Need a Layer to Obscure my app ;-)

[Mel]

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so that
users can not click on any of my links.

is this possible ?

example would be greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-)

[Els]

Mel wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so that
users can not click on any of my links.

is this possible ?

example would be greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-)

Just guessing - haven't tried it out:
at the end of your page's code:
<div id="layer">&nbsp;</div>

and in CSS:
div#layer{
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:0;
height:[whatever height your page is]
background:transparent;
}

I don't think it will have the effect you're after though.
If it's a web page, people will
a) get pissed off cause they can't click the links
b) if they're determined, they can still dive into your code and find
the hrefs.

Why don't you just create an image if you only want to show the
picture and not the real thing?

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[Spartanicus]

"Mel" <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so that
users can not click on any of my links.

Why?

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Spartanicus

[Harlan Messinger]

Mel wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so that
users can not click on any of my links.

is this possible ?

Trying to trick people into thinking their mice aren't working?

[Mel]

"Spartanicus" <in*****@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Mel" <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so thatusers can not click on any of my links.

Why?

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Spartanicus

come on dooooods !
i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu
and therefore its for viewing only and i dont what the users to click on
them and go somewhere else.

with all that said and done,
is it possible ?

[Barbara de Zoete]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:08:42 -0400, Mel <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu
and therefore its for viewing only and i dont what the users to click on
them and go somewhere else.

with all that said and done,
is it possible ?

Easy. Don't make them links.
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[Mel]

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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Mel wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so that users can not click on any of my links.

is this possible ?

example would be greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-)

Just guessing - haven't tried it out:
at the end of your page's code:
<div id="layer">&nbsp;</div>

and in CSS:
div#layer{
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:0;
height:[whatever height your page is]
background:transparent;
}

I don't think it will have the effect you're after though.
If it's a web page, people will
a) get pissed off cause they can't click the links
b) if they're determined, they can still dive into your code and find
the hrefs.

Why don't you just create an image if you only want to show the
picture and not the real thing?

--
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Thunder - Dirty Love

somehow when the background is anything other than transparent, users can
not click on the links, but when its transparent, you can still click on the
links.

any help is appreciated

[Mel]

"Barbara de Zoete" <b_********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opsrcfi4snx5vgts@zoete_b...

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:08:42 -0400, Mel <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu and therefore its for viewing only and i dont what the users to click on
them and go somewhere else.

with all that said and done,
is it possible ?

Easy. Don't make them links.
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I DO NOT want to make changes to already working test procedures, just for
the sake of help and I do not want to add complicated logic for it either. I
simply thought that i can use the same procedure and just throw a layer on
top of it in my help popup.

first suggestion worked for any background other than transparent, but when
background is transparent you can still click on the links

can you help ?

[Els]

Mel wrote:

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:sk****************************@40tude.net...

Mel wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so that users can not click on any of my links.

is this possible ?

example would be greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-)

Just guessing - haven't tried it out:
at the end of your page's code:
<div id="layer">&nbsp;</div>

and in CSS:
div#layer{
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:0;
height:[whatever height your page is]
background:transparent;
}

I don't think it will have the effect you're after though.
If it's a web page, people will
a) get pissed off cause they can't click the links
b) if they're determined, they can still dive into your code and find
the hrefs.

Why don't you just create an image if you only want to show the
picture and not the real thing?

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Thunder - Dirty Love

somehow when the background is anything other than transparent, users can
not click on the links, but when its transparent, you can still click on the
links.

any help is appreciated

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

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[Mel]

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:1y*******************************@40tude.net. ..

Mel wrote:

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:sk****************************@40tude.net...

Mel wrote:

i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, so

that

users can not click on any of my links.

is this possible ?

example would be greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-)

Just guessing - haven't tried it out:
at the end of your page's code:
<div id="layer">&nbsp;</div>

and in CSS:
div#layer{
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:0;
height:[whatever height your page is]
background:transparent;
}

I don't think it will have the effect you're after though.
If it's a web page, people will
a) get pissed off cause they can't click the links
b) if they're determined, they can still dive into your code and find
the hrefs.

Why don't you just create an image if you only want to show the
picture and not the real thing?

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Thunder - Dirty Love

somehow when the background is anything other than transparent, users can not click on the links, but when its transparent, you can still click on the links.

any help is appreciated

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: -
norahjones_comeawaywithme_120.nsv&uid=&sessid=&sur facePoint=us.winamp

thanks a lot. you saved ma' day :-)

[Spartanicus]

"Mel" <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

>i have a screen with links etc. whay i would like to do is to create a
>layer, the same size as my page, place it right on top of my page, sothat >users can not click on any of my links.
Why?

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Spartanicus

Please configure your news client to remove sigs, or do it manually.
i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu
and therefore its for viewing only

You are not making any sense, providing a url may help.

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[Harlan Messinger]

Spartanicus wrote:

"Mel" <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu
and therefore its for viewing only

You are not making any sense, providing a url may help.

He's got a Help screen that describes the use of some component of some
web page, and he's copied the actual HTML from that component to the
Help page to create an illustration. But that HTML is just as functional
when added to the Help page as it is on the original page, and he
doesn't want it to be functional--he just wants an illustration.

He *should* make a screen capture and display it instead.

[Harlan Messinger]

Mel wrote:

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

thanks a lot. you saved ma' day :-)

Why is that easier than just making a screen capture and displaying it
as an image *instead of* copying the HTML and then having to cover it
with a transparent layer?

[Barbara de Zoete]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:28:16 -0400, Harlan Messinger
<hm*******************@comcast.net> wrote:

Spartanicus wrote:

"Mel" <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu
and therefore its for viewing only

You are not making any sense, providing a url may help.

He's got a Help screen that describes the use of some component of some web
page, and he's copied the actual HTML from that component to the Help page to
create an illustration. But that HTML is just as functional when added to the
Help page as it is on the original page, and he doesn't want it to be
functional--he just wants an illustration.

He *should* make a screen capture and display it instead.

Is that wise? The page might show up in my browser quite differently than it did
in his as he made his screen capture, adding to the confusing.

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[Els]

Harlan Messinger wrote:

Mel wrote:

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

thanks a lot. you saved ma' day :-)

Why is that easier than just making a screen capture and displaying it
as an image *instead of* copying the HTML and then having to cover it
with a transparent layer?

Maybe some people want to enlarge the font?

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[Barbara de Zoete]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:25:51 -0400, Mel <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

"Barbara de Zoete" <b_********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:08:42 -0400, Mel <me**********@hp.com> wrote:

i have some internet widgets that i display on the screen as my "help" menu
and therefore its for viewing only and i dont what the users to click on
them and go somewhere else.

with all that said and done,
is it possible ?

Easy. Don't make them links.
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Please delete the sig(natures) of the messages you reply to if your newsclient
doesn't do that for you.
I DO NOT
No need to shout, thank you very much.
want
to make changes
How am I suppossed to know what you want don't want? Mind reading? I gave you a
possible solution as others did (like the print screen image; good solution too).
can you help ?

I did. If you don't consider it to be helpful, don't blame me.
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[Harlan Messinger]

Els wrote:

Harlan Messinger wrote:

Mel wrote:

"Els" <el*********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

thanks a lot. you saved ma' day :-)

Why is that easier than just making a screen capture and displaying it
as an image *instead of* copying the HTML and then having to cover it
with a transparent layer?

Maybe some people want to enlarge the font?

Hmm, there is that. Although, technically the situation is no different
from a Help page that explains how to use a non-HTML application, or the
controls on some device, where the illustrations would necessarily be
images. So it may be helpful to exploit the fact that the thing being
explained is an HTML presentation instead of something else, but I still
wouldn't say it's strictly necessary.

[Harlan Messinger]

Barbara de Zoete wrote:

On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:28:16 -0400, Harlan Messinger
<hm*******************@comcast.net> wrote:

He *should* make a screen capture and display it instead.

Is that wise? The page might show up in my browser quite differently
than it did in his as he made his screen capture, adding to the confusing.

I thought Els's point was interesting, but yours is even more
compelling. I'll have to think about that some more.

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Barbara de Zoete wrote:

Is that wise? The page might show up in my browser quite differently
than it did in his as he made his screen capture, adding to the
confusing.

Yes, I was sent a screen capture which I was told proved that the page
was a perfectly adequate size. I viewed it and it was tiny.

On further discussion I found that she was working at 65dpi, and I was
viewing it at 135dpi.

[David Dorward]

Mel wrote:

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

<snip quoted sig> Please stop quoting sigs.
thanks a lot. you saved ma' day :-)

Not everybody uses a pointing device. You'll probably find that keyboard
users will still get at the controls.

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[Els]

David Dorward wrote:

Mel wrote:

Use a transparent gif as background of the div. (small one, repeated)

<snip quoted sig> Please stop quoting sigs.

thanks a lot. you saved ma' day :-)

Not everybody uses a pointing device. You'll probably find that keyboard
users will still get at the controls.

Very true - hadn't thought of that.
Must be /very/ confusing for people (like myself) who mix mouse and
keyboard :S

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