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Be gentle - site critique please

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Joe
I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

It's only four pages, and it should pretty much work
If someone can help me out with the 'form' on the contact page (which I
copied) I'd be grateful. PLEASE DON'T USE THE FORM TO SEND ANYTHING TO
ME. At the moment, the addy it points to is disabled!!
Nov 24 '05 #1
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Joe wrote:

I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

It's only four pages, and it should pretty much work
If someone can help me out with the 'form' on the contact page (which I
copied) I'd be grateful. PLEASE DON'T USE THE FORM TO SEND ANYTHING TO
ME. At the moment, the addy it points to is disabled!!


Home page: No HTML 4.01 errors.
Artist's page: ditto.
Image gallery: ditto.
Contact page: 55 HTML 4.01 errors.

CSS: One error.

Simple to navigate. Straight-forward buttons for links, created
via CSS.

Background image is somewhat annoying, especially where text
appears over it. Perhaps it could be made even more pale.

Photo of artist is missing from biography. Also, if you give dates
on which the artist moved from one town to another, how about his
date of birth?

Almost half of those who access the Internet from home still use
dial-up modems. The background image should have less resolution
so that it loads more quickly. Also, the image gallery should use
low-resolution thumbnails, with links to larger images (one per
page).

--

David E. Ross
<URL:http://www.rossde.com/>

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.
Nov 24 '05 #2

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Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:07:04 GMT from Joe <jo********@yahoo.com.au>:
I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

It's only four pages, and it should pretty much work
If someone can help me out with the 'form' on the contact page (which I
copied) I'd be grateful. PLEASE DON'T USE THE FORM TO SEND ANYTHING TO
ME. At the moment, the addy it points to is disabled!!


The "Goanna Hill" button on that page doesn't do anything. Eventually
I figured out that it's because that page is Goanna Hill. Consider
improving the visual cue -- make that button paler, for instance.

On the Everingham page, I see "photo of the artist" (words) instead
of the photo.

I liked the image gallery, but by the time I got to the middle of it
I wasn't clear whether a given title applied to the photo above or
the photo below.

I don't understand what help you're asking for the contact form,
since you tell us not to use it.

(Site critiques are more often requested in c.i.w.a.site-design, by
the way.)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you
Nov 24 '05 #3

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Joe
In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
th************@fastmail.fm says...
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:07:04 GMT from Joe <jo********@yahoo.com.au>:

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/


The "Goanna Hill" button on that page doesn't do anything.
It's a few shades darker on my monitor - obviously not enough to make a
difference on yours. Thanks. I'll look into it.
On the Everingham page, I see "photo of the artist" (words) instead
of the photo.
bugger. and I was soooo careful!

I wasn't clear whether a given title applied to the photo above or
the photo below.
Excellent comment. Ta I don't understand what help you're asking for the contact form,
since you tell us not to use it.

(Site critiques are more often requested in c.i.w.a.site-design, by
the way.)

Thanks Stan.
So apart from not uploading one pic
I guess I hoped someone would talk me through the (code of) the form. I
have a mental block about forms and usually (a) avoid using them, or (b)
copy one from somewhere else.

c.i.w.a.site-design is not carried by my isp - I'll ask them about it
Nov 24 '05 #4

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:21:39 GMT, Joe wrote:

So apart from not uploading one pic
I guess I hoped someone would talk me through the (code of) the form. I
have a mental block about forms and usually (a) avoid using them, or (b)
copy one from somewhere else.


If it is the html-code of the form you are in the right group, but if it is
server-code to handle the form input look up an appropriate php, asp, etc.
group for your answer.

--
Now Playing:
Anima Sound System - Elég Volt Feat. Mc Spex & Mc A
Nov 24 '05 #5

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Joe
In article <43***************@nowhere.not>, no****@nowhere.not says...
Joe wrote:

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/
Home page: No HTML 4.01 errors.
Artist's page: ditto.
Image gallery: ditto.
Contact page: 55 HTML 4.01 errors.
Yeah. I can't do forms to save my life, so I copied the code for it. CSS: One error.
There is? What is it - how do I fix it Simple to navigate. Straight-forward buttons for links, created
via CSS.
blush Background image is somewhat annoying, especially where text
appears over it. Perhaps it could be made even more pale.
I'll play with it. Thanks Photo of artist is missing from biography.
poo

Also, if you give dates on which the artist moved from one town to another, how about his
date of birth?
good idea. All the info I have was provided; no excuse for me not asking
though. Thanks Almost half of those who access the Internet from home still use
dial-up modems. The background image should have less resolution
so that it loads more quickly. Also, the image gallery should use
low-resolution thumbnails, with links to larger images (one per
page).
I'm one of them - as is the guy the site will be about. He like the
gallery as it is, and I've got to admit, I was just as happy not to do
another thumbnail grid page.

Nov 24 '05 #6

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Joe wrote in message news:MP************************@news.aardvark.net. au...
I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

It's only four pages, and it should pretty much work
If someone can help me out with the 'form' on the contact page (which I
copied) I'd be grateful. PLEASE DON'T USE THE FORM TO SEND ANYTHING TO
ME. At the moment, the addy it points to is disabled!!


... and that is good.

re. form:
http://securephp.damonkohler.com/ind...mail_Injection

whatever script you use, make sure it cannot be abused by a spammer.

Nov 24 '05 #7

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Joe wrote [in part]:

In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
th************@fastmail.fm says...[also in part]

The "Goanna Hill" button on that page doesn't do anything.


It's a few shades darker on my monitor - obviously not enough to make a
difference on yours. Thanks. I'll look into it.


Actually, the convention is to make it pale, not dark. The term is
"grayed out".

--

David E. Ross
<URL:http://www.rossde.com/>

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.
Nov 24 '05 #8

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Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:21:39 GMT from Joe <jo********@yahoo.com.au>:
In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
th************@fastmail.fm says...
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:07:04 GMT from Joe <jo********@yahoo.com.au>:
http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/


The "Goanna Hill" button on that page doesn't do anything.


It's a few shades darker on my monitor - obviously not enough to make a
difference on yours. Thanks. I'll look into it.


It was a few shades darker on my monitor too. The point is that "a
few shades darker" makes it seem more important. You don't want to
vary the buttons on a scale of more/less important, but on whether
they're active or not. For good or ill, "inactive" equates to "greyed
out" in the GUI that an awful lot of people are used to.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you
Nov 24 '05 #9

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Stan Brown wrote:
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?
http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/


I wondered if someone would highlight the below points, but as no one
has, a few of comments:
The buttons are not the same level when viewed with Mozilla.
The image gallary border is missing when viewed with Mozilla.
The border for the artist and the contact form overlap the background
image, whereas the border for the image gallery frames the background
image.
The colour scheme for the inactive button, makes it look like a raised
button (i.e. makes it look like you should be able to press it), by
contrast the active buttons don't visually look like you can press
them. Reversing the colour scheme for A.Smenu and A.Smenu:active would
perhaps help.

For reference:
View with Mozilla/Windows: http://www.noswad.me.uk/GonnaMoz.GIF
View with IE/Windows: http://www.noswad.me.uk/GonnaIE.GIF

Hope that's useful,

Regards,

AD7six

Nov 25 '05 #10

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Joe
In article <MP************************@news.aardvark.net.au >,
jo********@yahoo.com.au says...
I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?


Thanks to everyone for the constructive comments. I'll take them all to
heart.
Nov 26 '05 #11

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Joe
In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
th************@fastmail.fm says...
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:21:39 GMT from Joe <jo********@yahoo.com.au>:
In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
th************@fastmail.fm says...
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:07:04 GMT from Joe <jo********@yahoo.com.au>:
> http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

The "Goanna Hill" button on that page doesn't do anything.


It's a few shades darker on my monitor - obviously not enough to make a
difference on yours. Thanks. I'll look into it.


It was a few shades darker on my monitor too. The point is that "a
few shades darker" makes it seem more important. You don't want to
vary the buttons on a scale of more/less important, but on whether
they're active or not. For good or ill, "inactive" equates to "greyed
out" in the GUI that an awful lot of people are used to.

Aha! I understand now. David Ross suggested that I make it paler, so I
will do that. I was trying to suggest "you are here" with the different
coloured button - what different colour I choose is immaterial. If the
convention is paler = inactive, then a pale button can actually impart
TWO items of information.
Nov 26 '05 #12

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Joe
In article <43***************@nowhere.not>, no****@nowhere.not says...
Joe wrote [in part]:

In article <MP************************@news.individual.net> ,
th************@fastmail.fm says...[also in part]

The "Goanna Hill" button on that page doesn't do anything.


It's a few shades darker on my monitor - obviously not enough to make a
difference on yours. Thanks. I'll look into it.


Actually, the convention is to make it pale, not dark. The term is
"grayed out".

Thanks for that. It never occurred to me that it would cause anyone a
moments distress. - Which is EXACTLY why I asked for y'all to loom at it
for me.
I'll make it paler.
Nov 26 '05 #13

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Joe
In article <11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
an**********@gmail.com says...

Stan Brown wrote:
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?
http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

I wondered if someone would highlight the below points, but as no one
has, a few of comments:
The buttons are not the same level when viewed with Mozilla.


I noticed that, and have no idea why it is so. Opera and IE have all the
buttons aligned. The image gallary border is missing when viewed with Mozilla. I've changed the whole gallery format now. The border for the artist and the contact form overlap the background
image, whereas the border for the image gallery frames the background
image. Coincidence. The borders actually ignore the background image. The colour scheme for the inactive button, makes it look like a raised
button (i.e. makes it look like you should be able to press it), by
contrast the active buttons don't visually look like you can press
them. Reversing the colour scheme for A.Smenu and A.Smenu:active would
perhaps help.
I have changed the buttons. For reference:
View with Mozilla/Windows: http://www.noswad.me.uk/GonnaMoz.GIF
View with IE/Windows: http://www.noswad.me.uk/GonnaIE.GIF

Hope that's useful,
It certainly is. Thank you. Regards,

AD7six


Nov 27 '05 #14

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Joe
In article <11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
an**********@gmail.com says...

Stan Brown wrote:
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?
http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

I wondered if someone would highlight the below points, but as no one
has, a few of comments:
The buttons are not the same level when viewed with Mozilla.


I noticed that, and have no idea why it is so. Opera and IE have all the
buttons aligned. The image gallary border is missing when viewed with Mozilla. I've changed the whole gallery format now. The border for the artist and the contact form overlap the background
image, whereas the border for the image gallery frames the background
image. Coincidence. The borders actually ignore the background image. The colour scheme for the inactive button, makes it look like a raised
button (i.e. makes it look like you should be able to press it), by
contrast the active buttons don't visually look like you can press
them. Reversing the colour scheme for A.Smenu and A.Smenu:active would
perhaps help.
I have changed the buttons. For reference:
View with Mozilla/Windows: http://www.noswad.me.uk/GonnaMoz.GIF
View with IE/Windows: http://www.noswad.me.uk/GonnaIE.GIF

Hope that's useful,
It certainly is. Thank you. Regards,

AD7six

Nov 27 '05 #15

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Joe
In article <MP************************@news.aardvark.net.au >,
jo********@yahoo.com.au says...
I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/

Thanks to everyone for their help.
The (almost) finished version is now up for viewing at the above addy.
Thanks again
Nov 27 '05 #16

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Joe wrote in message news:MP************************@news.aardvark.net. au...
In article <MP************************@news.aardvark.net.au >, joe says...
I'm a long-time lurker, so I know what to expect!
Can someone please look at this and make appropriate comments?

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/


Thanks to everyone for their help.
The (almost) finished version is now up for viewing at the above addy.

In FireFox the [Goanna Hill] "button" is still shifted upwards a bit
(or the other three shifted down).
I did a little test with FF and if you get rid of the padding: 0 0.2em;
in #nav li (line 152), the buttons will be aligned (at least in FF)
HTH
Nov 27 '05 #17

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Joe
In article <ud******************************@trueband.net>,
me@privacy.net says...
Joe wrote in message news:MP************************@news.aardvark.net. au...
In article <MP************************@news.aardvark.net.au >, joe says...

http://members.aardvark.net.au/grakat/temp/



In FireFox the [Goanna Hill] "button" is still shifted upwards a bit
(or the other three shifted down).
I did a little test with FF and if you get rid of the padding: 0 0.2em;
in #nav li (line 152), the buttons will be aligned (at least in FF)
HTH

You little ripper!! That fixes it, without breaking anything in IE or
Opera. If you knew how much fiddling I'd done with no success ...
Thanks heaps.
Nov 28 '05 #18

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