What's the default media?

[dubing]

Hello everyone,

If media is not explicitly specified in link as shown below, what's the
default media supposed to be, screen or all? I thought it should be
'all'.

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="layout.css" />

Thanks,

Bing

[Johannes Koch]

du****@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone,

If media is not explicitly specified in link as shown below, what's the
default media supposed to be, screen or all? I thought it should be
'all'.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#adef-media>:

The default value for this attribute is "screen".
--
Johannes Koch
In te domine speravi; non confundar in aeternum.
(Te Deum, 4th cent.)

[Spartanicus]

Johannes Koch <ko**@w3development.de> wrote:

If media is not explicitly specified in link as shown below, what's the
default media supposed to be, screen or all? I thought it should be
'all'.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#adef-media>:

The default value for this attribute is "screen".

Correct, but last time I checked no browser complied with this spec
requirement, those I tested assumed "all". When asked Opera seemed to be
aware of it's non spec compliant behaviour in this regard, but were
unwilling to change it.

--
Spartanicus

[dubing]

Spartanicus wrote:

Johannes Koch <ko**@w3development.de> wrote:

If media is not explicitly specified in link as shown below, what's the
default media supposed to be, screen or all? I thought it should be
'all'.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#adef-media>:

The default value for this attribute is "screen".

Correct, but last time I checked no browser complied with this spec
requirement, those I tested assumed "all". When asked Opera seemed to be
aware of it's non spec compliant behaviour in this regard, but were
unwilling to change it.

Thanks for the pointer. That's what I saw too. I'm wondering why no
browser comlies with the spec?

Bing

[dubing]

du****@gmail.com wrote:

Spartanicus wrote:

Johannes Koch <ko**@w3development.de> wrote:

> If media is not explicitly specified in link as shown below, what's the
> default media supposed to be, screen or all? I thought it should be
> 'all'.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#adef-media>:

The default value for this attribute is "screen".

Correct, but last time I checked no browser complied with this spec
requirement, those I tested assumed "all". When asked Opera seemed to be
aware of it's non spec compliant behaviour in this regard, but were
unwilling to change it.

Thanks for the pointer. That's what I saw too. I'm wondering why no
browser comlies with the spec?

Bing

I just noticed that the spec says the default value for media is
'screen', but look at
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#h-14.4, it says ' The
"techreport" stylesheet applies to all media.' when it explains the
example given below:

===
<LINK rel="stylesheet" media="aural" href="corporate-aural.css"
type="text/css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" media="screen" href="corporate-screen.css"
type="text/css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" media="print" href="corporate-print.css"
type="text/css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" href="techreport.css" type="text/css">
<STYLE media="screen, print" type="text/css">
p.special { color: rgb(230, 100, 180) }
</STYLE>
===

So the spec does not comply with itself?

Bing

[Spartanicus]

du****@gmail.com wrote:

>> If media is not explicitly specified in link as shown below, what's the
>> default media supposed to be, screen or all? I thought it should be
>> 'all'.
>
><http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#adef-media>:
>
>The default value for this attribute is "screen".

Correct, but last time I checked no browser complied with this spec
requirement, those I tested assumed "all". When asked Opera seemed to be
aware of it's non spec compliant behaviour in this regard, but were
unwilling to change it.

Thanks for the pointer. That's what I saw too. I'm wondering why no
browser comlies with the spec?

Defaulting to "screen" is a silly spec requirement, implementing it in
browsers that need to deal with the world wild web would result in quite
a few pages being rendered unstyled.

--
Spartanicus

[Spartanicus]

du****@gmail.com wrote:

I just noticed that the spec says the default value for media is
'screen', but look at
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#h-14.4, it says ' The
"techreport" stylesheet applies to all media.' when it explains the
example given below:

===
<LINK rel="stylesheet" media="aural" href="corporate-aural.css"
type="text/css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" media="screen" href="corporate-screen.css"
type="text/css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" media="print" href="corporate-print.css"
type="text/css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" href="techreport.css" type="text/css">
<STYLE media="screen, print" type="text/css">
p.special { color: rgb(230, 100, 180) }
</STYLE>
===

So the spec does not comply with itself?

Looks like it.

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Spartanicus