On 13 Apr 2006 02:15:11 -0700 VK <sc**********@yahoo.com> wrote:
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ph**************@ipal.net wrote:
|> On 12 Apr 2006 13:44:03 -0700 VK <sc**********@yahoo.com> wrote:
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ph**************@ipal.net wrote:
|> |> Pass the octet stream received from the HTTP server to the code
|> |> that is an implementation for it, and get back a pixel array that can be
|> |> given to the GUI subsystem to display on the current page. This can be
|> |> with GIF, JPEG, PNG, etc ... so why not SVG.
|> |
|> | Because SVG has nothing to do with the above described mechanics.
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|> On what basis do you say this?
|> I know for certain that SVG can be viewed as an image.
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| Publisher and Writer:
|
| W: I brought you my new book!
| P: About what is it?
| W: She loves him but...
| P: I'm very short in time today, so very briefly please.
| W: It is a very sad story about love.
| P: I cannot take it - Shakespeare already wrote this.
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| Phil and Web Standards:
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| W: We've got all new technologie to extend graphics context.
| P: Is it still image?
| W: Not at all, it is...
| P: Briefly - can it be used as a still image?
| W: Well, yes, but...
| P: So it is new still image format. Add it to <img> and do not bother
| me.
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| By your lexicon in this thread there are few obvious conclusion to
| make:
| 1) As you continuously referring to <object> and <embed>, you never had
| a deal with real SVG xml+svg standard. You only sew some primitive
| static samples with proprietary (besides being hugely ancient) Adobe
| SVG viewer.
Are you presuming I'm using that?
I guess it doesn't matter much. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.1 (and will
be switching to 1.5.0.2 soon.
| 2) By your continuous references to some misterious "octet stream" it
| is obvious that even in these samples you did not bother to check the
| source file nor its MIME. You just wrongly presumed that it is some
| precompiled data a la .swf
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| And with this more than narrow knowledge packadge you dared to deploy a
| long discussion about Semantics and Standards ?!
You don't know what an octet stream is?
I never presumed it is precompiled.
| P.S. I do not count to improve your mind, but I thought necessary to
| add this info here. SVG discussions are still not too numerous in
| newsgroups. In case if someone will come to this thread by "SVG"
| search, I don't want them to leave with a completely twisted
| dellusioned idea of that SVG is.
SVG can be used in many ways. One of them is by supplying the octet
stream to a "black box" which is an implementation of a SVG translator
and the output can be a raw set of image pixels. This by no means says
that this is how it must be done. I'm saying it _can_ be done that way.
What I would like to see you agree to is that the standards that define
the format/syntax/semantics of SVG, as well as the standards that make
use of it (e.g. HTML, etc), should not impose any narrowing ideas on
how it can be used without a specific cause and explanation about how
such a use would cause problems. In other words, you can use it your
want and I can use it might way.
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