I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
Is there a way to include more than one redirect in a single HTML file so
that the incoming link could choose the META to be used?
That would preferable to using a separate file for each META.
In effect, single META file would be a gatekeeper, allowing me to change the
internal structure of a web site, but maintain a constant external link.
Those links would be changed only in exceptional circumstances.
-- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site. 30  2363 
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Howard Kaikow wrote: I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
And do you also know <http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback> ?
--
Top-posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?
I am aware of the problem, but still do not know how to do it.
-- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Andreas Prilop" <nh******@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.44.0410051542400.3245-100000@s5b004... On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Howard Kaikow wrote:
I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
And do you also know <http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback> ?
--
Top-posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?
Howard Kaikow schreef: I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
Is there a way to include more than one redirect in a single HTML file so
that the incoming link could choose the META to be used?
I think it's possible by using a pop-up when the page is loading.
But most of the people hate it, that's why they have a pop-up killer
enabled.
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Andreas Prilop schreef: On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Howard Kaikow wrote:
I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
And do you also know <http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback> ?
Thanx for the link.
--
Edwin van der Vaart http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
Ayup, I'd not want a pop up.
All I really want is an "invisible" gatekeeper that redirects links, so even
if I change the structure of my web site, the links I gave to folkes, which
tend to propagate all over the web, will still work.
-- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Edwin van der Vaart" <pi************@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:W_x8d.138$fQ5.84@amstwist00... Howard Kaikow schreef: I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
Is there a way to include more than one redirect in a single HTML file
so that the incoming link could choose the META to be used?
I think it's possible by using a pop-up when the page is loading.
But most of the people hate it, that's why they have a pop-up killer
enabled.
--
Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Stan Brown wrote: And do you also know <http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback> ?
But in light of our other thread, I'm amused to see "a HTTP
Redirect" instead of "an HTTP redirect".
Not quite. It says
A "HTTP Redirect"
which is pronounced
A quote HTTP Redirect unquote
;-)
--
Top-posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?
Howard Kaikow wrote: Ayup, I'd not want a pop up.
All I really want is an "invisible" gatekeeper that redirects links,
so even if I change the structure of my web site, the links I gave
to folkes, which tend to propagate all over the web, will still work.
I see 2 possible solutions to your problem:
1. Server side redirect: Make a 404 document which uses PHP or ASP or
whatever to redirect page requests to the new locations.
2. Low tech solution: Keep old structure alive. Use new folder names for the
new structure and let the old folders where they are, just put duplicates of
the new files (with the new navigation) in there.
Anyway, when designing the new site structure make sure it is more
future-proof than your old one.
HTH
Markus
"Markus Ernst" <derernst@NO#SP#AMgmx.ch> wrote in message
news:41***********************@news.easynet.ch... 1. Server side redirect: Make a 404 document which uses PHP or ASP or
whatever to redirect page requests to the new locations.
AFAIK, my ISP doesn't allow us to do server side stuff.
2. Low tech solution: Keep old structure alive. Use new folder names for
the new structure and let the old folders where they are, just put duplicates
of the new files (with the new navigation) in there.
I'm already doing that for my home page.
I had to do it when I shanged from a shell account to a non-shell account,
my ISP insists on keeping the web spaces separate.
But having a separate structure means that I still need a separate file for
each META Refresh.
Anyway, when designing the new site structure make sure it is more
future-proof than your old one.
It's not possible to forecast needed directory structures.
On 2004-10-05 10:39:05 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> said: "Andreas Prilop" <nh******@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html: On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Howard Kaikow wrote:
I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
And do you also know <http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback> ?
It's a good page.
But in light of our other thread, I'm amused to see "a HTTP Redirect"
instead of "an HTTP redirect".
It should read "a HTTP", because the H is hard in "Hypertext". You
wouldn't say "_an_ Hypertext". The same applies to the hard G in "GIF"
("Graphics"), et cetera.
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:46:27 GMT, NeoAmsterdam
<%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote: On 2004-10-05 10:39:05 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm>
said: But in light of our other thread, I'm amused to see "a HTTP Redirect"
instead of "an HTTP redirect".
It should read "a HTTP", because the H is hard in "Hypertext". You
wouldn't say "_an_ Hypertext". The same applies to the hard G in "GIF"
("Graphics"), et cetera.
With GIF, regardless of pronunciation it begins with a consonsnt. So "a"
is fine no matter what.
HTTP is normally not pronounced "Hypertext Transfer Protocol", it's
normally pronounced "aitch-tee-tee-pee". Begins with a vowel.
What would you say - an FBI operative, or a FBI operative? Same problem.
If you read "Federal Bureau of Investigation", "a" is fine; if it's
"eff-bee-eye", "an" is correct. What do people really do? They read the
letters, not the full phrase.
Same with "An NRA spokesman" (enn-ar-ey) or "a USSR apologist"
(you-ess-ess-ar).
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:51:46 -0400, Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote: "a USSR apologist" (you-ess-ess-ar).
Scratch that one, it doesn't work. :(
Oh, I'm oh so happy I started this thread!
Glad to give folkes to stray off topic, especially on such a significant
matter!
Or should that be "an significant" as "significant" starts with "ess"?
Watta waist uf tyme!
-- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Neal" <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:op**************@news.individual.net... On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:51:46 -0400, Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> wrote:
"a USSR apologist" (you-ess-ess-ar).
Scratch that one, it doesn't work. :(
NeoAmsterdam <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote: On 2004-10-05 10:39:05 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> said:
"Andreas Prilop" <nh******@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html: On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Howard Kaikow wrote:
I know how to use META tag to achieve a redirect.
And do you also know <http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback> ?
It's a good page.
But in light of our other thread, I'm amused to see "a HTTP Redirect"
instead of "an HTTP redirect".
It should read "a HTTP", because the H is hard in "Hypertext". You
wouldn't say "_an_ Hypertext".
Wrong. Use of "a" or "an" is phonetically determined, based on the
sound that follows. It has nothing to do with what letter the
following word starts with or what it stands for. It's an
aitch-tee-tee-pee redirect. Conversely, it's *a* universe, not *an*
universe.
The same applies to the hard G in "GIF"
("Graphics"), et cetera.
Bad choice of example, since GIF is an acronym (an abbreviation
pronounced as though it were a word) and HTTP isn't, and also since
"GIF" and "graphical" both begin with the same sound, unlike the
situation with "HTTP" and "hypertext".
--
Harlan Messinger
Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
Veuillez ôter le premier point de mon adresse de courriel.
On 2004-10-05 12:51:46 -0400, Neal <ne*****@yahoo.com> said: On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:46:27 GMT, NeoAmsterdam
<%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote:
On 2004-10-05 10:39:05 -0400, Stan Brown <th************@fastmail.fm> said: But in light of our other thread, I'm amused to see "a HTTP Redirect"
instead of "an HTTP redirect".
It should read "a HTTP", because the H is hard in "Hypertext". You
wouldn't say "_an_ Hypertext". The same applies to the hard G in "GIF"
("Graphics"), et cetera.
With GIF, regardless of pronunciation it begins with a consonsnt. So
"a" is fine no matter what.
HTTP is normally not pronounced "Hypertext Transfer Protocol", it's
normally pronounced "aitch-tee-tee-pee". Begins with a vowel.
What would you say - an FBI operative, or a FBI operative? Same
problem. If you read "Federal Bureau of Investigation", "a" is fine; if
it's "eff-bee-eye", "an" is correct. What do people really do? They
read the letters, not the full phrase.
Same with "An NRA spokesman" (enn-ar-ey) or "a USSR apologist"
(you-ess-ess-ar).
Hmm... idioms... I see how that would be a problem. Someone call
William Safire! :-)
I was taught to use [a|an] based on the expansion of an acronym, so I'd
write it "a FBI", "a NRA", and "a USSR", and that "an" preceeds only
words begining with soft vowels or soft-h followed by soft vowels....
I'm so OT now, I'll just keep quiet. :)
NeoAmsterdam <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote:
I was taught to use [a|an] based on the expansion of an acronym, so I'd
write it "a FBI", "a NRA", and "a USSR", and that "an" preceeds only
words begining with soft vowels or soft-h followed by soft vowels....
Whoever taught you that was mistaken.
--
Harlan Messinger
Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
Veuillez ôter le premier point de mon adresse de courriel.
On 2004-10-05 22:16:35 -0400, Harlan Messinger
<hm*******************@comcast.net> said: NeoAmsterdam <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote:
I was taught to use [a|an] based on the expansion of an acronym, so I'd
write it "a FBI", "a NRA", and "a USSR", and that "an" preceeds only
words begining with soft vowels or soft-h followed by soft vowels....
Whoever taught you that was mistaken.
She is probably dead by now. She also insisted that _Try Our "Hot"
Dog's_ was alright.
What is the line... "Those who can't, teach"? :)
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:03:55 GMT, NeoAmsterdam
<%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote: She is probably dead by now. She also insisted that _Try Our "Hot"
Dog's_ was alright.
Oh dear.
What is the line... "Those who can't, teach"? :)
As a teacher by career, I take (mild) offense... This teacer was not
indicitave of the norm.
A few minutes ago, I learned that my ISP does allow server side scripts.
Now, to find the appropriate documentation for doing such scripts.
Are there any good books on this?
-- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Markus Ernst" <derernst@NO#SP#AMgmx.ch> wrote in message
news:41***********************@news.easynet.ch... Howard Kaikow wrote: Ayup, I'd not want a pop up.
All I really want is an "invisible" gatekeeper that redirects links,
so even if I change the structure of my web site, the links I gave
to folkes, which tend to propagate all over the web, will still work.
I see 2 possible solutions to your problem:
1. Server side redirect: Make a 404 document which uses PHP or ASP or
whatever to redirect page requests to the new locations.
2. Low tech solution: Keep old structure alive. Use new folder names for
the new structure and let the old folders where they are, just put duplicates
of the new files (with the new navigation) in there.
Anyway, when designing the new site structure make sure it is more
future-proof than your old one.
HTH
Markus
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Howard Kaikow wrote: Are there any good books on this?
I suggest to start with
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html>
especially
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html#Q2>
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html#Q3>
--
Top-posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?
Howard Kaikow schreef: A few minutes ago, I learned that my ISP does allow server side scripts.
Now, to find the appropriate documentation for doing such scripts.
What kind of server side scripting?
ASP, PHP or Perl?
--
Edwin van der Vaart http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
"Edwin van der Vaart" <pi************@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xlS8d.21$Aa7.11@amstwist00... Howard Kaikow schreef: A few minutes ago, I learned that my ISP does allow server side scripts.
Now, to find the appropriate documentation for doing such scripts.
What kind of server side scripting?
ASP, PHP or Perl?
I'll have to ask my ISP what is allowed.
I've just been told that my ISP runs PHP and SSI.
But they discourage server-side stuff.
-- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Edwin van der Vaart" <pi************@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xlS8d.21$Aa7.11@amstwist00... Howard Kaikow schreef: A few minutes ago, I learned that my ISP does allow server side scripts.
Now, to find the appropriate documentation for doing such scripts.
What kind of server side scripting?
ASP, PHP or Perl?
--
Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction
"NeoAmsterdam" <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote in message
news:2004100600035643658%E290A5@E290A5E290A5... On 2004-10-05 22:16:35 -0400, Harlan Messinger
<hm*******************@comcast.net> said: NeoAmsterdam <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote:
I was taught to use [a|an] based on the expansion of an acronym, so I'd
write it "a FBI", "a NRA", and "a USSR", and that "an" preceeds only
words begining with soft vowels or soft-h followed by soft vowels....
Whoever taught you that was mistaken.
She is probably dead by now. She also insisted that _Try Our "Hot"
Dog's_ was alright.
What is the line... "Those who can't, teach"? :)
I've been appalled by the writing skills of many teachers I've come across.
NeoAmsterdam <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote in
news:2004100512462816807%E290A5@E290A5E290A5: The same applies to the hard G in "GIF" ("Graphics"), et cetera.
Who says GIF has a hard G?
On 6 Oct 2004 17:21:04 GMT, Sam Hughes <hu****@rpi.edu> wrote: NeoAmsterdam <%E2%90%A5@%E2%90%A5.%E2%90%A5> wrote in
news:2004100512462816807%E290A5@E290A5E290A5:
The same applies to the hard G in "GIF" ("Graphics"), et cetera.
Who says GIF has a hard G?
Apparently, NeoAmsterdam does, Sam. ;)
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Neal wrote: On 6 Oct 2004 17:21:04 GMT, Sam Hughes <hu****@rpi.edu> wrote:
Who says GIF has a hard G?
Apparently, NeoAmsterdam does, Sam. ;)
That's odd. For some reason that I don't understand, the "official"
pronunciation seems to be with a soft g, like [jif]
Quite apart from the fact that, to me, [jif] is a plastic lemon,[1]
this seems quite illogical, since the G indeed stands for "Graphics".
cheers
[1] http://www.waitrose.com/food_drink/w...ia/0003110.asp
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:51:03 +0100, Alan J. Flavell <fl*****@ph.gla.ac.uk>
wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Neal wrote:
On 6 Oct 2004 17:21:04 GMT, Sam Hughes <hu****@rpi.edu> wrote:
> Who says GIF has a hard G?
Apparently, NeoAmsterdam does, Sam. ;)
That's odd. For some reason that I don't understand, the "official"
pronunciation seems to be with a soft g, like [jif]
Quite apart from the fact that, to me, [jif] is a plastic lemon,[1]
this seems quite illogical, since the G indeed stands for "Graphics".
cheers
[1]
http://www.waitrose.com/food_drink/w...ia/0003110.asp
Nah. Choosy mothers choose Jif. http://www.jif.com/
"Alan J. Flavell" <fl*****@ph.gla.ac.uk> wrote in
comp.infosystems. www.authoring.html:On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Neal wrote:
On 6 Oct 2004 17:21:04 GMT, Sam Hughes <hu****@rpi.edu> wrote:
> Who says GIF has a hard G?
Apparently, NeoAmsterdam does, Sam. ;)
That's odd. For some reason that I don't understand, the "official"
pronunciation seems to be with a soft g, like [jif]
Why "odd"? The letters[1] GIF, like the letters NATO, look like they
should be a word. But it's obviously not an English word, so it must
be foreign. And many people are familiar with "menu French" or "menu
Italian", so they see g followed by i or e as soft g.
Quite apart from the fact that, to me, [jif] is a plastic lemon,[1]
this seems quite illogical, since the G indeed stands for "Graphics".
But groups of initials are hardly every pronounced according to what
they stand for. (I almost wrote "never", but I'm sure there's some
counterexample. Can anyone think of one?)
[1] Note how carefully I avoid the word "acronym". :-)
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