Follow-up to "Update help and Advice"

[Hugh Newbury]

Hi:

I have been working at my website:

www.evershot.demon.co.uk

following all the kind advice you gave me. It's seems to be working
better now, but I have one intractable problem in the temperature table
for 2004:

www.evershot.demon.co.uk/everframes/temp2004.htm

At the start of the July-Dec part there is an intrusive:

idth="40" align="Center">

I cannot see this end of tag in the right place so as to eliminate it.
I've tried various editors without success. Can anyone see it and tell
me how to get rid of it, please.

Hugh

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Hugh Newbury

Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset

[André Gillibert]

Hugh Newbury wrote:
<snip>

www.evershot.demon.co.uk/everframes/temp2004.htm

At the start of the July-Dec part there is an intrusive:

idth="40" align="Center">

I cannot see this end of tag in the right place so as to eliminate it.

At line 1442 and 1443, there's:

<ml>
idth="40" align="center"></td>

Delete these two lines.

Can anyone see it and tell
me how to get rid of it, please.

You should use the W3C validator:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...s/temp2004.htm
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[Hugh Newbury]

André Gillibert wrote:

>
At line 1442 and 1443, there's:

> <ml>
idth="40" align="center"></td>

Delete these two lines.

>Can anyone see it and tell
me how to get rid of it, please.

As I said, I can't see these 2 lines in the source code, so I can't
eliminate them! Yet the tag end appears in html. I have tried several
text editors and html editors and they can't see this line either.
Neither can they see the <mltag found by the W3C validator.

You should use the W3C validator:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...s/temp2004.htm

So I repeat, how can I get rid of the tag end?

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Thanks, I may have to!

Hugh

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Hugh Newbury

Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Hugh Newbury wrote:

André Gillibert wrote:

>At line 1442 and 1443, there's:

>> <ml>
idth="40" align="center"></td>

Delete these two lines.

>>Can anyone see it and tell
me how to get rid of it, please.

As I said, I can't see these 2 lines in the source code, so I can't
eliminate them! Yet the tag end appears in html. I have tried several
text editors and html editors and they can't see this line either.

Copy and paste your source into a good editor. Jump to the bottom, then
scroll up 47 lines. There it is. Or, just view it in whatever you used
to create the file in the first place. 47 lines from end.

Neither can they see the <mltag found by the W3C validator.

What are these .. incompetent .. editors?

What have you changed since we last saw the site? It's still frames, old
markup, too-bright colors ... and I'm still visitor number 888,888 <g>

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-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

[André Gillibert]

Hugh Newbury wrote:

As I said, I can't see these 2 lines in the source code, so I can't
eliminate them!

I can see them perfectly in metapad.
These are lines 1442 and 1443.
They're visible in notepad too (simply search for <ml>).

Yet the tag end appears in html. I have tried several
text editors and html editors and they can't see this line either.

Any plain text editor should show it, unless your page is generated by a
server side process and you're looking in the source script. Are you?

So I repeat, how can I get rid of the tag end?

Use a decent text editor.

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[Hugh Newbury]

André Gillibert wrote:

They're visible in notepad too (simply search for <ml>).

Never thought of searching. Turns out I was looking in the wrong place,
around where the lines appeared in html. How mysterious that in source
code they were way after that point. Don't understand, but never mind:
it's nearly drink time anyway. Thanks to all for your help.

Tomorrow I'll go and soften the colours. I'm fed up with being shouted
at by you chaps. (I actually had a cataract op last week and can now see
what you mean!)

Hugh
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Hugh Newbury

Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset

[Michael Stemper]

In article <5m************@mid.individual.net>, Hugh Newbury writes:

>www.evershot.demon.co.uk

following all the kind advice you gave me. It's seems to be working
better now, but I have one intractable problem in the temperature table
for 2004:

www.evershot.demon.co.uk/everframes/temp2004.htm

At the start of the July-Dec part there is an intrusive:

idth="40" align="Center">

Is there any particular reason to individually style every TD element
in the page? Are you aware that

TD {text-align: center;
width: 40px;}

could replace hundreds of occurrences of:

width="40" align="center"

as well as:

align="center" width="40"

Would cutting the size (and download time) of your page in half, along
with eliminating weirdness caused by a mis-typed local styling be worth
its while to you?

You could also do:

TH {text-align: center;
width: 120px;}

and strip it down even further.
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Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made from meat?

[William Gill]

Michael Stemper wrote:

>
Is there any particular reason to individually style every TD element
in the page?

Not sure, but on http://www.evershot.demon.co.uk

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//SoftQuad//DTD HoTMetaL PRO
5.0::19980626::extensions to HTML 4.0//EN" "hmpro5.dtd">

Chances are good Hugh is reworking an old HotMetal generated page.

[Hugh Newbury]

William Gill wrote:

[snippity snip]

Chances are good Hugh is reworking an old HotMetal generated page.

You're right. It all dates from 15-18 years ago. I've simplified some of
the pages over the years to make them easier to update by hand. So the
layout has often changed, but the actual coding has not.

And many thanks to Michael Stemper and Jonathan Little for their ideas
to improve and simplify the coding. I'll leave the pages as they are
till the end of the year, and that will give me lots of time to fiddle
about with brand new templates for 2008.

You have given me much to think about and lots of reading to do. Thank
you all for your patience and good humour.

Hugh

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Hugh Newbury

Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset