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Checking out the correctness of a site's coding

Could someone please tell me how I can check out the correctness of a site's
coding. I have brought about a website, checked it out with various
browsers. It seemed to be ok. Then I come across a browser that has problems
with my site, and I'd like to find out what I have done wrong. Apologies if
this question has been asked a million times before, however I do not have
this information and would be grateful if someone could provide me with an
answer.
Jul 23 '05 #1
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:52:29 +0200, "Adrian" <aa@aa.aa> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how I can check out the correctness of a site's
coding. I have brought about a website, checked it out with various


HTML Validator:
http://validator.w3.org/

CSS Validator:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Jul 23 '05 #2
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:52:29 +0200, "Adrian" <aa@aa.aa> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how I can check out the correctness of a site's
coding. I have brought about a website, checked it out with various
browsers. It seemed to be ok. Then I come across a browser that has problems
with my site, and I'd like to find out what I have done wrong. Apologies if
this question has been asked a million times before, however I do not have
this information and would be grateful if someone could provide me with an
answer.


"Correctness" is a very broad term. However, you may find my checklist
useful:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/checklist.html

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
Jul 23 '05 #3
Op Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:52:29 +0200, schreef Adrian <aa@aa.aa>:
Could someone please tell me how I can check out the correctness of a
site's
coding.
Aren't you the impatient one :-) In ciwas people gave you an answer to
this question minutes after you descided to start a new thread in this
newsgroup.
I have brought about a website, checked it out with various
browsers. It seemed to be ok. Then I come across a browser that has
problems
with my site, and I'd like to find out what I have done wrong.


Keep in mind that (once the mark-up and css validates) it is needs not to
be you who makes the mistakes. Any recent graphical browser will render
good code in an acceptable way. However, there are older browsers about
that cannot handle CSS very well. You can decide to ignore them (if you
can affort that) or you can try to hack your way around their faulty
rendering.
I think you read Dutch. If so, here is some reading for you:
<file://localhost/E:/PretLetters/html/webontwerp_overwegingen.html#nukken>

Google for keeping your CSS from NS4.x and/or IE<5 if that is what your
want.

Barbara

--
PretLetters <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/>
Zweefvliegen <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/vliegen.html>
Webontwerp <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html>
DTD <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/dtd/not_so_strict.dtd>
Jul 23 '05 #4
In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Adrian said:
I come across a browser that has problems with my site, and I'd like
to find out what I have done wrong.


how refreshing. i cant remember the last time someone thought to check
their markup rather than just blaming the browser.

HTML Validators:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://valet.webthing.com/page/
http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/
XML: http://www.stg.brown.edu/service/xmlvalid/

"HTML validation" is a good tool, but just a tool
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/validation.html
Beyond validation
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/beyond-validation

css checkers:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/csscheck/
http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/checkers

Web Accessibility Initiative (W3C)
http://www.w3.org/WAI/
Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/
Accessibility Toolbar
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/

website analysis
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

--
v o i c e s
Jul 23 '05 #5
In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Barbara de Zoete said:
I think you read Dutch. If so, here is some reading for you:
<file://localhost/E:/PretLetters/html/webontwerp_overwegingen.html#nukken>


how did you know that file is on his computer? YOU'RE A SPY! aahhhaaaaa!

--
v o i c e s
Jul 23 '05 #6
Op Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:31:24 +1000, schreef brucie <sh**@usenetshit.info>:
In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Barbara de Zoete said:
I think you read Dutch. If so, here is some reading for you:
<file://localhost/E:/PretLetters/stupid_stupid_stupid>


how did you know that file is on his computer? YOU'RE A SPY! aahhhaaaaa!


<div class="hit_oneself_on_the_head">
Darn, of all the stupid mistakes one can make :-/ Sorry for this.
</div>

It should read:
<http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp_overwegingen.html#nukken>
--
PretLetters <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/>
Zweefvliegen <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/vliegen.html>
Webontwerp <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html>
DTD <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/dtd/not_so_strict.dtd>
Jul 23 '05 #7
"Adrian" <aa@aa.aa> wrote in message
news:7b***************************@freeler.nl...
Could someone please tell me how I can check out the correctness of a site's coding. I have brought about a website, checked it out with various
browsers. It seemed to be ok. Then I come across a browser that has problems with my site, and I'd like to find out what I have done wrong. Apologies if this question has been asked a million times before, however I do not have
this information and would be grateful if someone could provide me with an
answer.

I am very grateful for the responses.
Thanks a lot.
Adrian.
Jul 23 '05 #8
Adrian wrote:
Could someone please tell me how I can check out the correctness of a site's
coding. I have brought about a website, checked it out with various
browsers. It seemed to be ok. Then I come across a browser that has problems
with my site, and I'd like to find out what I have done wrong. Apologies if
this question has been asked a million times before, however I do not have
this information and would be grateful if someone could provide me with an
answer.


Some discussion of validators and linters, with links to several of
them, is in my site:
http://webtips.dan.info/validators.html

--
== Dan ==
Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/
Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/
Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/
Jul 23 '05 #9
"Stephen Poley" <sb******************@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:i2********************************@4ax.com...
"Correctness" is a very broad term. However, you may find my checklist
useful:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/checklist.html


Your checklist is indeed very useful, but if one does not use javascript,
what should be used for scripting?
Jul 23 '05 #10
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:50:33 -0400, Howard Kaikow <ka****@standards.com>
wrote:
"Stephen Poley" <sb******************@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:i2********************************@4ax.com...
"Correctness" is a very broad term. However, you may find my checklist
useful:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/checklist.html


Your checklist is indeed very useful, but if one does not use javascript,
what should be used for scripting?


There's nothing inherently wrong with using Javascript. The point is to be
sure that you test the page without Javascrit enabled, making sure the
page is usable without it, even if not quite as you'd prefer.

I think most instances of Javascript I see are largely unnecessary, and
can be dispensed with. But there are plenty of worthwhile things that
Javascript can do, and if it's unavailable the page still can be used, but
perhaps with more mouse-work on the part of the user.
Jul 23 '05 #11
"Neal" <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:op**************@news.individual.net...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:50:33 -0400, Howard Kaikow <ka****@standards.com>
wrote:
"Stephen Poley" <sb******************@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:i2********************************@4ax.com...
"Correctness" is a very broad term. However, you may find my checklist
useful:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/checklist.html


Your checklist is indeed very useful, but if one does not use javascript, what should be used for scripting?


There's nothing inherently wrong with using Javascript. The point is to be
sure that you test the page without Javascrit enabled, making sure the
page is usable without it, even if not quite as you'd prefer.

I think most instances of Javascript I see are largely unnecessary, and
can be dispensed with. But there are plenty of worthwhile things that
Javascript can do, and if it's unavailable the page still can be used, but
perhaps with more mouse-work on the part of the user.


I feel the same way.

Indeed, I recently made use of JavaScript for the first time at my web site.
I tried to design so, there was an alternative for non-JavaScript enabled
systems, but at the time, I did not know how to disable JavaScript, so I
could not test.

If interested, try:

http://www.standards.com/index.html?Sorting
http://www.standards.com/index.html#Sorting
http://www.standards.com/index.html?NoSuchCritter
http://www.standards.com/index.html?HowardKaikow
Jul 23 '05 #12
Howard Kaikow said the following on 10/24/04 10:32:
Indeed, I recently made use of JavaScript for the first time at my web site.
I tried to design so, there was an alternative for non-JavaScript enabled
systems, but at the time, I did not know how to disable JavaScript, so I
could not test.


You can always use Delorie's Lynx Viewer for this (it also disables
other things like images and CSS, so it's good for testing more than one
thing):

http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

Or install Lynx itself:

http://lynx.browser.org/

--
Regards
Harrie
Jul 23 '05 #13

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