So here I am on Safari. How do I look?
You've set up your page differently and now things look the same.
I know. Im not sure what was happening. i think it must of been all the absolute positioning. so i found some clear all defaults css on the web and then went back to a simpler layout. just kept it all in the flow with static positioning and laid it out using margins and padding on the different elements or divs. i just checked it across on the pc fox and ie6 and all seems good there too. so maybe i'll just settle down and remember not to make things harder than they have to be. thanks for your help doc. if you wanna try to figure it out, the page in question is still up at this address
http://www.dmcfarland.net/index-2.html
it baffles me, so any thoughts would be welcome
cheers and thanks again for your help,
derker