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I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my computer
so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the web.

I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need anything
expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web artists can see my
work and give me their opinion/suggestions.

What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my computer?
Where do I go? What do I download?

Any help is much appreciated.

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Dec 2 '07 #1
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In article <7c1019b809dcd@uwe>,
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote:
I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my computer
so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the web.

I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need anything
expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web artists can see my
work and give me their opinion/suggestions.

What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my computer?
Where do I go? What do I download?

Any help is much appreciated.
You are on what computer?

You can have your own server and/or you can just load things to
an external server. Why not just use a ready set up external
server and put up your work and give the address to your artist
friends. Your own iSP usually gives you a certain amount of
webspace for free. Why not use that for a while first? Al you
need is the address of that space allotted to you on the ISP
server and an FTP program to upload your files.

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Dec 2 '07 #2
Al you
>need is the address of that space allotted to you on the ISP
server and an FTP program to upload your files.
So basically, all I need to do is talk to my Internet provider and upload my
files through the Dreamweaver program....that's it?

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Dec 2 '07 #3
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my computer
so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the web.
You don't "need" a local server, but it can be very useful. However,
you can simply edit your files locally, upload them to your live online
server, then view them in your browser to validate the edits. If you're
doing basic things, this may actually be less hassle than learning
enough to install and manage a local server.
I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need anything
expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web artists can see my
work and give me their opinion/suggestions.

What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my computer?
Where do I go? What do I download?

Any help is much appreciated.
apache is probably the most used server software on the Web. It's Open
Source and free for the download.

I recently set up a local Web server on my Windows XP PC for exactly
that purpose: Testing my site before uploading to my online server.

The best thing is to have the same server locally that you have online.
You'll need to figure out what server technology you're using online:
Apache, Windows, etc. Usually it'll be either Apache (free) or
Windows. I only have experience with Apache. My online server (through
1 and 1 dot com) is a Linux-based Apache system. So, I downloaded
Apache (the same version as my online system) and installed it on my PC.
I also downloaded and installed PHP because I'm using that online.

Some links for info on Apache:
http://www.google.com/search?query=a...0server&num=50
http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/apache.shtml
http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Co...ndows-XP-PC/1/
http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Co...ndows-XP-PC/2/
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/index.html
http://download.nextag.com/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/

Links for PHP:
http://www.php.net/

None of this is for the faint-of-heart. However, if you read a lot and
take it slow you can do it. Heck, I did!

Also, these newsgroups, though not for newbies, will receive questions
fairly gracefully:
alt.apache.configuration
comp.lang.php

Once successfully installed and running, the local server allows you to
completely test your pages prior to uploading to a Web server. It can
also be useful in resolving relative paths and troubleshooting PHP,
..htaccess, and other issues. Depending on how involved your Web site
construction is it can be extremely helpful. On the other hand, if
you're doing a simple utilization of your ISP's free Web hosting, you
may be just as well served by setting up your local directory structure
to match your online structure and leave it at that. It's more
complicated than that but this should get you started.

Also, these links may be helpful:
http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess.shtml
http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/creating/include.html
http://www.w3schools.com/php/func_date_date.asp
http://www.hybrid6.com/webgeek/2006/...ext-in-php.php

I use all of the techniques, in one way or another, on my pages which
are reached via the links in my sig.

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Dec 2 '07 #4
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my
computer so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the
web.
Do you have a Windows computer? Win2K, XP?
I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need
anything expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web
artists can see my work and give me their opinion/suggestions.
How about free?
What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my
computer? Where do I go? What do I download?
WAMP

http://www.wampserver.com/en/

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Dec 2 '07 #5
In article <7c109562da2f4@uwe>,
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote:
Al you
need is the address of that space allotted to you on the ISP
server and an FTP program to upload your files.

So basically, all I need to do is talk to my Internet provider and upload my
files through the Dreamweaver program....that's it?
Actually, not even as much as that. Just to simply show your
artistic work, strictly speaking, all you need is a digital photo
file of your work, and you upload that to your space directly.
You grab the pic file and you plonk it on the part of the window
in your FTP program that means "put this file on the server
here". You then note the address and hand it about.

Naturally you will eventually want to get a bit more
sophisticated and have a nice html page with 'clickable to
larger' thumbnails. You may even fall to the temptation of
wanting to talk a lot of about your pictures <g>.

The latter means you will need an HTML page or two and that is
where some people bring Dreamweaver in. You are better off not
using DW even then but this is a long story...

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Dec 2 '07 #6
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>Al you
need is the address of that space allotted to you on the ISP
server and an FTP program to upload your files.

So basically, all I need to do is talk to my Internet provider and upload my
files through the Dreamweaver program....that's it?
Yes, if all you are doing is very basic HTML pages using the standard
ISP-provided Web space.

But an online server is totally different from running a local server.
A local server allows you to test edits to your pages without being
online. It replicates (properly set up) your online configuration. See
my other reply.

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Dec 2 '07 #7
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my
computer so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the
web.

Do you have a Windows computer? Win2K, XP?
>I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need
anything expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web
artists can see my work and give me their opinion/suggestions.

How about free?
>What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my
computer? Where do I go? What do I download?

WAMP

http://www.wampserver.com/en/
Thanks for the advice. I have a Windows XP. Hopefully I can get some type of
server tech downloaded. It'll make things easier when getting other designers
like you guys to critique my code.

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Dec 2 '07 #8
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my
computer so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the
web.

Do you have a Windows computer? Win2K, XP?
>I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need
anything expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web
artists can see my work and give me their opinion/suggestions.

How about free?
>What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my
computer? Where do I go? What do I download?

WAMP

http://www.wampserver.com/en/
Actually, the files for this link were corrupted.

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Dec 2 '07 #9
>http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Co...ndows-XP-PC/1/
>http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Co...ndows-XP-PC/2/
After clicking on the links above, I'm having trouble finding the link "Win32
Binary (MSI Installer): apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi".

This is where it tells me to click but I'm having trouble finding it.

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Dec 2 '07 #10
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:02:29 GMT, in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets "LayneMitch via
WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwe>
<7c1019b809dcd@uwewrote:
>| I was just chating with a few webdevelopers and it was brought to my
| attention that I need some type of server technology installed on my computer
| so I could get a visual of how my sites would look on the web.
|
| I'm completely new to the server technology stuff and don't need anything
| expensive - only for testing purposes and so other web artists can see my
| work and give me their opinion/suggestions.
|
| What is the process of getting server/hosting technology on my computer?
| Where do I go? What do I download?
|
| Any help is much appreciated.
Adding to the other recommendations: try WOS (Web Ona Stick)
http://www.chsoftware.net/en/useware/wos/wos.htm

This allows you to install Apache, php, mysql and other server apps on
a USB drive.

I now just take my USB drive to my clients, plug it into their
computer, fire up WOS.exe and I'm set to go.
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Dec 2 '07 #11
Ed Mullen,

I managed to download an Apache version from this link:

http://mirror.fslutd.org/apache/http...x86-no_ssl.msi
I'm trying to configure the httpd file while following the listed
instructions on one of the links you provided.

I then restarted Apache and "The Operation Has Failed" message appeared.

Since you are familiar with this, do you want to provide an email so I can
send you a notepad copy of the edits to the httpd file and you can observe?

For that matter, if any of you know about Apache configuration and would like
me to submit the notepad file...please feel free to provide me a way in which
I can get it over to you. Thanks.

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Dec 2 '07 #12
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>WAMP

http://www.wampserver.com/en/

Actually, the files for this link were corrupted.
What files? Did you download: WampServer2.0a.exe [19.5MB]
from this page:
http://www.wampserver.com/en/download.php

That one install file gets you the following, all nicely installed and
ready to run:

Apache 2.2.6
PHP 5.2.5 + PECL
SQLitemanager
MySQL 5.0.45
Phpmyadmin

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Dec 2 '07 #13
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Co...ndows-XP-PC/1/
http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Co...ndows-XP-PC/2/

After clicking on the links above, I'm having trouble finding the link "Win32
Binary (MSI Installer): apache_2.0.49-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi".

This is where it tells me to click but I'm having trouble finding it.
Here you will find the MSI

http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/
Index of /dist/httpd/binaries/win32

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Dec 2 '07 #14
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
Ed Mullen,

I managed to download an Apache version from this link:

http://mirror.fslutd.org/apache/http...x86-no_ssl.msi
I'm trying to configure the httpd file while following the listed
instructions on one of the links you provided.

I then restarted Apache and "The Operation Has Failed" message appeared.

Since you are familiar with this, do you want to provide an email so I can
send you a notepad copy of the edits to the httpd file and you can observe?

For that matter, if any of you know about Apache configuration and would like
me to submit the notepad file...please feel free to provide me a way in which
I can get it over to you. Thanks.
I'm not an Apache guru by any means. I managed to get things running
here but I'm not sure I'd do you much good troubleshooting your
installation problem. Try posting a detailed message on the
alt.apache.configuration newsgroup.

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Dec 2 '07 #15
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>
I need some type of server technology installed on my computer
This is completely off-topic for this newsgroup.

I strongly encourage both you and those who have already given you
assistance to find a more appropriate newsgroup in the future. There are
plenty to choose from, such as alt.www.webmaster or even alt.html

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Dec 3 '07 #16
Try posting a detailed message on the alt.apache.configuration newsgroup.

Okay..will do so.. Thanks for all of your assistance and also everyone else's.
I should be able to figure this thing out.

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Dec 3 '07 #17
>Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>http://www.wampserver.com/en/download.php

That one install file gets you the following, all nicely installed and
ready to run:

Apache 2.2.6
PHP 5.2.5 + PECL
SQLitemanager
MySQL 5.0.45
Phpmyadmin
Okay, I've successfully downloaded the WAMP server (after hours of
unsuccessfully trying from the Apache site).

Now, are there any specific configurations that you had to do for the WAMP
server program?

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Dec 4 '07 #18
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>>Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
http://www.wampserver.com/en/download.php
...

Okay, I've successfully downloaded the WAMP server (after hours of
unsuccessfully trying from the Apache site).

Now, are there any specific configurations that you had to do for the
WAMP server program?
On a Win2K box here, all I had to do was execute the downloaded install
program. I do not remember any caveats.

Learn what "localhost" is, if you haven't already.

http://localhost/path-to-site/index.php

...which should be the equivalent of
C:\wamp\www\path-to-site\index.php

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Dec 4 '07 #19
>Learn what "localhost" is, if you haven't already.
>
http://localhost/path-to-site/index.php

..which should be the equivalent of
C:\wamp\www\path-to-site\index.php
Okay,

so I've noticed that "C:\wamp\www" happens to be a folder inside of my C
drive. Is this where I save my site images and HTML/CSS files too? I'm
guessing I assign a specific URL to reference my HTML files as well.....

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Dec 4 '07 #20
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:

[Beauregard wrote:]
>>Learn what "localhost" is, if you haven't already.

http://localhost/path-to-site/index.php

..which should be the equivalent of
C:\wamp\www\path-to-site\index.php

Okay,

so I've noticed that "C:\wamp\www" happens to be a folder inside of my
C drive. Is this where I save my site images and HTML/CSS files too?
I'm guessing I assign a specific URL to reference my HTML files as
well.....
On my installation, I have several sites there.

C:\wamp\www\firstsite\
C:\wamp\www\secondsite\
C:\wamp\www\thirdsite\
C:\wamp\www\fourthsite\
C:\wamp\www\test\

so calling each in my browsers is a matter of using:

http://localhost/firstsite/index.php
http://localhost/secondsite/index.php etc.

and so forth. If you only ever plan to have one site, you could use
C:\wamp\www\ and http://localhost/
as its root, though planning ahead is always wise.

Use a short, common, relative word for each, in place of "firstsite" of
course.

Consider using an editor such as Crimson Editor for your work, as it is
also an excellent project manager.
http://crimsoneditor.com/

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Dec 4 '07 #21
>Bad move.
>
Why don't you want to use the proper structure?
So I should change it back? I only did it because it was suggested when I
attempted to install Apache. But I'll change it if it's necessary.

Also, what is the difference between relative and absolute pathing?

I'm going to also post this question as a thread to get different views.

Thanks for everything.

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Dec 4 '07 #22
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:

[Beauregard wrote: (please don't snip attributes)]
>>Bad move.

Why don't you want to use the proper structure?

So I should change it back? I only did it because it was suggested
when I attempted to install Apache. But I'll change it if it's
necessary.
The way I see it, the "www" directory is designed to hold your web
pages. "www" = World Wide Web, where you transfer your pages after
development, without worrying about directory names.
Also, what is the difference between relative and absolute pathing?
Relative:
../images/filename.jpg
../style/firstsite.css

Absolute:
http://firstsite/images/filename.jpg
http://firstsite/style/firstsite.css
I'm going to also post this question as a thread to get different
views.
If you wish. Remember, this is USENET, not some web forum masquerading
as a place to post questions to other web forum users...

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Dec 5 '07 #23
>If you wish. Remember, this is USENET, not some web forum masquerading
>as a place to post questions to other web forum users...
Okay,

I got it from here. Thanks of all or your expertise. With your response I
don't need to post the relative/absolute question. I understand it.

Oh, and my apologies. I've been told that twice so far that this is USENET.
So after being told twice I'd better start using the appropriate terminology.
Thanks

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Dec 5 '07 #24
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>>If you wish. Remember, this is USENET, not some web forum masquerading
as a place to post questions to other web forum users...

Okay,

I got it from here. Thanks of all or your expertise. With your response I
don't need to post the relative/absolute question. I understand it.

Oh, and my apologies. I've been told that twice so far that this is USENET.
So after being told twice I'd better start using the appropriate terminology.
You might also consider using the appropriate software, which is not a web
browser.

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Dec 5 '07 #25
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
>
>If you wish. Remember, this is USENET, not some web forum masquerading
as a place to post questions to other web forum users...
Okay,

I got it from here. Thanks of all or your expertise. With your response I
don't need to post the relative/absolute question. I understand it.

Oh, and my apologies. I've been told that twice so far that this is USENET.
So after being told twice I'd better start using the appropriate
terminology.
After all this, I hope you have not forgotten the simplest of
things, you do not actually need a home server if you are online
mostly. I notice a while back a poster said it was a totally
different thing to have a home server adding that this was
because you could see off line what you are likely to see online.

I now remind you that you can see what your web pages look like
online by being online and looking. It slightly worries me that
you might be forgetting that you do not *have to have* a home
server to show your artist friends your work.

Unless your friends or the public at large are going to see stuff
via your own home server, all your configuring of your server
will do is teach you about how to configure servers, this may be
very interesting or not to you. It may be useful too in saving
your bandwidth.

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Dec 5 '07 #26
>Unless your friends or the public at large are going to see stuff
>via your own home server, all your configuring of your server
will do is teach you about how to configure servers, this may be
very interesting or not to you. It may be useful too in saving
your bandwidth.
The purpose of me trying to establish some server tech is because if you (for
example) want to observe my work to correct or provide insight into the code
that was used, then I can just send you a link. I can't do that without a
host. Are you saying I can?

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Dec 6 '07 #27
>If you wish. Remember, this is USENET, not some web forum masquerading
>as a place to post questions to other web forum users...
Mr. Shagnasty,

One last question...lol. : )

I've set the files up on the server through Dreamweaver. I've have all the
files arranged appropriately and my site is showing when I type in the
address bar - http://localhost/"mysite"/index.html.

But how do I get it to show in other computers or anyone else's computer? The
server is on. There must be one last configuration I need to do.

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Dec 6 '07 #28
In article <7c431a3f18fdd@uwe>,
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote:
Unless your friends or the public at large are going to see stuff
via your own home server, all your configuring of your server
will do is teach you about how to configure servers, this may be
very interesting or not to you. It may be useful too in saving
your bandwidth.

The purpose of me trying to establish some server tech is because if you (for
example) want to observe my work to correct or provide insight into the code
that was used, then I can just send you a link. I can't do that without a
host. Are you saying I can?
I have suspected from the beginning that there is some
misunderstanding or not full appreciation of the whole situation.
You have landed among a bunch of highly technical folk here who
will send anyone on any technical mission at the drop of a hat.
<g>. I am here to protect the public. I have helped support a
refuge for artists who have been turned into gibbering idiots
from becoming distracted and distraught from the thing they are
really good at, namely their art, to pursue technical hobbies
that are strictly not necessary to them.

Of course, you need a server to give friends a decko at your
work. But it does *not* have to be your *very own* server. There
are many free servers external to your home or office that you
can use and there are countless that you can pay for. You
probably have one right now that you are not using, namely the
ISP that is giving you the ability to communicate here (unless
you are using an internet cafe?). Most ISPs give you a bit of
free space.

But if you are serious about your work and it is an ongoing
project you better get yourself a domain name and then you host
it cheaply somewhere or whatever your needs and finances dictate.

The good folk here, to answer another part of your question, will
be able to see your source mark up fine. Anyone can see this by
going to an address your page is on and choosing View Source from
a menu command in most browsers.

Please forgive me if I have not followed the whole thread. But my
impression is you might not be quite appreciating the above
possibilities.

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Dec 6 '07 #29
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote:
news:7c43268178aa9@uwe:

[snip]
I've set the files up on the server through Dreamweaver. I've have all
the files arranged appropriately and my site is showing when I type in
the address bar - http://localhost/"mysite"/index.html.

But how do I get it to show in other computers or anyone else's
computer? The server is on. There must be one last configuration I
need to do.
Use your IP address in place of localhost or use no-ip.

http://tinyurl.com/7k3mu

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Dec 6 '07 #30
>Please forgive me if I have not followed the whole thread. But my
>impression is you might not be quite appreciating the above
possibilities.
Lol....Thanks for looking out.

I've contacted my ISP and they said they don't provide any free space. So my
thinking was that I just get some cheap server for now because my sites won't
have any high degree of bandwidth for now anyways...(until I start learning
Actionscript/Flash).

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Dec 6 '07 #31
BootNic wrote:
>Use your IP address in place of localhost or use no-ip.

http://tinyurl.com/7k3mu

What do you mean by no-ip? How would that work?

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Dec 6 '07 #32
In article <7c437550d4f27@uwe>,
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote:
Please forgive me if I have not followed the whole thread. But my
impression is you might not be quite appreciating the above
possibilities.

Lol....Thanks for looking out.

I've contacted my ISP and they said they don't provide any free space. So my
thinking was that I just get some cheap server for now because my sites won't
have any high degree of bandwidth for now anyways...(until I start learning
Actionscript/Flash).
OK, your ISP does not give you free space. There are other ISPs
who will. And, if you must stay with your ISP, you can get free
servers elsewhere. Some have ads on them (eg, tripod.com,
150.com), but there are some, I understand that do not or at
least do not intrude too much on your web offerings. Some are
pointed out here over the years by people who can be presumed to
know what they are talking about. I am sorry I have not got the
name of any ad-free ones right this moment. But you can search
the Google archives for this newsgroup and others.

Here is another tip. Many if not most ISPs provide you with a
modest amount of free space which are almost overwhelmingly not
used by their customers. Most customers just browse the internet
and use email. Right? So that means, unless there is some
statistical anomaly in your circle, most of your friends will
simply not be using their space. So you might ask to use it. It
is easier than setting up a home server and fixing trouble with
it! All you need is their customer user number and password and
you can simply access the server space via an FTP program. You
will be quite ethical and your friends will trust you and you
will not poke about beyond the simple server space.

--
dorayme
Dec 6 '07 #33
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote: news:7c43774f332a2
@uwe:
BootNic wrote:
>>Use your IP address in place of localhost or use no-ip.

http://tinyurl.com/7k3mu

What do you mean by no-ip? How would that work?
Did you notice the url that was provided?

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Every time I close the door on reality it comes in through the
windows.
*Jennifer Unlimited*
Dec 6 '07 #34
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
Mr. Shagnasty,

One last question...lol. : )
Aww, just one?
I've set the files up on the server through Dreamweaver. I've have all
the files arranged appropriately and my site is showing when I type
in the address bar - http://localhost/"mysite"/index.html.
That's a good start. At least it shows you have the server working ok.
But how do I get it to show in other computers or anyone else's
computer? The server is on. There must be one last configuration I
need to do.
Are you on a full-time broadband account?
Go to http://whatismyipaddress.com/ and note the number.

Your site would then be visible via that number.
http://123.456.78.90/mysite/index.html

However, do realize that if you post such a link here, you are telling
every reader on the planet the address of your computer and its server
(probably unsecured), and you open yourself to .. well .. almost
anything.

If you are behind a router, it will probably stop outside access.

My recommendation of WAMP was so you could develop your site - on a real
server - then copy the files to a public server somewhere. That's what a
lot of us do. Develop, test, tweak, refine, on the home computer, then
when ready, copy it to the WWW.

As dorayme suggests, find a free place. Maybe something here will work:
http://www.free-webhosts.com/

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Dec 6 '07 #35
BootNic wrote:
>"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote: news:7c43774f332a2
@uwe:
>>>Use your IP address in place of localhost or use no-ip.

http://tinyurl.com/7k3mu

What do you mean by no-ip? How would that work?

Did you notice the url that was provided?
Yeah, I did after I sent that response. I'm trying to figure out how it works.
I signed up already. But I should be able to get it figured out. Thanks

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Dec 6 '07 #36
>My recommendation of WAMP was so you could develop your site - on a real
>server - then copy the files to a public server somewhere. That's what a
lot of us do. Develop, test, tweak, refine, on the home computer, then
when ready, copy it to the WWW.

As dorayme suggests, find a free place. Maybe something here will work:
http://www.free-webhosts.com/

Okay, got it.

I'll see what's up with the free-webhosts.com as well as the hidden IP link
provided above. If all else fails, I'll put an end to this, pay for some real
hosting space and register a domain.

Thanks once again.

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Dec 6 '07 #37
rf

"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwewrote in message
news:7c44bf6528fc5@uwe...
My recommendation of WAMP was so you could develop your site - on a real
server - then copy the files to a public server somewhere. That's what a
lot of us do. Develop, test, tweak, refine, on the home computer, then
when ready, copy it to the WWW.

As dorayme suggests, find a free place. Maybe something here will work:
http://www.free-webhosts.com/


Okay, got it.

I'll see what's up with the free-webhosts.com as well as the hidden IP
link
provided above. If all else fails, I'll put an end to this, pay for some
real
hosting space and register a domain.
[In the U S of A] The cost of a domain name and hosting for a year is way
less then the price of a dinner out for two.

--
Richard.
Dec 6 '07 #38
In article <Kq*****************@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"rf" <rf@invalid.comwrote:
[In the U S of A] The cost of a domain name and hosting for a year is way
less then the price of a dinner out for two.
Less than $18.60 for two? That's what an excellent Viet place in
Illawarra Rd M'ville does cost. The meal is usually distraction
enough; but if necessary, talk a lot and fast with your partner
so they don't notice how cheap it is.

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dorayme
Dec 6 '07 #39
dorayme wrote:
>[In the U S of A] The cost of a domain name and hosting for a year is way
less then the price of a dinner out for two.

Less than $18.60 for two? That's what an excellent Viet place in
Illawarra Rd M'ville does cost. The meal is usually distraction
enough; but if necessary, talk a lot and fast with your partner
so they don't notice how cheap it is.
Yeah....

Thanks guys..this project is over. I'm just getting a domain and hosting
space from godaddy.com.

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Dec 6 '07 #40
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
dorayme wrote:
>>[In the U S of A] The cost of a domain name and hosting for a
year is way less then the price of a dinner out for two.

Less than $18.60 for two? That's what an excellent Viet place in
Illawarra Rd M'ville does cost. The meal is usually distraction
enough; but if necessary, talk a lot and fast with your partner
so they don't notice how cheap it is.

Yeah....

Thanks guys..this project is over. I'm just getting a domain and
hosting space from godaddy.com.
In the face of the advice to not register and host with the same
company?
--
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Dec 6 '07 #41
LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:
I'll see what's up with the free-webhosts.com as well as the hidden IP link
provided above. If all else fails, I'll put an end to this, pay for some real
hosting space and register a domain.
When you go for a host, I would recommend that you go for a provider who
will allow you to write your own CGI scripts, and in the language of
your choice. This is what decided my ISP for me - my friend Dougie who
runs his Linux server in his garage.
We setup suexec so my scripts cannot do anything that my userid cannot
do, and he installed my favourite scripting language, Open Object Rexx,
and mySQL for my data.

--
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk
Dec 7 '07 #42

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