Why does the menu items take so much space?

[Ward Bekker]

Hi,

Can somebody tell me why the menu on the url below needs so much space
between menu items? (between the home, browses, forms, pages).

Maybe a margin / padding problem, but I cannot seem to find it.

The URL: http://www.genwise.com/temp/ordersbrowse.aspx.htm

Thank you!

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[Stan Brown]

Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:36:01 +0100 from Ward Bekker
<wa**@NospaaMequanimity.nl>:

Can somebody tell me why the menu on the url below needs so much space
between menu items? (between the home, browses, forms, pages).

Maybe a margin / padding problem, but I cannot seem to find it.

The URL: http://www.genwise.com/temp/ordersbrowse.aspx.htm

I started looking at it, and gave up because it's too complicated.
You've got multiple classes, the entire Web page is nested inside a
<form>, tables are used for layout, there's Javascript, and god knows
what all. Oh yes, a validator finds 25 errors

Fix your broken HTML; that might even fix our problem. If not, start
pulling things out until you have either a small case that duplicates
the behavior or (more likely) one increment of trimming down makes
the problem go away.

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[Tony]

Stan Brown wrote:

I started looking at it, and gave up because it's too complicated.
You've got multiple classes, the entire Web page is nested inside a
<form>
Unfortunately, I don't think much can be done about that (the entire
page being inside a <form>), because that is the wat .NET renders the page.
tables are used for layout, there's Javascript,

..NET also puts in a lot of messy javascript, too.

Doesn't mean nothing should be done about the problems - but my
experience in working with .NET generated pages is that they are quite
messy.

[Jim Moe]

Ward Bekker wrote:

Can somebody tell me why the menu on the url below needs so much space
between menu items? (between the home, browses, forms, pages).

..table td { padding: 10px; }

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[Stan Brown]

Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:15:19 -0800 from Tony <tony23
@dslextreme.WHATISTHIS.com>:

Unfortunately, I don't think much can be done about that (the entire
page being inside a <form>), because that is the wat .NET renders the page.

Seems to me the solution is obvious -- if the tool produces a bad
result, either it's the wrong tool or the user is using is wrong.

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[Tony]

Stan Brown wrote:

Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:15:19 -0800 from Tony <tony23
@dslextreme.WHATISTHIS.com>:

Unfortunately, I don't think much can be done about that (the entire
page being inside a <form>), because that is the wat .NET renders the page.

Seems to me the solution is obvious -- if the tool produces a bad
result, either it's the wrong tool or the user is using is wrong.

Well, these things happen when .NET is used correctly, so I'll let you
make your own conclusions...

[Ward Bekker]

Hi Stan,

Yes, some of the mess, like the menu using tables is because of dot net.
I would like to clean it up a much as possible, but I need to start
somewhere. Because other people on other forums also suggested to first
loose the tables, I'm going to see if there is a way to fix this for the
standard menu control for .Net.

Regards,

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