HTML beautifiers and table layout

[Meinolf Sander]

Do you have experiences using HTML beautifiers (like
1st Page Editor) with nested table structures (like in
<http://www.nexanto.de/m+e.html>)?

Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?
Thanks.

[Toby Inkster]

Meinolf Sander wrote:

Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

Indenting source code doesn't change the appearance in *any* browsers.

Except for some odd cases like <pre> and elements set to display like
<pre> using CSS, and sometimes within attribute values.

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[Lauri Raittila]

Toby Inkster wrote;

Meinolf Sander wrote:

Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

What you mean with cms?
Indenting source code doesn't change the appearance in *any* browsers.

That is not true.

if there is code like this

<table border>
<tr>
<td>
<img src=foo alt=foo>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

Changed to this:

<table border>
<tr>
<td>
<img src=foo alt=foo>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

White space should now be displayed, and IIRC, will be in many browsers.
(If browser has white space bug, there might be too much white space on
first one too trough.)

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru...tml#whitespace
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/appe...es-line-breaks
trough http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru....html#idx-HTTP

Notice that last one is for authors...

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[Meinolf Sander]

Lauri Raittila wrote:

Meinolf Sander wrote:

Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

What you mean with cms?

»centimetres«.

[Lauri Raittila]

Meinolf Sander wrote;

Lauri Raittila wrote:

Meinolf Sander wrote:
Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

What you mean with cms?

»centimetres«.

Might. One character width is maybe the most. One character can be many
centimeters... (though I only know a person using that big font - but
lots happen when using a data-projector...)

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[Harrie]

Meinolf Sander said the following on 10/17/04 11:23:

Do you have experiences using HTML beautifiers (like
1st Page Editor) with nested table structures (like in
<http://www.nexanto.de/m+e.html>)?
No, I don't, sorry.

I don't have much experience with CSS layout, but what I've learned in
this group (and in c.i.w.a.stylesheets) and read in online articles I
know that the site you posted could be easily done without tables (don't
use tables for layout). It looks like a classic 3 column design, or
maybe a 3 column with a footer row.

Here are some URLs to check out:

http://stuffucanuse.com/CSSnew/3col_layout_via_css.htm
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articles/layout_5_3/

... and one with a lot of URLs:

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts
Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

Don't you mean non-graphical browsers instead of non-text?

If so, you could see for yourself using Delories Lynx Viewer:

http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

If not, ignore my reply.

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Harrie