A wee debate, help needed!

[biffta]

I know this is not really relavant but you could argue there is quite a
big relationship between Firefox and CSS!

I recently wrote an article on my blog supporting firefox and have
recieved a considerable amount of worthless arguments against my ideas.
If anyone fancies coming over a lending a hand I would greatly
appreciate it!!!

http://www.hopkins81.com/archives/2005/11/17/firefox/

[David Dorward]

bi****@hotmail.com wrote:

I know this is not really relavant but you could argue there is quite a
big relationship between Firefox and CSS!
"It parses it", that's about it.
I recently wrote an article on my blog supporting firefox and have
recieved a considerable amount of worthless arguments against my ideas.
If anyone fancies coming over a lending a hand I would greatly
appreciate it!!!

http://www.hopkins81.com/archives/2005/11/17/firefox/

Your article says:

We see you're using Internet Explorer. Try Firefox, you'll like it
better.

.... actually, I'm using Lynx.

[Chris Hughes]

In message <11**********************@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
David Dorward <do*****@gmail.com> writes

bi****@hotmail.com wrote:

I know this is not really relavant but you could argue there is quite a
big relationship between Firefox and CSS!

"It parses it", that's about it.

I recently wrote an article on my blog supporting firefox and have
recieved a considerable amount of worthless arguments against my ideas.
If anyone fancies coming over a lending a hand I would greatly
appreciate it!!!

http://www.hopkins81.com/archives/2005/11/17/firefox/

Your article says:

We see you're using Internet Explorer. Try Firefox, you'll like it
better.

... actually, I'm using Lynx.

I'd rather fight than switch from Opera...!
--
Chris Hughes
http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, David Dorward wrote:

http://www.hopkins81.com/archives/2005/11/17/firefox/

Your article says:

We see you're using Internet Explorer. Try Firefox, you'll like it
better.

... actually, I'm using Lynx.

But the article claims:

|| It is only visible to people who use IE.

Some mistake, Shirley...

I have the impression that the page relies on both Javascript and CSS
for success, but omits to use the simple and reliable scheme which
would *really* work, namely MSIE "conditional comments".

And, as so often: it claims to validate, and provides a link which
demonstrates that it doesn't.

I don't think serious web designers have much to fear.

There's a valuable message hidden underneath this dross, though.

[biffta]

The code does rely on javascript yes but it was not me who wrote it. It
is written by Google
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...436226&tid=217

As you will see that everything else on my site validates apart from
this.

[biffta]

>>I don't think serious web designers have much to fear.

I don't follow, who do you think I am trying to scare?

[Harlan Messinger]

bi****@hotmail.com wrote:

I know this is not really relavant but you could argue there is quite a
big relationship between Firefox and CSS!

And yet, wouldn't it have made more sense anyway to post this to a
newsgroup about browsers?

[biffta]

Ok! So I rewrote the script using IE conditional comments and guess
what it still shows up in Lynx, what have I done wrong?

[Steve Pugh]

bi****@hotmail.com wrote:
[re: http://www.hopkins81.com/archives/2005/11/17/firefox/]

Ok! So I rewrote the script using IE conditional comments and guess
what it still shows up in Lynx, what have I done wrong?

You have comments inside your conditional comments. Don't do that.

A Downlevel-hidden conditional comments (perversely named as it's
normally used to hide IE-only code from better browsers) is basically a
standard HTML comment and you can't nest HTML comments.

Steve

[biffta]

Thanks Steve, got rid of the nested comments but it still shows up in
Lynx.

[Steve Pugh]

bi****@hotmail.com wrote:

Thanks Steve, got rid of the nested comments but it still shows up in
Lynx.

and Opera.

You've still got one nested comment. Look closely. It's a comment that
hasn't been needed since Netscape 1 fell out of widespread use.

And please quote the relevant parts of the message you're replying to,
it provides context for other users who may not see the whole thread at
once.

Steve

[biffta]

Thanks Steve, I have now removed all JS/HTML comments from my IE
conditional comment and it no longer appears in any browser that it
shouldnt. The script is now also XHTML compliant.

Thanks for all your help and pointers guys! Although, I still dont get
what Alan J. Flavell meant when he said "I don't think serious web
designers have much to fear."?