Vowel mutation in file name

[Werner Partner]

This is a part of my code (made by php):

<tr>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/021-StockholmScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/022-TurkuScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/023-TurkuScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/024-Satu.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" height =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/025-Satu.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" height =" 160"></td>
</tr>

I gave names to the pictures like "015-StockholmVärta",
"021-StockholSchären.jpg" or "022-TurkuSchären.jpg".

The files with file mutation like ä, ö, ü are not shown, so I changed
all ä to a, ö to o and so on.

(Of course I could write "022-TurkuSaaristo", but what about
"028-Högsar" or "096-Rääkkylä"?)

What is the reason, or is there a trick which I can use?

Thanks for help

Werner

[Harlan Messinger]

"Werner Partner" <ka********@sonoptikon.de> wrote in message
news:ut************@idefix.dom...

This is a part of my code (made by php):

<tr>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/021-StockholmScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/022-TurkuScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/023-TurkuScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/024-Satu.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" height =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/025-Satu.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" height =" 160"></td>
</tr>

I gave names to the pictures like "015-StockholmVärta",
"021-StockholSchären.jpg" or "022-TurkuSchären.jpg".

The files with file mutation like ä, ö, ü are not shown, so I changed
all ä to a, ö to o and so on.

(Of course I could write "022-TurkuSaaristo", but what about
"028-Högsar" or "096-Rääkkylä"?)

What is the reason, or is there a trick which I can use?

The characters a and ä are two different characters, and they are treated
that way. You could have four different files called aa.jpg, aä.jpg, äa.jpg,
and ää.jpg, all in the same directory. If a web page contains aa.jpg, do you
want the server to send äa.jpg, aä.jpg, or ää.jpg instead?

[Jukka K. Korpela]

Werner Partner <ka********@sonoptikon.de> wrote:

I gave names to the pictures like "015-StockholmVärta",

Don't. Rename them. Characters outside Ascii don't work in URLs, except
on special days for odd values of "work". Use "a" instead of "ä" in file
names.

--
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
Pages about Web authoring: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html

[Werner Partner]

Harlan Messinger schrieb:

"Werner Partner" <ka********@sonoptikon.de> wrote in message
news:ut************@idefix.dom...

This is a part of my code (made by php):

<tr>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/021-StockholmScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/022-TurkuScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/023-TurkuScharen.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/024-Satu.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" height =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="finnland-2004/01-anreise/025-Satu.jpg" alt=""
align="center" valign="middle" height =" 160"></td>
</tr>

I gave names to the pictures like "015-StockholmVärta",
"021-StockholSchären.jpg" or "022-TurkuSchären.jpg".

The files with file mutation like ä, ö, ü are not shown, so I changed
all ä to a, ö to o and so on.

(Of course I could write "022-TurkuSaaristo", but what about
"028-Högsar" or "096-Rääkkylä"?)

What is the reason, or is there a trick which I can use?

The characters a and ä are two different characters, and they are treated
that way. You could have four different files called aa.jpg, aä.jpg, äa.jpg,
and ää.jpg, all in the same directory. If a web page contains aa.jpg, do you
want the server to send äa.jpg, aä.jpg, or ää.jpg instead?

You understood me wrong.

The Server does not show aä.jpg or äa.jpg

I send you an example:

http://www.sonoptikon.de/test.php

The source is:

------------------------------------------------------------
<table border="0" style="border-collapse:collapse"<tr>

<td><img src="test/009-StockholmVärta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/010-StockholmVarta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/011-StockholmVärta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/012-StockholmVarta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/013-StockholmVärta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><img src="test/014-StockholmVarta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/015-StockholmVärta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/016-StockholmVarta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
<td><img src="test/017-StockholmVärta.jpg" alt="" align="center"
valign="middle" width =" 160"></td>
</tr>

</table>
------------------------------------------------------------

There are 9 Pictures, you see only the pictures with
"nnn-StockholmVarta.jpg". The Pictures "nnn-StockholmVärta.jpg" have a
place in the table, but they are not visible. Why?

regards

Werner

[Werner Partner]

Jukka K. Korpela schrieb:

Werner Partner <ka********@sonoptikon.de> wrote:

I gave names to the pictures like "015-StockholmVärta",

Don't. Rename them. Characters outside Ascii don't work in URLs, except
on special days for odd values of "work". Use "a" instead of "ä" in file
names.

There is an interesting effect.
I tried to demonstrate the effect, which happened on my local server
with Apache 2.0.49.

But this effect does not happen in the www. So what is the difference
between my Apache and the Net referring vowel mutation?

Neverthelesse it's standard not to use ä, ö, ü. And I will do it as you
say, but I want to understand what my Apache is doing.

By the way: Do you remember severeal years ago when American newspapers
tried to write long Finnish names as e.g. Haemaelaeinen.
Or think about Raeaekkylae (even worse would be "Raeaekkuelae")
Isn't it cruel?

regards

Werner