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Slide show: this should be fairly straightforward - a what language to use question

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Note: I tried cross-posting this message to several newsgoups,
including comp.lang.perl.misc, c.l.p.moderated,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi, comp.lang.javascript and
comp.lang.php. Nothing appeared on my news server, so I'm trying
again - this time posting a separate copy of the message to each
group.

I'm thinking this should be fairly easy to accomplish - a quick and
dirty ... what? ... script? program?

Background: I have a website - created using a html-generator
application called Dreamweaver. I have some limited knowledge of
html, and I sort of know what php does. I've read that Perl is cool,
powerful and free ... but beyond that ...???. I know next to nothing
about Javascript.

Here's the scenario:

o User brings up page with, say, 5 thumbnail images. The thumbnails
represent 5 sets of slides (jpegs), in, say, 5 separate subdirectories
living in my area of my website host's system. Each slide set
contains from 10 to 20 images, each with an associated caption. Jpegs
are named: s01.jpg, s02.jpg, s03.jpg, ... in each subdirectory (or
maybe they have unique names - but let's simplify). The slides are
different sizes, ranging from 400x300 to 1000x800 pixels

o Selecting a thumbnail (by clicking) from among the 5 takes the user
to a page where he sees the first slide and first caption associated
with that thumb. In additon to the jpeg and the caption, the screen
would contain some buttons that the user can click to go back a slide,
go forward a slide, or return home to thumbnail page. User can also
click on an image to enlarge it - meaning he would bring up the same
page, but it would show the file t01.jpg, which is, say, an un-cropped
version of s01.jpg. (Or perhaps, he would have specified at the home
page whether he wanted the high or the low bandwith version of the
slide show.)

o Subsequent clicking on the forward button brings up the subsequent
slides in sequence, returning to the first slide after the last is
displayed. Other than the different images and captions, the pages are
identical with regard to title, background, font, layout, etc.

I know how to accomplish this by the brute force method: For each of
the X number of images in a subdirectory, create X unique html
code-pages - slide1.htm, slide2.htm, etc. - that each reference a
particular image and particular caption, bringing up the next (or
previous) code-page in sequence when the user clicks to advance (or go
back). So for 5 sets of slides, each with 20 images, you'd have a
total of 100 unique .htm files. Actually, there would be 200 files,
given that there are a small and large version of each image.

Here's the more elegant approach:

One "routine" does everything. You ?pass? the name of the slide show
subdirectory to the routine as an ?argument?, and assign it to a
filename ?string variable? somehow. You might also pass the number of
slides in the subdirectory, unless there's a way for the routine to
determine what it is (like, by reading the number from another file,
or by "calling" some ?system function?, that reveals the number of
files in the directory.) The routine then loops through the list,
counting from 1 to X, and somehow opening the associated s0n.jpg file
(and associated caption text) to put up on the user's screen as he
clicks his way through the show.

This brings up a host (no pun intended) of basic questions:

o Where would this code or script or html actually run? On the site
host? It is downloaded to the user's machine? Is it intrepreted by
some entity - like the browser?

o What support is needed on the host side for something like this?
What about the user/client side? If it's just a browser he needs, will
any old browser do? (I do know that the host for my own website ...
catalog.com ... does support php. The support for it is free for the
sites they host.)

o Is this a question of "self-modifying" html? (I'm thinking that's
not possible.)

o What is the easiest way to get this done. Could you learn enough
php, perl, javascript, or whatever in, say, a day and a half, to write
this little routine together and get it working?
Thanks for your attention
-Al Gabis
Camp Springs, Maryland
www.SpiritualNeighborhood.org
Jul 23 '05 #1
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Al Davis <no******@no-one.net> wrote in
news:56********************************@4ax.com:
Note: I tried cross-posting this message to several newsgoups,
including comp.lang.perl.misc, c.l.p.moderated,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi, comp.lang.javascript and
comp.lang.php. Nothing appeared on my news server, so I'm trying
again - this time posting a separate copy of the message to each
group.
Multi-posting is the wrong thing to do. Stick with crossposting,
where appropriate.
One "routine" does everything. You ?pass? the name of the slide show
subdirectory to the routine as an ?argument?, and assign it to a
filename ?string variable? somehow. You might also pass the number of
slides in the subdirectory, unless there's a way for the routine to
determine what it is (like, by reading the number from another file,
or by "calling" some ?system function?, that reveals the number of
files in the directory.) The routine then loops through the list,
counting from 1 to X, and somehow opening the associated s0n.jpg file
(and associated caption text) to put up on the user's screen as he
clicks his way through the show. o Where would this code or script or html actually run?
On the host.
o What support is needed on the host side for something like this?
PHP
o What is the easiest way to get this done.
It's simple enought with PHP.
Could you learn enough php .... in, say, a day and a half, to write
this little routine together and get it working?
Perhaps you could, but we don't know. If you have PHP available
on your web host, it's worth knowing something about it, as you'll
likely find other uses than just this task.
Thanks for your attention
-Al Gabis
Camp Springs, Maryland
www.SpiritualNeighborhood.org


Please fix your signature. It should start with
a proper signature delimiter, which is two dashes
followed by a space, alone on the first line
of the signature block.

--
Dave Patton
Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
http://www.confluence.org/
My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
Jul 23 '05 #2

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Al Davis wrote:
Note: I tried cross-posting this message to several newsgoups,
including comp.lang.perl.misc, c.l.p.moderated,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi, comp.lang.javascript and
comp.lang.php.
And why, might one ask, did you feel you needed to post your query in so
many groups?

http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/crospost.html

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html#why1
Nothing appeared on my news server, so I'm trying again - this time
posting a separate copy of the message to each group.


Multiposting is unlikely to win you any friends.

--
Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/
Jul 23 '05 #3

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Hi Al,

You need to use a script running on your server to do this.

Try searching Google for "php slide show", for example (I think PHP is
easier to learn than most server scripting languages)

Here's a script I found after about a minute:
http://codewalkers.com/seecode/492.html

Does that help?

Phil

--
Philip Ronan
ph***********@virgin.net
(Please remove the "z"s if replying by email)
Jul 23 '05 #4

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:05:22 GMT, Dave Patton <sp**@trap.invalid>
wrote:
Please fix your signature. It should start with
a proper signature delimiter, which is two dashes
followed by a space, alone on the first line
of the signature block.

Huh - okay .. Will do. Thanks.

--
Al Gabis

Jul 23 '05 #5

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Hey Brian,

Just a comment. You usenet denizens seem to be a pretty fussy group
with regard to "netiquette". I'm wondering if there's anything at all
that would "win friends" with most of the regulars on these
discussions. I believe the content of my post explains pretty well why
I cross-posted. Don't programmers specialize in fairly narrow fields?
Would someone who knows javascript necessarily know perl, or php at
all? The generality of my question - not even knowing where to start
with this little program of mine - not even what language to use -
seemed to call for a general post to at least 3 or 4 places. (Just
browsing through the list, I actually saw something like 2 dozen
groups where the question might have been logically asked) I was half
expecting that I might get different answers from respondents in
different groups. Since my original post didn't get through anyway,
it's a moot point. But actually, I'm thinking now that it was
probably *better* to do multiple, separate postings. That way people
who responded in one group wouldn't have their response posted in
other places. I probably should have simply kept quiet about having
done the multiple posts, but I wanted to clear about just how hazy my
question - and my knowledge - was.

In any case. I do understand the point about courtesy on the net, but
I'm a "real-world" guy. There is a hell-of-a-lot of rudeness and
inconsiderate behavior that one must deal with in the neighborhoods
and communities where we all live (see my website and on-line book for
details.) One would hope that usenet folks, having superior
intelligence and education, one would suppose, would be a bit less
formal and more relaxed about their "rules and regulations". Not so
lawyer-like, if you know what I mean. Here's a quote from the Tao Te
Ching that I think applies:

Withou the Tao,
Kindness and compassion
are replaced by law and justice;
Faith and trust are supplanted
by ritual and ceremony

(From "The New Lao Tzu, A Contemporary Tao Te Ching", Rag Grigg,
translator).

regards ... Al
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:10:55 -0400, Brian
<us*****@julietremblay.com.invalid> wrote:
Al Davis wrote:
Note: I tried cross-posting this message to several newsgoups,
including comp.lang.perl.misc, c.l.p.moderated,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi, comp.lang.javascript and
comp.lang.php.


And why, might one ask, did you feel you needed to post your query in so
many groups?

http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/crospost.html

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html#why1
Nothing appeared on my news server, so I'm trying again - this time
posting a separate copy of the message to each group.


Multiposting is unlikely to win you any friends.

--
Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/


Jul 23 '05 #6

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Thanks greatly.
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:18:17 +0100, Philip Ronan
<ph***********@virgin.net> wrote:
Hi Al,

You need to use a script running on your server to do this.

Try searching Google for "php slide show", for example (I think PHP is
easier to learn than most server scripting languages)

Here's a script I found after about a minute:
http://codewalkers.com/seecode/492.html

Does that help?

Phil

--
Philip Ronan
ph***********@virgin.net
(Please remove the "z"s if replying by email)


--
Al Gabis
Camp Sprnigs, Maryland
www.SpiritualNeighborhood.org

Jul 23 '05 #7

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:12:51 GMT, Al Davis <no******@no-one.net> wrote:
There is a hell-of-a-lot of rudeness and
inconsiderate behavior that one must deal with in the neighborhoods
and communities where we all live (see my website and on-line book for
details.)
Same in the real world.
One would hope that usenet folks, having superior
intelligence and education, one would suppose, would be a bit less
formal and more relaxed about their "rules and regulations".
It is the rigor that produces quality discussion. These aren't arbitrary
riles, they are good practice in getting the best discussion.
Not so
lawyer-like, if you know what I mean. Here's a quote from the Tao Te
Ching that I think applies:

Withou the Tao,
Kindness and compassion
are replaced by law and justice;
Faith and trust are supplanted
by ritual and ceremony

(From "The New Lao Tzu, A Contemporary Tao Te Ching", Rag Grigg,
translator).


But look at chapter 8. Why not be like water and flow to places men
despise, in order to be closer in nature to the Tao? In this valey,
flowing like water means going along with the standard mode of operation.
Pushing your banks, wanting it another way, this is not the true Way.

I say the Tao is quite present here. You fail to see it. Not that beating
you over it is in accordance with the Tao either (27).
Jul 23 '05 #8

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Al Davis wrote:
Hey Brian,

You usenet denizens seem to be a pretty fussy group
with regard to "netiquette".


Indeed. For example, we dislike top-posters. You're on the fast track
to the killfiles.

--
Brian (remove ".invalid" to email me)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/
Jul 23 '05 #9

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