Framed Web Forwarding; Back Button Problem

[mcl]

I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.

I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.

If I look at back History (In Firefox) there are two entries for my
original page and if I select the second one then I go back to my
original framed page. In Opera the back button gives a blank page and
in IE7 it behaves like Firefox.

How can I get the back button to return from an external site or is
there some magic trick to keep it within my frame.

Thank You

Richard

[David E. Ross]

On 10/13/2007 3:19 AM, mcl wrote:

I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.

I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.

If I look at back History (In Firefox) there are two entries for my
original page and if I select the second one then I go back to my
original framed page. In Opera the back button gives a blank page and
in IE7 it behaves like Firefox.

How can I get the back button to return from an external site or is
there some magic trick to keep it within my frame.

Thank You

Richard

Why are you using frames? Too many Web pages use frames for the wrong
reason, often to show how clever the author is. You should use frames
only when part of a page really should remain visible as the user
scrolls through the rest of the page.

The Medicare Web site at <http://www.medicare.gov/default.asphas some
of the worst use of frames I have ever seen. When viewing my claims,
the primary frame gives an extreme definition of letterbox; and it
cannot be resized to expose more information without scrolling.

Many frame pages defeat any attempt to view one frame in a window of its
own; this is extremely annoying. Putting someone else's Web page in a
frame of your own might even be a copyright violation.

On the other hand, the California Highway Patrol incident report pages
at <http://cad.chp.ca.gov/make excellent use of frames. Select an
incident in the middle frame, and details will appear in the bottom
frame. Select an item in one of the three pull-down lists in the top
frame, and the content of the middle frame changes. Note that the user
can adjust the frame boundaries.

Of course, if you posted a link to your page, we might be able to give a
more specific answer.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

[André Gillibert]

mcl wrote:

I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.

I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.

Please, give a link.
From the symptoms you described, I think it may come from a <meta
http-equiv=refereshelement in one of your HTML pages.

--
If you've a question that doesn't belong to Usenet, contact me at
<ta*****************@yahoDELETETHATo.fr>

[mcl]

On Oct 14, 1:27 pm, "André Gillibert"
<[e-mail]:

mcl wrote:

I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.

I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.

Please, give a link.
From the symptoms you described, I think it may come from a <meta
http-equiv=refereshelement in one of your HTML pages.

--
If you've a question that doesn't belong to Usenet, contact me at
<[e-mail]>

Thank you for your replies.

The site is www.mclbooks.co.uk

and when I link to 'Dales & Lakes' Book Centre the back button does
not return me to my site

I use a frame because, it seems the best option for my site as it does
not matter where I host my site, the url will be consistent and I do
not need to keep changing the domain to different providers.

It is the ISP (123-Reg) that creates the frame as part of WEB
forwarding.

Thanks

Richard

[David E. Ross]

On 10/15/2007 5:52 AM, mcl wrote:

On Oct 14, 1:27 pm, "André Gillibert"
<[e-mail]:

>mcl wrote:

>>I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.
I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.

Please, give a link.
From the symptoms you described, I think it may come from a <meta
http-equiv=refereshelement in one of your HTML pages.

--
If you've a question that doesn't belong to Usenet, contact me at
<[e-mail]>

Thank you for your replies.

The site is www.mclbooks.co.uk

and when I link to 'Dales & Lakes' Book Centre the back button does
not return me to my site

See "Use standard redirects: don't break the back button!" at
<http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback>. The problem is most likely in the
'Dales & Lakes' Web page or its host.

I use a frame because, it seems the best option for my site as it does
not matter where I host my site, the url will be consistent and I do
not need to keep changing the domain to different providers.

Frames do not have anything to do with rehosting. You have your own
domain. If you change hosts, you merely request your new host to handle
the change to the domain name servers (DNSs).

It is the ISP (123-Reg) that creates the frame as part of WEB
forwarding.

You have a frame page with a single frame. The source HTML indicates
two frames, but the second one has no SRC attribute to load a second
frame. This is very bad design. If your ISP causes this, you must
discuss this with your ISP.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

[mcl]

On 15 Oct, 18:38, "David E. Ross" <[e-mail]:

On 10/15/2007 5:52 AM, mcl wrote:

On Oct 14, 1:27 pm, "André Gillibert"
<[e-mail]:

mcl wrote:
I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.
I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.
Please, give a link.
From the symptoms you described, I think it may come from a <meta
http-equiv=refereshelement in one of your HTML pages.

--
If you've a question that doesn't belong to Usenet, contact me at
<[e-mail]>

Thank you for your replies.

The site iswww.mclbooks.co.uk

and when I link to 'Dales & Lakes' Book Centre the back button does
not return me to my site

See "Use standard redirects: don't break the back button!" at
<http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback>. The problem is most likely in the
'Dales & Lakes' Web page or its host.

I use a frame because, it seems the best option for my site as it does
not matter where I host my site, the url will be consistent and I do
not need to keep changing the domain to different providers.

Frames do not have anything to do with rehosting. You have your own
domain. If you change hosts, you merely request your new host to handle
the change to the domain name servers (DNSs).

It is the ISP (123-Reg) that creates the frame as part of WEB
forwarding.

You have a frame page with a single frame. The source HTML indicates
two frames, but the second one has no SRC attribute to load a second
frame. This is very bad design. If your ISP causes this, you must
discuss this with your ISP.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

David,

Thank you for your reply. I think I understand what you are saying
and as my Back Button History in Firefox is generating two entries, it
seems to explain it exactly. The first entry must be the empty frame,
which in Opera does return an empty frame and the second one which
never gets accessed by using the back button, is my original site.

I have emailed my problem to my ISP and await their comments.

Your comment made me smile, as someone who suffers from an overload of
good advice.

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

Thank You

Richard

[mcl]

On 15 Oct, 18:38, "David E. Ross" <[e-mail]:

On 10/15/2007 5:52 AM, mcl wrote:

On Oct 14, 1:27 pm, "André Gillibert"
<[e-mail]:

mcl wrote:
I have a domain name which is set up for web forwarding with a frame.
I have a link on one of the site's pages to an external site.
When I select the link the external site is displayed correctly with
its own URL in the address bar.
When I select the <backbutton in the browser, my domain name appears
temporarily in the browser, but it returns to the external site.
Please, give a link.
From the symptoms you described, I think it may come from a <meta
http-equiv=refereshelement in one of your HTML pages.

--
If you've a question that doesn't belong to Usenet, contact me at
<[e-mail]>

Thank you for your replies.

The site iswww.mclbooks.co.uk

and when I link to 'Dales & Lakes' Book Centre the back button does
not return me to my site

See "Use standard redirects: don't break the back button!" at
<http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback>. The problem is most likely in the
'Dales & Lakes' Web page or its host.

I use a frame because, it seems the best option for my site as it does
not matter where I host my site, the url will be consistent and I do
not need to keep changing the domain to different providers.

Frames do not have anything to do with rehosting. You have your own
domain. If you change hosts, you merely request your new host to handle
the change to the domain name servers (DNSs).

It is the ISP (123-Reg) that creates the frame as part of WEB
forwarding.

You have a frame page with a single frame. The source HTML indicates
two frames, but the second one has no SRC attribute to load a second
frame. This is very bad design. If your ISP causes this, you must
discuss this with your ISP.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

On further investigation, I used another ISP's web forwarding, which
only had one frame present and the same thing happened. Could it be
that the linked page is the problem, as it is creating the two entries
in the Back Button History.

Different web address www.mclportal.com

Thanks

Richard