faded backround images

[bbxrider]

there is some property that i think is mostly used for images used as
backrounds that fades them, so you can get the idea of the image but not
have it
obscuring the text thats on it, its not trasparency
i have been going nuts trying to find it, i'm sure i've seen it
described somewhere on the w3c site but embarrassed to say can't find it
again
hopefully somebody knows this or maybe i'm going crazy

[Jim Moe]

bbxrider wrote:

there is some property that i think is mostly used for images used as
backrounds that fades them, so you can get the idea of the image but not
have it obscuring the text thats on it, its not trasparency

It's a CSS property called "opacity". And it is a non-standard property
available only in the Mozilla series of browsers.
Another way to get faded images or semitransparent overlays is with an
image editor.

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[David Dorward]

Jim Moe wrote:

It's a CSS property called "opacity". And it is a non-standard property
available only in the Mozilla series of browsers.

Its sort of standard now:

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/#transparency

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[bbxrider]

thanks for the replies, been dreading the image/graphics editors but guess
have to bite the bullit
sometime
bbx
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Jim Moe wrote:

It's a CSS property called "opacity". And it is a non-standard property available only in the Mozilla series of browsers.

Its sort of standard now:

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/#transparency

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[David Ross]

bbxrider wrote:

there is some property that i think is mostly used for images used as
backrounds that fades them, so you can get the idea of the image but not
have it
obscuring the text thats on it, its not trasparency
i have been going nuts trying to find it, i'm sure i've seen it
described somewhere on the w3c site but embarrassed to say can't find it
again
hopefully somebody knows this or maybe i'm going crazy

That kind of image is called a watermark. It's easy to create
using Word (once you find the right options via the Help). You can
either create a watermark image with a transparent background and
then set a background color, or else you can create the image with
the background color included. I prefer the latter so that the
background color is still presented when the user suppresses
images.

Be very careful about using colors that do not interfere with text
for those who might have visual handicaps. If your background
color provides appropriate contrast with your text, then a
watermark image that is almost the same color as the background
might be good. See <URL:http://www.oakparkfoundation.org/>, where
the background color is ivory and the image is a pale brown.

Note also that Mozilla has a bug that causes jerky scrolling with
background watermark images that have transparency. This is most
noticeable when the image is fixed in the window while the
foreground text scrolls, but it is also seen when the image scrolls
with the text (as in the page I cite in the above paragraph).

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[Grant Smith - eNVENT Technologies]

David Ross wrote:

Note also that Mozilla has a bug that causes jerky scrolling with
background watermark images that have transparency. This is most
noticeable when the image is fixed in the window while the
foreground text scrolls, but it is also seen when the image scrolls
with the text (as in the page I cite in the above paragraph).

Odd... FireFox on my machine doesn't seem to have that problem.

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[bbxrider]

thanks for your help david, the watermark sounds like a great option to get
this done

"David Ross" <no****@nowhere.not> wrote in message
news:42**************@nowhere.not...

bbxrider wrote:

there is some property that i think is mostly used for images used as
backrounds that fades them, so you can get the idea of the image but not
have it
obscuring the text thats on it, its not trasparency
i have been going nuts trying to find it, i'm sure i've seen it
described somewhere on the w3c site but embarrassed to say can't find it
again
hopefully somebody knows this or maybe i'm going crazy

That kind of image is called a watermark. It's easy to create
using Word (once you find the right options via the Help). You can
either create a watermark image with a transparent background and
then set a background color, or else you can create the image with
the background color included. I prefer the latter so that the
background color is still presented when the user suppresses
images.

Be very careful about using colors that do not interfere with text
for those who might have visual handicaps. If your background
color provides appropriate contrast with your text, then a
watermark image that is almost the same color as the background
might be good. See <URL:http://www.oakparkfoundation.org/>, where
the background color is ivory and the image is a pale brown.

Note also that Mozilla has a bug that causes jerky scrolling with
background watermark images that have transparency. This is most
noticeable when the image is fixed in the window while the
foreground text scrolls, but it is also seen when the image scrolls
with the text (as in the page I cite in the above paragraph).

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David E. Ross
<URL:http://www.rossde.com/>

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.

[David Ross]

Grant Smith - eNVENT Technologies wrote:

David Ross wrote:

Note also that Mozilla has a bug that causes jerky scrolling with
background watermark images that have transparency. This is most
noticeable when the image is fixed in the window while the
foreground text scrolls, but it is also seen when the image scrolls
with the text (as in the page I cite in the above paragraph).

Odd... FireFox on my machine doesn't seem to have that problem.

With a memory sufficiently large and a processor sufficiently fast,
you won't see the effect. Also, the problem is significantly
reduced (as I indicated) when the background image scrolls with the
foreground text. It goes away completely when the background image
has no transparency.

I recently upgraded my PC to double the memory, and I noticed that
the problem was reduced. However, before I sent my previous reply
in this thread, I actually checked the cited site. I still got
some minor jerkiness in vertical scrolling.

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David E. Ross
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I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.