FireFox/Inet explorer css issues

[golfchick]

Well im at the end of my teather, ive been searching for an answer to no avail. Ive used suggested html and css checkers both say my code is perfect and yet there seems to be a distinct difference between both firefox and internet explorer. The problem is with the links on the left hand side, inet explorer spaces them when it shouldnt and doesnt position them where ive said too in Dreamweaver and firefox hasnt positioned them right either but its spaced it how it appears in firefox. It could be a very obvious issue but ive only been learning css since Saturday so you'll have to forgive my naivety. Ive tried changing things, removing elements of code to find it but no joy. I would just ignore it but theres such a division atm between people using inet explorer and firefox i need it spot on the same in both. Thanks for any help you can give me

[HTML]http://www.supadubs.com[/HTML]

[kestrel]

IE and Firefox both display and place items that a absolute postitioned.
its just the browser, thats why validations came up clean.
try not to use Abs_Pos because it all depends of the browser and screen res/size
so it will appear different everytime

this was the problem i had with my first site, so i changed everything to tables to contain the objects and text

try that out


split up your image, and create a table to put them all in, its easier to manage and place things where you want them.

[drhowarddrfine]

Google for "Tables for Layout is Stupid".

The reason both are different is because there isn't a standard for some things like margins and padding on some elements; so, each browser does their own and it can put things off a bit. The best thing to do is just set everything to zero and set each element as you see fit.

The easiest way to do this is, in your css, add *{margin:0;padding:0}, then adjust each element as necessary. Even then, sometimes getting it 'spot on' may not be worth the effort. Remember, most people don't look at your site in one browser and immediately switch to another. So most people will never notice a few px difference.

[golfchick]

okay ive added some margins and although inet explorer is now perfect in comparison to dreamweaver, firefox has gone even worse. A pixels is nothing to push my nose up at but if you view the index page again www.supadubs.com/index.htm you can see just how big of a difference there is between firefox and inet explorer!!

[golfchick]

well it took me since yesterday at about 4pm to reach a happy solution which luckily I just have. Why on earth things cant go back to the way they used to be when the majority of people used Inet explorer, even if it is rubbish, I dont know I think its just to make life harder for us!! thanks for the help anyway!

[drhowarddrfine]

Why on earth things cant go back to the way they used to be when the majority of people used Inet explorer, even if it is rubbish

Because it's rubbish, that's why everyone is switching to any other browser. Why would you want to go back to a broken down house just because you're familiar with it? Microsoft caused this problem and now we have to deal with it. The ideal thing IS for everyone to switch to any other browser, then problems such as this would go away.

Two things, most people do use IE because it's automatically installed on Windows, although IE usage is slowly dwindling down.

Also, to show how Microsoft causes their own problems, some pages will look the same in IE7 and Firefox but not the same as IE6 which won't look the same in IE5. This is why most of us code to modern browsers like Firefox or Opera. As Microsoft weakly attempts to bring their browser into compliance, pages should start to perform correctly in that browser if they work in the more modern browsers.

[AricC]

IE still has 80% + usage out there. Try Opera I've found it to be a good alternate browser that is small and fast.

[golfchick]

im pretty sure i didnt actually say i wanted to go back to inet explorer, if you read properly and dont skim read i said i wanted to go back to a time when the majority of people used one browser! whichever browser doesnt bother me! we should simply re-educate people who dont know that inet explorer is poo and tell people that use firefox to stop being so stuck up about the fact they know about how much better it is.

thanks for everybodies help anyways

[AricC]

Site looks fine to me in IE6...