]

Geoff Cox wrote:

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:35 -0800, "David E. Ross"
<no****@nowhere.notwrote:

>>Munge your E-mail address in the format of a valid address. Leave out
any comments.

Put your instructions to correct the munging in your signature area.
Just be sure your signature has "-- " (dash-dash-space without the
quotes) in the first line above the text; the space is important and
should not be omitted.

David,

Why the space? If I enter a space the instruction does not appear when

Because hyphen-hyphen-space is the convention for delimiting a sig;
because that's what news clients look for to display sigs differently (if
so configured by the user) and to auto snip them when replying.

I respond via email to a message which I have posted.

That's because it's a real sig if thus delimited. News clients can be
configured to auto snip them when replying. That's a feature, not a bug.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

[Geoff Cox]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:15:24 -0800, Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalidwrote:

>Geoff Cox wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:35 -0800, "David E. Ross"
<no****@nowhere.notwrote:

>>>Munge your E-mail address in the format of a valid address. Leave out
any comments.

Put your instructions to correct the munging in your signature area.
Just be sure your signature has "-- " (dash-dash-space without the
quotes) in the first line above the text; the space is important and
should not be omitted.

David,

Why the space? If I enter a space the instruction does not appear when

Because hyphen-hyphen-space is the convention for delimiting a sig;
because that's what news clients look for to display sigs differently (if
so configured by the user) and to auto snip them when replying.

>I respond via email to a message which I have posted.

That's because it's a real sig if thus delimited. News clients can be
configured to auto snip them when replying. That's a feature, not a bug.

Thanks for the explanation.

Cheers

Geoff

[Michael Fesser]

..oO(Stan Brown)

>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:45 +0000 from <Geoff Cox <<>>>:

>I guess so! I was trying to avoid having my email address available,
concerned re spam. Which is the best way ro avoid the spam possibiity?

Get decent filtering. Jukka, and I, and many others still preserve
the basic courtesy of providing correct email addresses.

Sure, spam is an annoyance., But when you pervert Usenet protocols
you collaborate with spammers in worsening Usenet just a little bit
more.

ACK

My current address is in use for many years now. I use it not only for
Usenet, but also for various newsletters and other websites where you
have to give an email address if you want to register for their service.
But thanks to server-side spam filters and a local SpamPal with various
plugins (the most effective being the Bayes filter) my inbox is nearly
spam-free, maybe one or two a day come through. I can live with that.

Micha

[Stan Brown]

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:15:24 -0800 from Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalid>:

That's because it's a real sig if thus delimited. News clients can be
configured to auto snip them when replying. That's a feature, not a bug.

And it reacts extremely badly when [expletive deleted] idiots post
their reply above the quoted material and still use a signature
delimiter. This annoyance is more common than not in the Excel and
Word newsgroups. I've made sporadic efforts to get folks not to
misuse the signature delimiter in this way, but since their own
interface doesn't interpret it as a delimiter they won't acknowledge
it's a problem.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you

[Geoff Cox]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fmwrote:

>It's really dumb to put "address repair" instructions in a signature,
or anywhere other than the address itself. When the bounce message
comes back, those external instructions are no longer available.

Stan,

Any idea how you put this info the address in the latest version of
Agent? I have not found how to do this so far.

Cheers

Geoff
--
for an email reply please change avoidspam to gcox and invalid to com

[Michael Fesser]

..oO(Geoff Cox)

>I have just looked at Spampal and the latest stable version seems to
be from 2005.

Correct, there wasn't much development over the last two years. There
are some postings about the reasons in their forum:

http://www.spampalforums.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1

But I wouldn't worry too much about that. Almost all of the work is done
by the plugins. And hopefully the work on the main program will revive
again in the next months.

>Plus, to have it work with Outlook 2003 you need a beta
version which would be a little worrying.

Hmm, I don't know about Outlook. Here on my machine SpamPal runs as a
proxy which simply listens on the POP3 port. My Agent connects to the
localhost with some special login credentials, then SpamPal logs-in to
the real server and fetches the mails. Nothing special.

Micha

[David E. Ross]

With some applications, you can set them to place the signature at the
end even when you top-post. That's what I did for Thunderbird for this
reply. (Normally, I bottom post.)

On 2/27/2008 4:13 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:15:24 -0800 from Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalid>:

>That's because it's a real sig if thus delimited. News clients can be
configured to auto snip them when replying. That's a feature, not a bug.

And it reacts extremely badly when [expletive deleted] idiots post
their reply above the quoted material and still use a signature
delimiter. This annoyance is more common than not in the Excel and
Word newsgroups. I've made sporadic efforts to get folks not to
misuse the signature delimiter in this way, but since their own
interface doesn't interpret it as a delimiter they won't acknowledge
it's a problem.

--
David Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Have you been using Netscape and now feel abandoned by AOL?
Then use SeaMonkey. Go to <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>.

[Dr J R Stockton]

In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html message <mfudnYtFKdQc91nanZ2dnUVZ
_q******@softcom.net>, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:35, David E. Ross
<no****@nowhere.notposted:

>
I use an alternative. I put my actual E-mail address in the
Organization header of my messages.

Be aware that newsreaders do not necessarily display the Organization in
the common or default view. So you should IMHO put an allusion in your
signature.

--
(c) John Stockton, nr London UK. replyYYWW merlyn demon co uk Turnpike 6.05.
Web <URL:http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html-Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/news-use.htm: about usage of News.
No Encoding. Quotes precede replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Mail no News.

[Geoff Cox]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:44:22 +0100, Michael Fesser <ne*****@gmx.de>
wrote:

>.oO(Geoff Cox)

>>I have just looked at Spampal and the latest stable version seems to
be from 2005.

Correct, there wasn't much development over the last two years. There
are some postings about the reasons in their forum:

http://www.spampalforums.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1

But I wouldn't worry too much about that. Almost all of the work is done
by the plugins. And hopefully the work on the main program will revive
again in the next months.

>>Plus, to have it work with Outlook 2003 you need a beta
version which would be a little worrying.

Hmm, I don't know about Outlook. Here on my machine SpamPal runs as a
proxy which simply listens on the POP3 port. My Agent connects to the
localhost with some special login credentials, then SpamPal logs-in to
the real server and fetches the mails. Nothing special.

Micha

Thanks Micha - will have another try. The link for the Bayes plugin
doesn't provide any download at the moment.

Cheers

Geoff
--
for an email reply please change avoidspam to gcox and invalid to com

[Stan Brown]

Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:40:08 +0000 from Geoff Cox
<av*******@freeuk.invalid>:

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fmwrote:

It's really dumb to put "address repair" instructions in a signature,
or anywhere other than the address itself. When the bounce message
comes back, those external instructions are no longer available.

Any idea how you put this info the address in the latest version of
Agent? I have not found how to do this so far.

You must not have read what I've written in this thread, or you
wouldn't be asking me that question.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you

[Stan Brown]

Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:28:47 -0800 from David E. Ross
<no****@nowhere.not>:

On 2/27/2008 4:13 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:15:24 -0800 from Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalid>:

That's because it's a real sig if thus delimited. News clients can be
configured to auto snip them when replying. That's a feature, not a bug.

And it reacts extremely badly when [expletive deleted] idiots post
their reply above the quoted material and still use a signature
delimiter. This annoyance is more common than not in the Excel and
Word newsgroups. I've made sporadic efforts to get folks not to
misuse the signature delimiter in this way, but since their own
interface doesn't interpret it as a delimiter they won't acknowledge
it's a problem.

With some applications, you can set them to place the signature at the
end even when you top-post.

People who won't admit they're creating a problem aren't going to set
their newsreaders to fix that problem.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you

[Blinky the Shark]

Stan Brown wrote:

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:15:24 -0800 from Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalid>:

>That's because it's a real sig if thus delimited. News clients can be
configured to auto snip them when replying. That's a feature, not a
bug.

And it reacts extremely badly when [expletive deleted] idiots post their
reply above the quoted material and still use a signature delimiter.
This annoyance is more common than not in the Excel and Word newsgroups.

Sure. They're full of WinWieners. ;)

I've made sporadic efforts to get folks not to misuse the signature
delimiter in this way, but since their own interface doesn't interpret
it as a delimiter they won't acknowledge it's a problem.

Aye. :(

--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

[Blinky the Shark]

David E. Ross wrote:

With some applications, you can set them to place the signature at the
end even when you top-post. That's what I did for Thunderbird for this
reply. (Normally, I bottom post.)

Sure, but you can guess what everybody in those Excel/Word groups is
using. Anyway, the problem is top posting, wherever the sig is placed.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

[Geoff Cox]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:42:26 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fmwrote:

>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:40:08 +0000 from Geoff Cox
<av*******@freeuk.invalid>:

>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:16:15 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fmwrote:

>It's really dumb to put "address repair" instructions in a signature,
or anywhere other than the address itself. When the bounce message
comes back, those external instructions are no longer available.

Any idea how you put this info the address in the latest version of
Agent? I have not found how to do this so far.

You must not have read what I've written in this thread, or you
wouldn't be asking me that question.

Stan,

You say that "It's really dumb to put "address repair" instructions in
a signature, or anywhere other than the address itself" and I am
asking how to do this in Agent. I don't see that you have written how
to do this - have you? I must be missing something?!

Cheers

Geoff
--
for an email reply please change avoidspam to gcox and invalid to com

[Stan Brown]

Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:15:51 -0800 from Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalid>:

Stan Brown wrote:

It's really dumb to put "address repair" instructions in a signature, or
anywhere other than the address itself. When the bounce message comes
back, those external instructions are no longer available.

The idea is to be alert enough to do the repair before you send the email.

Blinky, I'm surprised at you of all people. The idea is to follow
Usenet protocol and use a valid email address.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you

[Blinky the Shark]

Stan Brown wrote:

Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:15:51 -0800 from Blinky the Shark
<no*****@box.invalid>:

>Stan Brown wrote:

It's really dumb to put "address repair" instructions in a signature, or
anywhere other than the address itself. When the bounce message comes
back, those external instructions are no longer available.

The idea is to be alert enough to do the repair before you send the email.

Blinky, I'm surprised at you of all people. The idea is to follow
Usenet protocol and use a valid email address.

Don't be surprised; this isn't the spammer-free and kook-free Usenet of
1973.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net