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At one point, someone posted a really handy four-letter mnemonic for
evaluating web sites. It was something like OSDI - something,
Structure, something, Interface.

Anyone happen to know what this was?

Thanks! -Cloy

Nov 23 '05 #1
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Writing in news:alt.http://www.webmaster,comp.infosystem...authoring.html
From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria
Cloy <cl**@tobola.com> said:
At one point, someone posted a really handy four-letter mnemonic for
evaluating web sites. It was something like OSDI - something,
Structure, something, Interface.

Anyone happen to know what this was?


KISS - keep it simple stupid

Content, Content, Content

dunno - sure it was here?
--
William Tasso

Save the drama
for your Mama.
Nov 24 '05 #2
In article <op*******************@tbdata.com>,
"William Tasso" <Sp*********@tbdata.com> wrote:
At one point, someone posted a really handy four-letter mnemonic for
evaluating web sites. It was something like OSDI - something,
Structure, something, Interface.
KISS - keep it simple stupid

Content, Content, Content


http://www.digital-web.com/articles/keep_it_simple/
One mail succinctly stated: "KISS leads to LOVE (Leave Out Virtually
Everything)".

It isn't all that helpful, but it seemed funny. For more general
information, how about CRAPP Currency, Relevance, Authority, Accuracy,
Purpose or ACT Authority Content Timeliness

--
http://www.ericlindsay.com
Nov 24 '05 #3
Eric Lindsay wrote:
In article <op*******************@tbdata.com>,
"William Tasso" <Sp*********@tbdata.com> wrote:
At one point, someone posted a really handy four-letter mnemonic for
evaluating web sites. It was something like OSDI - something,
Structure, something, Interface.

KISS - keep it simple stupid

Content, Content, Content


http://www.digital-web.com/articles/keep_it_simple/
One mail succinctly stated: "KISS leads to LOVE (Leave Out Virtually
Everything)".


May I also suggest A BUTT, a vital technique used in web site
evaluation
http://www.stevepugh.net/VTT/?p=42

Steve

Nov 24 '05 #4
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:39:00 +1000 from Eric Lindsay <NOSPAmar2005
@ericlindsay.com>:
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/keep_it_simple/
One mail succinctly stated: "KISS leads to LOVE (Leave Out Virtually
Everything)".

It isn't all that helpful, but it seemed funny.


There's a nugget of truth, though. I for one tend to write rather
long sentences, with words that sound well when read aloud but do
take extra time to get to the point.

Useful advice I read was to look critically at every sentence on a
Web page and find which words can be removed; then find which
_sentences_ can be removed. The idea, I guess, is that reading on
screen is fatiguing compared to reading print, and so it's even more
important to be brief on screen.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you
Nov 24 '05 #5
"Eric Lindsay" <NO**********@ericlindsay.com> wrote in message
news:NO********************************@freenews.i inet.net.au...
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/keep_it_simple/
One mail succinctly stated: "KISS leads to LOVE (Leave Out Virtually
Everything)".


I.E. Google's main page
Nov 24 '05 #6
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:24:11 -0800 from Tony <no****@nowhere.not>:
"Eric Lindsay" <NO**********@ericlindsay.com> wrote in message
news:NO********************************@freenews.i inet.net.au...
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/keep_it_simple/
One mail succinctly stated: "KISS leads to LOVE (Leave Out Virtually
Everything)".


I.E. Google's main page


You mean e.g., not i.e. (If you had provided an e-mail address, I'd
have mentioned that privately.)

If people are going to use e.g. and i.e., I think they have a duty to
get them right. Otherwise nobody will be able to understand anybody
else. And people who can't remember which is which can always revert
to (gasp!) English, with "for example" and "that is".
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you
Nov 25 '05 #7
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:58:17 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fm> wrote:

[...]
If people are going to use e.g. and i.e., I think they have a duty to
get them right. Otherwise nobody will be able to understand anybody
else. And people who can't remember which is which can always revert
to (gasp!) English, with "for example" and "that is".


Further explanation of Latin origin to help peoples memory...

e.g. = "exempli gratia" ~ "for example"

i.e. = "id est" ~ "that is"

--
Rex
Nov 25 '05 #8
Jan Roland Eriksson <jr****@newsguy.com> writes:
Further explanation of Latin origin to help peoples memory...

e.g. = "exempli gratia" ~ "for example"

i.e. = "id est" ~ "that is"


I always thought "egzample" and "it's exactly" were more mnemonic. But
hey, quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Nov 25 '05 #9
"Stan Brown" <th************@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MP************************@news.individual.ne t...
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:24:11 -0800 from Tony <no****@nowhere.not>:
"Eric Lindsay" <NO**********@ericlindsay.com> wrote in message
news:NO********************************@freenews.i inet.net.au...
> http://www.digital-web.com/articles/keep_it_simple/
> One mail succinctly stated: "KISS leads to LOVE (Leave Out Virtually
> Everything)".


I.E. Google's main page


You mean e.g., not i.e. (If you had provided an e-mail address, I'd
have mentioned that privately.)

If people are going to use e.g. and i.e., I think they have a duty to
get them right. Otherwise nobody will be able to understand anybody
else. And people who can't remember which is which can always revert
to (gasp!) English, with "for example" and "that is".


e.g. i.e. - np
Nov 26 '05 #10
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:23:42 -0500, Stan Brown
<th************@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:39:00 +1000 from Eric Lindsay <NOSPAmar2005 <snip>Useful advice I read was to look critically at every sentence on a
Web page and find which words can be removed; then find which
_sentences_ can be removed.

<snip>

My wife is a technical writer.

Her approach when editing documents is to look for paragraphs that can
each be turned into one short sentence. Many can be, especially when
the original document was written by engineers or government
bureaucrats.

Many other paragraphs can be deleted entirely because they don't
actually convey any information.

--
"She had the 9mm and a .38 revolver. That surprised me,
considering she said she was going to be in the Million Mom March
against gun violence and all that." - Police Sergeant C. V. Morris.
More details at: http://www.tincher.to/mmm.htm
Nov 28 '05 #11
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:43:14 -0500, Rex Tincher <ne******@tincher.to>
wrote:
My wife is a technical writer.
Me too...

Her approach when editing documents is to look for paragraphs that can
each be turned into one short sentence. Many can be, especially when
the original document was written by engineers or government
bureaucrats.

Many other paragraphs can be deleted entirely because they don't
actually convey any information.


ROTFL!

I just so know what you mean!

Matt
--
The Probert Encyclopaedia - Beyond Britannica
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
Nov 28 '05 #12
William,

Thanks for the response. It wasn't quite that specific -- it was based
on AREAS to consider, not necessarily HOW to evaluate those areas.

When teaching design or typography, I have also used KISS, along with
KILL (Keep it Large and Legible).

Anyone else?

Thnx! -c

Nov 28 '05 #13
Writing in news:alt.http://www.webmaster,comp.infosystem...authoring.html
From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria
Cloy <cl**@tobola.com> said:
William,

Thanks for the response.
np, but there's really no need for thanks. usenet posts are available for
all.
It wasn't quite that specific -- it was based
on AREAS to consider, not necessarily HOW to evaluate those areas.

When teaching design or typography, I have also used KISS, along with
KILL (Keep it Large and Legible).

Anyone else?


There have been several replies in this thread. It would appear from your
headers that you are using the groups interface at google - may I suggest
you connect to a real news server with a real news client. Both groups
posted to contain regular contributors that can help if you have specific
questions on connecting - although the subject is off-topic in both.

Note also that on usenet it is customary to quote the relevant parts of
the message you are replying to - for example I keep the view trimmed to
posts made in the last 24 hours - I had to look back through my archive to
remind myself what had been said before.

In any event, good luck.
--
William Tasso

Save the drama
for your Mama.
Nov 28 '05 #14
Found it!

The initials are ISDA, for Interface, Structure, Design and
Accessibility.

I think I'd add Content somewhere in there, but for my cases it's just
what I need. (If you use this, I'd suggest that Accessibility include
alt tags and other features to ensure that people with disabilities can
easily access your site.)

Excelsior! -Cloy

Cloy wrote:
At one point, someone posted a really handy four-letter mnemonic for
evaluating web sites. It was something like OSDI - something,
Structure, something, Interface.

Anyone happen to know what this was?

Thanks! -Cloy


Nov 29 '05 #15
Writing in news:alt.http://www.webmaster,comp.infosystem...authoring.html
From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria
Cloy <cl**@tobola.com> said:
Found it!
yee haa - a happy ending!
The initials are ISDA, for Interface, Structure, Design and
Accessibility.

I think I'd add Content somewhere in there,
right up front would be good - CISDA?
but for my cases it's just
what I need. (If you use this, I'd suggest that Accessibility include
alt tags and other features to ensure that people with disabilities can
easily access your site.)


<q>Almost every official site in Europe fails to meet standards on
accessibility, reveals a UK government study.</q>

src: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/...gy/4478702.stm

--
William Tasso

Save the drama
for your Mama.
Nov 29 '05 #16
"William Tasso" <Sp*********@tbdata.com> writes:
Writing in news:alt.http://www.webmaster,comp.infosystem...authoring.html
From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria
Cloy <cl**@tobola.com> said:
Found it!


yee haa - a happy ending!
The initials are ISDA, for Interface, Structure, Design and
Accessibility.

I think I'd add Content somewhere in there,


right up front would be good - CISDA?


Isn't that like writing an article on house painting that starts, "First
you need a house."? I thought the gee-whiz era of the web was over.
Are there still a lot of sites that are all paint and no house?
Nov 29 '05 #17
In article <nm*************@all-night-tool.mit.edu>,
Bruce Lewis <br*****@yahoo.com> wrote:
The initials are ISDA, for Interface, Structure, Design and
Accessibility.

I think I'd add Content somewhere in there,


right up front would be good - CISDA?


Isn't that like writing an article on house painting that starts, "First
you need a house."? I thought the gee-whiz era of the web was over.
Are there still a lot of sites that are all paint and no house?


I got asked about doing a web site recently, over a bottle of wine. You
can check how little progress has been made at
http://www.architectqueensland.com The ONLY content I was able to get
was a business card (which was obsolete and didn't list their location
or staff). That is still the only real text content I have available.
So eventually I imagine I'll have to put some sort of paint job up there
while I work on extracting the content I have been promised (they do
have good stuff to present).

I get the distinct feeling that a lot of the people only just now
thinking that maybe they should have a web site are thinking smoke and
mirrors rather than substance.

--
http://www.ericlindsay.com
Nov 30 '05 #18

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