encoding in utf-8

[Joe Blow]

Strange problem,

Web pages encoded in utf-8 are appearing on customers' browsers as
iso-western european. This means that characters like the British £ symbol
get messed up. No amount of tinkering with browser settings or the server
settings has helped. Any ideas what the root of the problem might be?

The page in question is www.itchy-coo.com (displays fine on my browser, and
other North American browsers, seemingly). I'd appreciate knowing if other
people see the problem that my clients see.

I use <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> in
the html head. Is there a better way of signifying the encoding without
haveing to upgrade the website to XHTML?

Other pages on the same server encoded in utf-8 display ok. Wierd eh? Or am
I missing something obvious?

Thanks
Roland Tanner

[Els]

Joe Blow wrote:

Strange problem,

Web pages encoded in utf-8 are appearing on customers' browsers as
iso-western european. This means that characters like the British £ symbol
get messed up. No amount of tinkering with browser settings or the server
settings has helped. Any ideas what the root of the problem might be?

The page in question is www.itchy-coo.com (displays fine on my browser, and
other North American browsers, seemingly). I'd appreciate knowing if other
people see the problem that my clients see.

I use <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> in
the html head. Is there a better way of signifying the encoding without
haveing to upgrade the website to XHTML?

Other pages on the same server encoded in utf-8 display ok. Wierd eh? Or am
I missing something obvious?

What code are you using for the pound signs in the original HTML?
£ or &pound; ?

View source shows a ? here. Could it be that you copy pasted code in
an editor that isn't set to use utf-8?

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[kchayka]

Els wrote:

Joe Blow wrote:

Web pages encoded in utf-8 are appearing on customers' browsers as
iso-western european. This means that characters like the British £ symbol
get messed up.
www.itchy-coo.com

View source shows a ? here.

I see ? on other characters, too, like the em/en dash used in the age
ranges on http://www.itchy-coo.com/primary.html.

Change the character encoding to iso-8859-1 and everything displays
normally.

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[Joe Blow]

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:1h*****************************@40tude.net...

Joe Blow wrote:

Strange problem,

Web pages encoded in utf-8 are appearing on customers' browsers as
iso-western european. This means that characters like the British £
symbol
get messed up. No amount of tinkering with browser settings or the server
settings has helped. Any ideas what the root of the problem might be?

The page in question is www.itchy-coo.com (displays fine on my browser,
and
other North American browsers, seemingly). I'd appreciate knowing if
other
people see the problem that my clients see.

I use <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
in
the html head. Is there a better way of signifying the encoding without
haveing to upgrade the website to XHTML?

Other pages on the same server encoded in utf-8 display ok. Wierd eh? Or
am
I missing something obvious?

What code are you using for the pound signs in the original HTML?
£ or &pound; ?

View source shows a ? here. Could it be that you copy pasted code in
an editor that isn't set to use utf-8?

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Various Artists - Everything Is O.K. With Me - Boaz
Shar`abi

That could be it. The editor (AceHTML) does have settings for different
encodings, but it is a bit glitchy. It also changes &#163 and &pound to £ in
the editor, which is an irritation.

Many thanks
Roland

[Arne]

Once upon a time *Joe Blow* wrote:

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:1h*****************************@40tude.net...

Joe Blow wrote:

Strange problem,

Web pages encoded in utf-8 are appearing on customers' browsers as
iso-western european. This means that characters like the British £
symbol
get messed up. No amount of tinkering with browser settings or the server
settings has helped. Any ideas what the root of the problem might be?

The page in question is www.itchy-coo.com (displays fine on my browser,
and
other North American browsers, seemingly). I'd appreciate knowing if
other
people see the problem that my clients see.

I use <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
in
the html head. Is there a better way of signifying the encoding without
haveing to upgrade the website to XHTML?

Other pages on the same server encoded in utf-8 display ok. Wierd eh? Or
am
I missing something obvious?

What code are you using for the pound signs in the original HTML?
£ or &pound; ?

View source shows a ? here. Could it be that you copy pasted code in
an editor that isn't set to use utf-8?

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Various Artists - Everything Is O.K. With Me - Boaz
Shar`abi

That could be it. The editor (AceHTML) does have settings for different
encodings, but it is a bit glitchy. It also changes &#163 and &pound to £ in
the editor, which is an irritation.

Very strange, I have used AceHTML 5 (free edition) for a long time and
made pages with utf-8 encoding (e.g. http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/ ).
Never have problems with it.

At least some of your encoding problems is the js files (e.g.
"wordofday.js"). Have you write (and saved) them also in AceHTML with
the utf-8 encoding?

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quote signatures, thank you.

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Mon, 16 May 2005, Joe Blow wrote:

Strange problem,
Prima facie the symptoms look like the usual problem, discussed at
http://www.w3.org/International/O-HTTP-charset
I use <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> in
the html head. Is there a better way of signifying the encoding
Yes, as the real HTTP header from the server, as the W3C note tells
you,
I missing something obvious?

You seem to have fixed it now? The server is sending charset=utf-8
in its real HTTP response headers by the time that I got to see this.

[Joe Blow]

"Alan J. Flavell" <fl*****@ph.gla.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:Pi*******************************@ppepc56.ph. gla.ac.uk...

On Mon, 16 May 2005, Joe Blow wrote:

Strange problem,

Prima facie the symptoms look like the usual problem, discussed at
http://www.w3.org/International/O-HTTP-charset

I use <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
in
the html head. Is there a better way of signifying the encoding

Yes, as the real HTTP header from the server, as the W3C note tells
you,

I missing something obvious?

You seem to have fixed it now? The server is sending charset=utf-8
in its real HTTP response headers by the time that I got to see this.

Many thanks for all your comments. I have fixed it. AceHTML was adding in a
line <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> in
an automated fashion, but saving as ISO. The weird thing was that everybody
who looked at it in my part of the world (Canada) saw the correct display
(from the server HTTP headers, which were in fact set), while everybody in
Europe saw a mess.

I've been using AceHTML for years, and have always liked it, but the latest
version is full of bugs and crashes. Can anyone suggest a better text editor
with a similar feature list, and either free of very cheap?

Alan Flavell - I used to work at Glasgow university by the way, in the
history department.

Best wishes
Roland

[Adrienne]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Joe Blow" <Jo*@Blow.com> writing
in news:_f****************@read1.cgocable.net:

I've been using AceHTML for years, and have always liked it, but the
latest version is full of bugs and crashes. Can anyone suggest a better
text editor with a similar feature list, and either free of very cheap?

I used Ace for a long time, too, and then I found HTML-Kit
<http://www.chami.com/html-kit> and I like it a lot better.

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[Big Bill]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 05:33:34 GMT, Adrienne <ar********@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Joe Blow" <Jo*@Blow.com> writing
in news:_f****************@read1.cgocable.net:

I've been using AceHTML for years, and have always liked it, but the
latest version is full of bugs and crashes. Can anyone suggest a better
text editor with a similar feature list, and either free of very cheap?

I used Ace for a long time, too, and then I found HTML-Kit
<http://www.chami.com/html-kit> and I like it a lot better.

You should be an agent for them, Adrienne. It's a bit complicate for
the newbies, though.

BB
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[Adrienne]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Big Bill <kr***@cityscape.co.uk>
writing in news:pt********************************@4ax.com:

On Tue, 17 May 2005 05:33:34 GMT, Adrienne <ar********@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Joe Blow" <Jo*@Blow.com> writing
in news:_f****************@read1.cgocable.net:

I've been using AceHTML for years, and have always liked it, but the
latest version is full of bugs and crashes. Can anyone suggest a better
text editor with a similar feature list, and either free of very cheap?

I used Ace for a long time, too, and then I found HTML-Kit
<http://www.chami.com/html-kit> and I like it a lot better.

You should be an agent for them, Adrienne. It's a bit complicate for
the newbies, though.

Actually, for the OP, it should fit like an old glove, albeit, an old glove
with new enhancements.

--
Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
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