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Can anybody explain what's going on here?

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Hi,

I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured I'd
try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.

I'm having a problem with fieldsets in IE moving around on me as I hover
from one table to another. The problem only appears in IE (I'm using v6).
If I hover over the tables row, the bottom fieldset moves up and down as I
move from on table to other.

If I remove the className assignment, the issue does not occur, but I need
to do something similar on my page. Can somebody please tell me what's
going on here? The essence of the sample code is pretty close to what I'm
doing in my real application.

Any help appreciated,
Andrew

<html>
<body>
<script type="text/javascript">
function change(elem) { elem.className = '' }
</script>
<fieldset style="margin-bottom:10px">
<table width="100%">
<tr onmouseover="change(this)"><td>test</td></tr>
</table>
</fieldset>

<fieldset>
<table width="100%">
<tr onmouseover="change(this)"><td>test</td></tr>
</table>
</fieldset>
</body>
</html>
Jul 24 '05 #1
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In our last episode, <44aBe.107602$HI.47122@edtnps84>, the
lovely and talented andrew broadcast on
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
Hi, I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured I'd
try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.


What's going on here is that this is an HTML group. Your
question pertains to some scripting language or another, not
HTML. Try the group appropriate to your scripting language.
--
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I don't see posts from or threads started from googlegroups.
War on Terrorism: The Difference Between Us and Them
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Jul 24 '05 #2

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Well, you're helpful. Btw, the scripting language used is called
javascript; you may have heard of it. :)

Have a good day.
"Lars Eighner" <ei*****@io.com> wrote in message
news:sl********************@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <44aBe.107602$HI.47122@edtnps84>, the
lovely and talented andrew broadcast on
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
Hi,

I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured
I'd
try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.


What's going on here is that this is an HTML group. Your
question pertains to some scripting language or another, not
HTML. Try the group appropriate to your scripting language.
--
Lars Eighner ei*****@io.com
http://www.larseighner.com/
I don't see posts from or threads started from googlegroups.
War on Terrorism: The Difference Between Us and Them
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and
convert them to Christianity." -- Ann Coulter

Jul 24 '05 #3

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Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "andrew" <no****@noname.com> writing
in news:0WdBe.107671$HI.72072@edtnps84:
"Lars Eighner" <ei*****@io.com> wrote in message
news:sl********************@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <44aBe.107602$HI.47122@edtnps84>, the
lovely and talented andrew broadcast on
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
Hi,

I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured
I'd
try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.


What's going on here is that this is an HTML group. Your
question pertains to some scripting language or another, not
HTML. Try the group appropriate to your scripting language.

Well, you're helpful. Btw, the scripting language used is called
javascript; you may have heard of it. :)

Have a good day.


Actually, Lars _is_ being helpful. This is not an HTML issue, it is a
javascript and CSS issue. Someone in a javascript and/or CSS group would
probably be better suited to help you.
--
Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share
Jul 24 '05 #4

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Well, it only affects the fieldset tag as far as I can tell, which is HTML.
So I wasn't sure if there was a known issue with this tag in IE in certain
conditions.

I realize Lars was *trying* to be helpful, but his "tone" had something to
be desired. :)

I received an answer in another ng and it turns out it is a bug in IE, but
not sure if it's a CSS bug, a Javascript bug, or a HTML bug. There's a lot
of overlap these days in the web world. Somebody in javascript group could
have told me to go to a CSS group, etc. and the problem could be one or more
of the used technologies.

Andrew

"Adrienne" <ar********@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Xn****************************@207.115.63.158 ...
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "andrew" <no****@noname.com>
writing
in news:0WdBe.107671$HI.72072@edtnps84:
"Lars Eighner" <ei*****@io.com> wrote in message
news:sl********************@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <44aBe.107602$HI.47122@edtnps84>, the
lovely and talented andrew broadcast on
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

Hi,

I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured
I'd
try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.

What's going on here is that this is an HTML group. Your
question pertains to some scripting language or another, not
HTML. Try the group appropriate to your scripting language.

Well, you're helpful. Btw, the scripting language used is called
javascript; you may have heard of it. :)

Have a good day.


Actually, Lars _is_ being helpful. This is not an HTML issue, it is a
javascript and CSS issue. Someone in a javascript and/or CSS group would
probably be better suited to help you.
--
Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share

Jul 24 '05 #5

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andrew wrote:
Well, it only affects the fieldset tag as far as I can tell, which is
HTML. So I wasn't sure if there was a known issue with this tag in IE in
certain conditions.

I realize Lars was *trying* to be helpful, but his "tone" had something to
be desired. :)

I received an answer in another ng and it turns out it is a bug in IE, but
not sure if it's a CSS bug, a Javascript bug, or a HTML bug. There's a
lot
of overlap these days in the web world. Somebody in javascript group
could have told me to go to a CSS group, etc. and the problem could be one
or more of the used technologies.

Andrew

"Adrienne" <ar********@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Xn****************************@207.115.63.158 ...
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "andrew" <no****@noname.com>
writing
in news:0WdBe.107671$HI.72072@edtnps84:
"Lars Eighner" <ei*****@io.com> wrote in message
news:sl********************@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <44aBe.107602$HI.47122@edtnps84>, the
lovely and talented andrew broadcast on
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

> Hi,

> I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured
> I'd
> try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.

What's going on here is that this is an HTML group. Your
question pertains to some scripting language or another, not
HTML. Try the group appropriate to your scripting language.
Well, you're helpful. Btw, the scripting language used is called
javascript; you may have heard of it. :)

Have a good day.


Actually, Lars _is_ being helpful. This is not an HTML issue, it is a
javascript and CSS issue. Someone in a javascript and/or CSS group would
probably be better suited to help you.
--
Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share

The answer is in a posting yesterday:
2. To let posters know what other newsgroups exist where their questions
might get better answers. (E.g. posts about Javascript should go to
comp.lang.javascript, or maybe comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc)

Doug.
--
ICQ Number 178748389. Registered Linux User No. 277548.
Laughter is healing ... it washes away the pain.
- a sufferer from breast cancer.

Jul 24 '05 #6

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You wouldn't ask a bone surgeon to operate on your eye, would you?

Doug L.
andrew wrote:
Well, it only affects the fieldset tag as far as I can tell, which is
HTML. So I wasn't sure if there was a known issue with this tag in IE in
certain conditions.

I realize Lars was *trying* to be helpful, but his "tone" had something to
be desired. :)

I received an answer in another ng and it turns out it is a bug in IE, but
not sure if it's a CSS bug, a Javascript bug, or a HTML bug. There's a
lot
of overlap these days in the web world. Somebody in javascript group
could have told me to go to a CSS group, etc. and the problem could be one
or more of the used technologies.

Andrew

"Adrienne" <ar********@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Xn****************************@207.115.63.158 ...
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "andrew" <no****@noname.com>
writing
in news:0WdBe.107671$HI.72072@edtnps84:
"Lars Eighner" <ei*****@io.com> wrote in message
news:sl********************@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <44aBe.107602$HI.47122@edtnps84>, the
lovely and talented andrew broadcast on
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

> Hi,

> I posted this message recently, but received no response, so I figured
> I'd
> try again. I can't find anybody who can tell me what's going on here.

What's going on here is that this is an HTML group. Your
question pertains to some scripting language or another, not
HTML. Try the group appropriate to your scripting language.
Well, you're helpful. Btw, the scripting language used is called
javascript; you may have heard of it. :)

Have a good day.


Actually, Lars _is_ being helpful. This is not an HTML issue, it is a
javascript and CSS issue. Someone in a javascript and/or CSS group would
probably be better suited to help you.
--
Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share


--
ICQ Number 178748389. Registered Linux User No. 277548.
The only sure thing about luck is that it will change.
- Bret Harte.

Jul 24 '05 #7

P: n/a
In our last episode,
<7rhBe.107738$HI.11973@edtnps84>,
the lovely and talented andrew
broadcast on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
Well, it only affects the fieldset tag as far as I can tell, which is HTML.
So I wasn't sure if there was a known issue with this tag in IE in certain
conditions. I realize Lars was *trying* to be helpful, but his "tone" had something to
be desired. :)
You opened by saying this was your second posting on the issue
and you hadn't got a response to the first. That sounded a lot
like a complaint to me.

I told you it wasn't an HTML issue. What I did not add is: this
is a discussion group, not the HTML help desk. I thought that
showed remarkable restraint on my part.
I received an answer in another ng and it turns out it is a
bug in IE, but not sure if it's a CSS bug, a Javascript bug,
or a HTML bug.
There cannot be a bug in HTML because HTML is not a programming
language. If the page validates, that's all there is to it so
far as HTML goes. What you were told on the other ng appears to
be that it is a *browser* bug (which is not a big surprise with
IE). If it is a browser bug, it is not a CSS bug, a script bug,
or an HTML bug. That's pretty much what a browser bug is: when
you do everything right and the browser still gets it wrong.
There's a lot of overlap these days in the web world.
Somebody in javascript group could have told me to go to a CSS
group, etc. and the problem could be one or more of the used
technologies.


Did your HTML validate? If so, no point in asking in an HTML
group. Did you put your CSS through a lint or other checker?
Then it is probably not CSS. Does the script work on other
browsers enabled for that scripting language? Where's the
overlap? When you eliminate the other possible sources of the
problem, it's got to be the browser.

--
Lars Eighner ei*****@io.com http://www.larseighner.com/
I don't see posts from or threads started from googlegroups.
War on Terrorism: Treat Readers like Mushrooms
"If the story needs rewriting to play down the civilian casualties, DO IT."
-Memo, _Panama City_ (FL) _News Herald_
Jul 24 '05 #8

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andrew wrote:
Any help appreciated


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Jul 24 '05 #9

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"Lars Eighner" <ei*****@io.com> wrote in message
news:sl********************@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode,
<7rhBe.107738$HI.11973@edtnps84>,
the lovely and talented andrew
broadcast on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
Well, it only affects the fieldset tag as far as I can tell, which is
HTML.
So I wasn't sure if there was a known issue with this tag in IE in
certain
conditions.

I realize Lars was *trying* to be helpful, but his "tone" had something
to
be desired. :)


You opened by saying this was your second posting on the issue
and you hadn't got a response to the first. That sounded a lot
like a complaint to me.

I told you it wasn't an HTML issue. What I did not add is: this
is a discussion group, not the HTML help desk. I thought that
showed remarkable restraint on my part.
I received an answer in another ng and it turns out it is a
bug in IE, but not sure if it's a CSS bug, a Javascript bug,
or a HTML bug.


There cannot be a bug in HTML because HTML is not a programming
language. If the page validates, that's all there is to it so
far as HTML goes. What you were told on the other ng appears to
be that it is a *browser* bug (which is not a big surprise with
IE). If it is a browser bug, it is not a CSS bug, a script bug,
or an HTML bug. That's pretty much what a browser bug is: when
you do everything right and the browser still gets it wrong.
There's a lot of overlap these days in the web world.
Somebody in javascript group could have told me to go to a CSS
group, etc. and the problem could be one or more of the used
technologies.


Did your HTML validate? If so, no point in asking in an HTML
group. Did you put your CSS through a lint or other checker?
Then it is probably not CSS. Does the script work on other
browsers enabled for that scripting language? Where's the
overlap? When you eliminate the other possible sources of the
problem, it's got to be the browser.

--
Lars Eighner ei*****@io.com
http://www.larseighner.com/
I don't see posts from or threads started from googlegroups.
War on Terrorism: Treat Readers like Mushrooms
"If the story needs rewriting to play down the civilian casualties, DO
IT."
-Memo, _Panama City_ (FL) _News Herald_


Sometimes, questions are overlooked. I waited about week before trying one
more time.

Wrong choice of words.... in general terms, a bug in rendering the HTML,
CSS. And I knew it was an issue with IE, but was not sure what part of the
"code" was causing the problem.

I'm glad you cleared up the fact that this is an HTML group and not one that
will answer any questions related to possible side effects of rendering HTML
in specific browsers... even though I see other browser specific questions
in this group. Might as well replace the group with a validator and call it
a day. :)

Jul 24 '05 #10

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