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I used the W3C markup and validation service for http://www.wasmundbindery.com
and got this reply back. I don't understand what it means or how to fix it.

The DOCTYPE Declaration in your document was not recognized. This probably
means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the
Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a
default "fallback" Document Type Definition that closely resembles HTML 4.01
Transitional, but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected the
problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration.
This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser.
Line 1, column 0: no document type declaration; implying "<!DOCTYPE HTML
SYSTEM>"

Jul 23 '05 #1
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In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Marinemasters said:
I used the W3C markup and validation service for http://www.wasmundbindery.com
and got this reply back. I don't understand what it means or how to fix it.

The DOCTYPE Declaration in your document was not recognized.


<meta name="generator" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">

its not really worth the effort to help you. FP will just screw it up
again but stick this at the top of your documents:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

i strongly recommend dumping FP. if you want wysinwyg use an editor that
can do it without errors[1]:
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/
[1]except for a few proprietary attributes that you should be using css
for anyway.

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Jul 23 '05 #2

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Marinemasters wrote:
I used the W3C markup and validation service for http://www.wasmundbindery.com
and got this reply back. I don't understand what it means or how to fix it.

The DOCTYPE Declaration in your document was not recognized. ... This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!


That's because your page has no doctype
declaration. Insert
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN">
at the very top of your document.

And while I'm at it: Replace your Javascript menu
with something that everybody can use, replace
font tags with css and use css for someting really
useful. The styling of your scrollbars is only
visible to Internet Explorer users.
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Jul 23 '05 #3

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In our last episode,
<20***************************@mb-m25.aol.com>,
the lovely and talented Marinemasters
broadcast on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
I used the W3C markup and validation service for
http://www.wasmundbindery.com and got this reply back. I don't
understand what it means or how to fix it. The DOCTYPE Declaration in your document was not recognized.
Because the document does not have a DOCTYPE declaration. Put one
in, according to which DTD you want to validate against.
This probably
means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the
Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a
default "fallback" Document Type Definition that closely resembles HTML 4.01
Transitional, but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected the
problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration. This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser.
Line 1, column 0: no document type declaration; implying "<!DOCTYPE HTML
SYSTEM>"


This is a DOCTYPE declaration. It goes at the top of the document:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

The part in the quotes is the name of the DTD you think you are using
(or want to validate against). You can also have a second quoted part
giving a URI for where the DTD can be located. This is not usually
necessary for a very standard DTD, such as one of W3C DTDs.

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If it wasn't for muscle spasms, I wouldn't get any exercise at all.
Jul 23 '05 #4

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:49:56 -0600, Lars Eighner <ei*****@io.com>
declared in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:
You can also have a second quoted part
giving a URI for where the DTD can be located. This is not usually
necessary for a very standard DTD, such as one of W3C DTDs.


But in the case of the Transitional DTD (you'd be better off with
Strict, IMHO), not including the URL triggers quirks mode in most modern
browsers.

http://gutfeldt.ch/matthias/articles...tch/table.html
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/29/quirks_mode

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http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Jul 23 '05 #5

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In message <o5**************@usenetshit.info>, brucie
<sh**@usenetshit.info> writes
i strongly recommend dumping FP. if you want wysinwyg use an editor that
can do it without errors[1]:
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/ [1]except for a few proprietary attributes that you should be using css
for anyway.


I used a sixty day trial version of Home Page builder a while ago. I
liked it and almost purchased the full version. However I read that it
contains a few annoying bugs, and IBM appear to have stopped developing
it.

I used to like HotMetal as a WYSI(N)WYG editor, but that died sometime
ago.
--
Martin Jay
Jul 23 '05 #6

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don't be so lazy, I still use the old DOS edit command, or notepad.

I have 22, 000 files on my server that reflect the same.
..

"Martin Jay" <ma****@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
news:BO**************@aio.spam-free.org.uk...
In message <o5**************@usenetshit.info>, brucie
<sh**@usenetshit.info> writes
i strongly recommend dumping FP. if you want wysinwyg use an editor that
can do it without errors[1]:
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/

[1]except for a few proprietary attributes that you should be using css
for anyway.


I used a sixty day trial version of Home Page builder a while ago. I
liked it and almost purchased the full version. However I read that it
contains a few annoying bugs, and IBM appear to have stopped developing
it.

I used to like HotMetal as a WYSI(N)WYG editor, but that died sometime
ago.
--
Martin Jay

Jul 23 '05 #7

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SwampRat wrote:

"Martin Jay" wrote...

I used a sixty day trial version of Home Page builder a while ago.
I liked it and almost purchased the full version.

I used to like HotMetal as a WYSI(N)WYG editor, but that died
sometime ago.


don't be so lazy, I still use the old DOS edit command, or notepad.

I have 22, 000 files on my server that reflect the same. .


You lazy man! Real coders use edln!

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Jul 23 '05 #8

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:13:33 GMT, Brian
<us*****@julietremblay.com.invalid> wrote:
SwampRat wrote:

"Martin Jay" wrote...

I used a sixty day trial version of Home Page builder a while ago.
I liked it and almost purchased the full version.

I used to like HotMetal as a WYSI(N)WYG editor, but that died
sometime ago.


don't be so lazy, I still use the old DOS edit command, or notepad.

I have 22, 000 files on my server that reflect the same. .


You lazy man! Real coders use edln!


I use a very pointy magnet and manually manipulate the individual bits on
the disk. That's the man's way!
Jul 23 '05 #9

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Neal wrote:
Brian wrote:
SwampRat wrote:
"Martin Jay" wrote...

I used a sixty day trial version of Home Page builder a while
ago.

don't be so lazy, I still use the old DOS edit command, or
notepad.


You lazy man! Real coders use edln!


I use a very pointy magnet and manually manipulate the individual
bits on the disk. That's the man's way!


Disk?! Pshaw! Get punch cards, and forget that new-fangled magnetic
storage device. <grumble>Dang wet-behind-the-ears newbies with their
contraptions...</grumble>

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Jul 23 '05 #10

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In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Brian said:
You lazy man! Real coders use edln!
I use a very pointy magnet and manually manipulate the individual
bits on the disk. That's the man's way!
Disk?! Pshaw! Get punch cards, and forget that new-fangled magnetic
storage device. <grumble>Dang wet-behind-the-ears newbies with their
contraptions...</grumble>


ppffffttttt try hard wannabees

http://editor.usenetshit.info/

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Jul 23 '05 #11

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Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:op**************@news.individual.net:
don't be so lazy, I still use the old DOS edit command, or notepad.
You lazy man! Real coders use edln!
I use a very pointy magnet and manually manipulate the individual bits
on the disk. That's the man's way!


I was once involved with trying to recover data from a
mini-computer removable disk pack that had suffered
a head crash. The law firm involved hired a 'consultant'
to fly up from the USA. On at least one of the trips
he rented a Ferrari to get around in Vancouver. At various
times he went to another part of the law offices, out of
sight of the rest of us, and came back with head assemblies
from the disk drive that he had "modified". We were laughing
to ourselves, because they were covered in soot - not a good thing
for read/write heads that 'fly' over the magnetic disk surface
at a few thousandths of an inch. Sure enough, the drive crashed
again once his "modified" heads were installed. He never did
contribute to getting any data from the crashed disks.

If he got paid for his 'work' and expenses, including the
Ferrari, then I'd say his use of a pocket lighter to solve
'technical problems' is a more lucrative approach than using
a pointy stick ;-)

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Jul 23 '05 #12

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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:29:12 +1000, brucie <sh**@usenetshit.info> wrote:
ppffffttttt try hard wannabees

http://editor.usenetshit.info/


Now we're talking.

Jul 23 '05 #13

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