Expanding tables

[Tom Jordan]

Hi everyone,

If someone can point me in the right direction with this it would be v
appreciated!

I'm working on quite a large site, but I'm experiencing some problems
when it comes to displaying in Safari and Mozilla, I've tested Opera,
IE and Netscape and all seems ok.

It appears that my main layout table is shooting off wider than it
should do and blowing apart a bit, and one of the cells isn't keeping
it's correct bg colour.

The HTML is all W3C validated, although I'm not using full CSS for
layout.

You can see it at:
www.jb-media.com/yes-final/pages/events

Any help at all would be great!

Tom

[Mark Tranchant]

Tom Jordan wrote:

It appears that my main layout table is shooting off wider than it
should do and blowing apart a bit, and one of the cells isn't keeping
it's correct bg colour.
"Its", not "it's". Which cell?
The HTML is all W3C validated, although I'm not using full CSS for
layout. Any help at all would be great!

This would be a really easy layout to do in CSS. Rather than debugging
the tables, do it properly.

If you want visually impaired people or search engines to use your site,
I hope your current lipsum text-images will be replaced with real text.
This is the total page as Lynx (and thus search engines) will see it:

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[Tom Jordan]

Thanks for the constructive input Mark....

I've ripped it apart and started over in CSS, would you mind having a
quick look and giving me your opinion?

http://www.jb-media.com/yes-final/css/default.asp

Thanks again,

Tom

Mark Tranchant <ma**@tranchant.plus.com> wrote in message news:<41***********************@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>...

Tom Jordan wrote:

It appears that my main layout table is shooting off wider than it
should do and blowing apart a bit, and one of the cells isn't keeping
it's correct bg colour.

"Its", not "it's". Which cell?

The HTML is all W3C validated, although I'm not using full CSS for
layout.

Any help at all would be great!

This would be a really easy layout to do in CSS. Rather than debugging
the tables, do it properly.

If you want visually impaired people or search engines to use your site,
I hope your current lipsum text-images will be replaced with real text.
This is the total page as Lynx (and thus search engines) will see it:

Next Event
Sun, 15 August
Editors Page
Letters to the Editor
Calendar
Activities
Workshops
The Yes Group is a premier events organisation. Bringing you the best
contemporary speakers
in personal development, health, wealth and relationships.

Contents
Join us
Editorial Team
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[Mark Tranchant]

Tom Jordan wrote:

Thanks for the constructive input Mark....

I've ripped it apart and started over in CSS, would you mind having a
quick look and giving me your opinion?

http://www.jb-media.com/yes-final/css/default.asp

You have to admit that it makes the markup a lot easier and more logical.

If you must go with a fixed-width, image-based design, it looks good. A
few points:

1) How about some alternative text set to "display: none;" for text
browsers and search engines to parse?

2) Why HTML-4.0, when 4.01 is the standard and has been since Christmas
1999?

3) Why declare a charset of windows-1252? Wouldn't iso-8859-1 be more
appropriate?

4) Don't size fonts in px. It prevents IE from resizing them, and is
very hard to read on higher resolution displays. In gerenal, it's best
not to specify font sizes at all.

5) Provide a generic alternative to Arial, which may not be installed on
all machines: "font-family: Arial, sans-serif;". There's more out there
than just Windows (applies to point 3 as well).

6) Your menu should be a list with an appropriate header rather than
bold text and normal text with linebreaks. See my site (sig) for an
example, or read http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/.

7) I understand that this is probably just for development, but you will
split the CSS into a separate file when you're done, won't you?

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