Opening External Page in My Frameset

[Michael]

Hi,

I'm trying to load a page external to my website into my frame. I have
several links on my page that work fine but when connecting to the site
http://www.formulaboats.com
I am forced out of my frames and the above link is opened in the whole
window. I'm assuming the formualboats site has stopped people from
opening their pages in frames but my questions are
1. How did they do this? Is it an HTML thing or a javascript thing?
2. Is there a way around it so I can open their page in my frame.

Thanks very much!

Mike
ms*****@optonline.net

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven Michael:

Hi,

I'm trying to load a page external to my website into my frame. I
have several links on my page that work fine but when connecting to
the site http://www.formulaboats.com
What is your URL?
I am forced out of my frames and the above link is opened in the
whole window. I'm assuming the formualboats site has stopped people
from opening their pages in frames but my questions are 1. How did they do this? Is it an HTML thing or a javascript thing?
Could be.
2. Is there a way around it so I can open their page in my frame.
Apparently, they've discovered you were stealing their content and
took measures so you can't display their material in your site.

Way around? There may be, but (what's that old line?) then we'd have
to kill you.
Thanks very much!

Quite welcome.

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-bts
-Whose sites also won't work in your frame.

[Pierre Goiffon]

"Michael" <ms*****@localhost.localdomain> a écrit dans le message de
news:pa*********************************@localhost .localdomain

I'm trying to load a page external to my website into my frame. I have
several links on my page that work fine but when connecting to the
site http://www.formulaboats.com
I am forced out of my frames and the above link is opened in the whole
window.

See in the source :

if (parent.frames.length) { top.location=document.location;}It's JavaScript,
and it force to open the document in a whole window.

[kaeli]

In article <pa*********************************@localhost.loc aldomain>,
ms*****@localhost.localdomain enlightened us with...

but my questions are
1. How did they do this? Is it an HTML thing or a javascript thing?
Javascript.
2. Is there a way around it so I can open their page in my frame.

Yes.

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[Michael]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:48:14 -0400, kaeli wrote:
Could you tell me the way around it please?
Thank you,
Mike

2. Is there a way around it so I can open their page in my frame.

Yes.

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven Michael:

Could you tell me the way around it please?

Tell your visitors to disable JavaScript.

You still haven't answered the burning question: why do you want to
frame someone else's site?

What is *your* URL?

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[Michael]

> Tell your visitors to disable JavaScript.
Ahh, ok. Easy answer.

You still haven't answered the burning question: why do you want to
frame someone else's site?

"I" really don't. It's a client whose site I'm working on. I personally
find the frames obnoxious but the client likes them and I needed to have an
answer for them as to why the outside content wouldn't load in their
frame and if there was an option to make it work.
What is *your* URL?
It's just a test domain that I use when developing sites. The client
URL hasn't been made live yet.

Thanks very much for the help. I really appreciate it.

Mike

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven Michael:

"I" really don't. It's a client whose site I'm working on. I
Does this client also own the boating site?
personally find the frames obnoxious
Well, that is good. ;-)
but the client likes them and
If they don't own that site, are they aware of the possible
implications of copyright infringement? Trying to pass the content as
their own?
I needed to have an answer for them as to why the outside content
wouldn't load in their frame and if there was an option to make it
work.

See what happens when you tell them it is a copyright violation. <g>

I started adding the breakout code to my sites a few years ago when I
found one lodged in someone else's tiny frame. It essentially
destroyed the usability of my site: ability to bookmark, overflow of
my client's product graphics, etc. This boat site would look terrible
in a... 600px frame.

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[Michael]

>

Does this client also own the boating site? Nope.

See what happens when you tell them it is a copyright violation. <g>

Excellent idea.
I spoke with the client earlier and they swear their "other" html guy was
able to insert some code that allowed the outside content to be displayed
in their frame. I'm doubtful. In any case, I'm not really the HTML
programmer; I'm doing the database work on the backend. (perl/mysql).
They HTML guy I'm working with didn't know the answer to this question
which is how this got put in my lap.

Thanks again.

Mike

[kaeli]

In article <pa*********************************@localhost.loc aldomain>,
ms*****@localhost.localdomain enlightened us with...

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:48:14 -0400, kaeli wrote:
Could you tell me the way around it please?
Thank you,
Mike

2. Is there a way around it so I can open their page in my frame.

Yes.

Top-posting is discouraged in many groups.

There are many, many issues with framing someone else's site.

The answer is to put code in your site that disables or replaces the
javascript in theirs. It can be done (usually), but it's rude, obnoxious,
destroys the usability of the other site oftentimes, and can even be illegal
if the content is copywritten.
So, no, I'm not going to post the actual code for the solution. It also
relies on a known vulnerability in a specific, but very popular, browser.

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[Stephen Poley]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:34:16 GMT, Michael
<ms*****@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

Does this client also own the boating site?

Nope.

See what happens when you tell them it is a copyright violation. <g>

Excellent idea.

I spoke with the client earlier and they swear their "other" html guy was
able to insert some code that allowed the outside content to be displayed
in their frame.

Well, maybe he was. And when the site concerned found out, they put a
stop to it. Or maybe he just disabled Javascript for demonstration
purposes.

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